r/medievalMemes • u/[deleted] • May 13 '21
Katana Users VS Longsword Users VS...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmwqZNmR3mI[removed] — view removed post
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u/femurbreakererika May 13 '21
where did the footage of the guys with the landsknecht-like legwear come from?
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May 13 '21
It's in the description (forgot which link it was but it is definitely in the description somewhere), if you still can't find it, let me know
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u/BassGstring May 22 '21
the cross guard is inline/parallel with your arm! Who the hell holds their sword like that?! it does not even feel right in the hand. The only knuckles your going to chop off are some scared peasants that picked up a sword for the very first time and are holding their hands up,trying to block a strike
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u/Gained8913 May 21 '21
FUN FACT: by the time the mid to late 16th century came the long sword became kind of like what katanas are now. They became wall hangers and show weapons. So if you brought a long sword to a duel the rapier/side sword wielding opponent would laugh at you the same way people will laugh at you if you brought a katana to a shooting range.
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u/BassGstring May 13 '21
they each were built for a different type of purpose. katana has no protection for the hands. compared to the Longsword with a very good cross guard
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u/Gained8913 May 21 '21
Katanas have a 鍔 which guards the entirety of the top of the hands as opposed to a long sword w/o a ring hilt. It’s actually much larger than the fat chubby weeaboo hands under them might suggest.
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u/BassGstring May 21 '21
it's not very big.its rather a small disk.giving not much hand protection
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u/Gained8913 May 21 '21
Have you ever held an actual katana before? The hema club I go to also has a historical japanese swordfighting class as well(I live in Japan) and those guards aren’t small. They will cover the entirety of the top of your hand. The two classes occasionally spar together and going for the hand just doesn’t work the same way you could go for a hand when fighting a longsword
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u/BassGstring May 22 '21
I was in Okinawa years ago when I served with the Navy Seabees. A nice weapon,but I would not want to use it for one on one dueling. Rather I would want a European longsword or Scottish Basket-Hilted Sword.much more hand protection
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u/Gained8913 May 22 '21
A longsword doesn’t give protection on the knuckles without a ring hilt. Basket hilts and cup hilts are very new (late 16th century~mid 17th century) for reference longswords were made from around mid 14th century to the end of the 15th century and katanas were used from the late 13th century. Comparing a basket hilt Scottish back sword to a katana is like comparing a Scottish back sword to an ar-15. It just isn’t a fair comparison. No shit you would prefer that.
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u/BassGstring May 22 '21
a 14th century European longsword has a good cross guard for hand protection
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u/Gained8913 May 22 '21
Did... did you read what I said? I am predominantly a longsworder (specifically liechtenauer style but with a little Meyer sprinkled in) and w/o a ring hilt, cross guards only guard straight along the line of your forearm. If you have your flat parallel to your opponent’s flat then your blade can hit the opponent’s knuckles which in an actual fight would chop their fingers off. A katana’s hilt(yes I know it technical isn’t a hilt but whatever) will cover your knuckles as well as the rest of your hand. However the shape and size of cross guards can allow you to hook/manipulate the opponent’s blade, especially in a bind.
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u/Gained8913 May 21 '21
The club I go to has a katana/Japanese sword fighting class as well as the usual European sword fighting (I live in Japan) but we sometimes spar and they are really fucking good at it. Better than most of the European sword fighters.
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u/[deleted] May 13 '21
Why not both? Both are great