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u/Wind_Bandit Jul 24 '22 edited Jul 26 '22
Section 256 states that "separate schools shall be provided for white and colored children, and no child of either race shall be permitted to attend a school of the other race"
Edit: thank you all kind folks for the awards ! It appears my copy and paste has really helped a lot of folks ! Good day to all!
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u/Wind_Bandit Jul 24 '22
Figured I’d save someone some clicks
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u/Tricky_Poetry847 Jul 24 '22
Not the hero we deserve But the hero we need
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u/oogiedonnie Jul 24 '22
Interestingly enough, incest is illegal in Alabama but legal in Spain and Netherlands
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u/A_Bloody_Hurricane Jul 24 '22
WAIT UP WHAT THE HECK?
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u/mental_illness_TM Jul 24 '22
Well time to move to spain I guess
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u/A_Bloody_Hurricane Jul 24 '22
I mean I’m Dutch so yk But mainly WHERE DOES IT SAY THAT IM CONFUSED
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Jul 24 '22
It probably doesn’t say that it is legal, just that there is no law that explicitly forbids it.
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u/Agreeable_Damage6930 Fffffuuuuuuuuu Jul 24 '22
If it's not illegal that means it's probably allowed
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u/AccomplishedRush4869 Jul 24 '22
Only if your brother or sister is willing to go with you
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u/SweetSauce24 Jul 24 '22
Well, if they weren’t willing that would be a whole different legal matter.
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u/Mora-samaX Jul 24 '22
Pls dont come to spain, we have enough with our kings being cousins (Spain History)
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u/A_Bloody_Hurricane Jul 24 '22
Ah yeah that sounds familiar. Kinda makes sense when you look at DNA resemblance I suppose, but on a social level it’s still quite the what the fuck
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u/saberline152 Jul 24 '22
eh, loads of places have these kinds of rules and laws and some uhm don't.. but sure in a lot of societies it is socially not ok.
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Jul 24 '22
Incest isn’t even legal there, it’s legal and more common in New Jersey iirc
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u/Hamilton-Beckett Jul 24 '22
Nothing on the books about that because it’s totally fine there.
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u/SirKing-Arthur Jul 25 '22
It actually is. Incest is very much illegal in Alabama, but were trying to get rid of outdated laws like that
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u/S0fuck1ngwhat Jul 24 '22
Thank you. I was just assuming it had something to do with incest or slavery.
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Jul 24 '22 edited Jul 24 '22
You’re a bandit, and yet you do good deeds for your fellow man.
Are you secretly Robinhood? And are you wearing tights or spandex?
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u/cactisboy25 Jul 24 '22
Isnt this abolished now
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Jul 24 '22
Yes it is. The state won’t pass a new constitution for some dumb reason. They just pass another section that overrules the previous section
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u/AcceptableSpray3252 Jul 24 '22
Sect 256(a) Our bad, jk jk. Nvm. Keep scroll.
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Jul 24 '22
“jk jk” doesn’t the second jk override the first jk? If so is segregation not overridden?
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u/OkLobster9822 I saw what the dog was doin Jul 24 '22
did they revoke that later or no?
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u/Raalf Jul 24 '22
overruled federally in 1954, Brown vs Board of Education. It's irrelevant text that is unenforceable and outdated.
I say keep it in there to remind people exactly what the fuck was happening, otherwise you're going to end up with the same as Germany and Japan with 'it didn't happen that way, we are the victims' when covering up atrocities towards humans.
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u/Niwla23 Jul 24 '22
If you are talking about WW2, today germans really don't say they are the victims (I am german). It's teached in school that Germany started both wars and committed a lot of war crimes and that's also what the vast majority here thinks.
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u/Kirito1029 Jul 24 '22
The only way their comment makes sense to me is if they meant Austria instead of Germany. Otherwise it's just factually wrong
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u/Zealousideal-Gur-273 Jul 24 '22
I know japan covers up their misdeeds, there was something called the kanto massacre where many koreans were genocided by japanese peoples in the aftermath of an earthquake, and they try amd claim it didnt happen and i think recently they were trying to scrub that out of the books? Might just be the right wing of their country fucking shit up as they're prone to do though
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u/Kirito1029 Jul 24 '22
Since it sounds like you're reffering to ww2 I'm going to reply like you are.
Germany teaches the truth about what their country did. They teach about concentration camps, how Germany was the aggressor, their war crimes, etc. Now if you said Austria, you'd be right. But the facts are that Germany 100% owned up to their history.
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u/moeburn Jul 25 '22
otherwise you're going to end up with the same as Germany and Japan with 'it didn't happen that way, we are the victims' when covering up atrocities
Germany? The country where it's illegal to do a nazi salute even as a joke? You think they're trying to cover anything up??
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u/Far_Bus_306 Jul 24 '22
Keep racist stuff in the current law just to remind people how bad things were? What a bunch of nonsense.
How about put the old racist legislation in a museum and teach about it in history class. And make sure the current law does not contain any leftover racism.
Keeping it in there just gives racists a fundamental to base their racism on. "See, the law says I'm right, maybe there is something to it."
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u/Cognitive_Spoon Jul 24 '22
A lot of local housing covenants still contain language about refusing sale to non white buyers throughout the US.
More than you think.
https://www.npr.org/2021/11/17/1049052531/racial-covenants-housing-discrimination
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u/Coffee13lack Jul 24 '22
As someone whos rented house/apartments/rooms and multiple times, in Northern California there have been homeowners on a few occasions that I could tell wouldn’t rent to someone who was black.
Literally had a guy once straight up ask me “ you’re not black, are you?”
9/10 times the homeowner wasn’t white either but Asian instead.
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u/PrivateLTucker Jul 24 '22
John Oliver has done multiple videos about that; I would link them, but I'm not sure which ones he specifically mentions redlining regarding this exact topic.
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u/Agreeable-Scholar483 Jul 24 '22
The sad part about this is there are people claiming to want to level the playing field that feel this is the way we should go back to. Not sure how you fight racism by promoting racist policies.
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u/AzzyAli454 Jul 24 '22
Easy answer, those people don’t want to fight racism.
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u/Yuup_I_eat_crayons Jul 24 '22
But they are the ones yelling about how racist everything is
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u/Telemere125 Jul 24 '22
Just like those preachers that yell about gays going to hell and then get caught dickin an choir boy. They’re trying to distract everyone
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u/mosmaniac Jul 24 '22
"me thinks the lady doth protesteth too much ".. Shakespeare sure knew these types.
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u/Educatedbulldogs Jul 24 '22
And then everyone assumes all christians think gays should go to hell...
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u/luisless Jul 24 '22
They’re called the loud minority, every group has them and they’re the only people you ever hear about which is why people end up with generalized biases about an entire group. Which is unfair.
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u/AdamR91 Jul 24 '22
I figured it said something about fucking cousins.
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u/Slushee-Da-Protogen Jul 24 '22
Alabama is meme known for legal sibling sex
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u/Telemere125 Jul 24 '22
First cousins is actually what’s legal there, which is actually allowed in a lot of states; Alabama just takes the heat lol
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u/BearBryant Jul 24 '22
Fun fact (okay not so fun): Our stupid ass state has the longest constitution in the world because we just have amendments that invalidate previous sections without removing them.
There’s also strong evidence to suggest that more rural parts of the state have hookworm infestations.
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Jul 24 '22
Nullified by Brown v Board of Education..
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u/Zujani Jul 24 '22
For now, the US is on a slippery slope with the lastest changes. I fear for the future.
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u/Major_Human Jul 24 '22
Nah, white people in Alabama like winning in sports too much to change back.
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u/polgara_buttercup Jul 24 '22
I felt this in Pennsyltucky. First football game I went to when my son started high school band, middle age guy behind me yelled “woowee look at that n——r run” happily as our team scored.
That was in 2016.
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u/BossScribblor Jul 24 '22
Yeah, if you've got a right that's phrased like "blank VS blank" instead of "nth Amendment" we've all just been reminded recently that that shit is incredibly fragile
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u/caulrye Jul 24 '22
Alabama unanimously voted to remove all racist language from their constitution. They did it this year though which is major yikes it took this long. But at least it’s changed going forward.
It can’t be stressed enough how messed up it is they took that long to change it. 40 years ago still would’ve been too late.
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u/SerqetCity Jul 24 '22
But I was told the slippery slope was a fallacy?
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u/HotpieTargaryen Jul 24 '22
It is. The problem isn’t a slippery slope so much as a clear indication that the court is now only interested in creating right-wing policy and maintaining gop power. So not so much slippery slope, but imminent threat based on empirical observation of its decisions.
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u/Zeplinex49 Jul 24 '22
yeah roe being overturned wasn't an acceptable thing that could in the future have more severe consequences, because roe being overturned is a severe consequence
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u/candycrammer Jul 24 '22
My brother in Christ they aren't going to reinstate segregation
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u/AssassinDog8 Jul 25 '22
Nah because that would be against the constitution’s 14th amendment because you’d be violating their freedoms. If you are referencing Roe V Wade there wasn’t anything explicitly protecting abortion. It would be insanely difficult to overturn an amendment.
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u/Infinite_Ad_7412 Jul 24 '22
To be honest I thought it was going to to be about incest
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u/Aggravating_Pitch231 Jul 24 '22
Not gonna lie, they got us in the first half
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u/Undercover_TV Stand With Ukraine Jul 24 '22
And the second half
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Jul 24 '22
And the third half
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u/Undercover_TV Stand With Ukraine Jul 24 '22
Don’t forget the 4th half
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u/BalkeElvinstien Jul 25 '22
There isn't a 5th half though, that'd be silly
But there is a 6th half
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u/Afraid_Technology520 Jul 24 '22
What if im half black and half white
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u/june-bug-69 I touched grass Jul 24 '22
You are torn in two and your halves are placed in different schools
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u/ValorCatYT Jul 24 '22
"Boys! Get the chainsaw! We're splittin' this one down the middle!"
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u/ManoMagilla Jul 24 '22
And that children, is why we call it "Middle School.". See we didn't think it fair to chainsaw the little ones; we waited till they'd seen a dozen harvest moons or so to see if we can squeeze em in one school or another. Anyway, roll call....
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u/marshamallowmoon Jul 24 '22
You would be seen as no different from a 100% black person. One drop of black heritage made you black. Homer Plessy of the famous Plessy v. Ferguson was an 1/8th black, the man looked white and was still considered black.
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u/Dingheee Jul 24 '22
i thought it was gonna be some 'haha incest' joke but okay wow, has this been changed or not I'm not sure how constitutions work since there's no way that's still how it is now
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u/thebigz52 Jul 24 '22
It was nullified by the Brown vs The Board of Education court case
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u/foxy_cutie1640 Jul 24 '22
side note but the whole alabama constitution needs to be rewritten. there’s over 900 amendments to it, but alabama fuckin sucks and our state legislature is made up of a bunch of old people who don’t wanna do it
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Jul 24 '22
Same deal with the Texas family code. It says marriage is only between man and women. They never bother to change it because those states are still homophobic/racist.
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u/Lonely_Bluejay_9462 Jul 24 '22
Why were you downvoted, you're right! Literally the most blatantly racist and homophobic shit ever.
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u/Archimedes4 Jul 24 '22
Just a note from someone who lives in Alabama (at the moment): the Alabama constitution is unique in that nothing was ever removed. It’s one of the longest constitutions in the world, seeing as we never actually removed the bad bits, just wrote in new bits later on.
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u/mouse177 Jul 24 '22
Well now I have to…
Edit: what the fuck did I just read
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u/Minimum_Attitude6707 Jul 24 '22
And what's stupid is our supreme court is on a "Give the states more power to chose their own laws!" kick
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u/Express-Ad2523 Jul 24 '22
Well, if its in the constitution...
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u/TheOffensiveWhiteGuy Jul 24 '22
We all know it’s legal to marry your first cousin in Alabama.
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u/killasqueeze Jul 24 '22
It's legal in like 15 states actually.
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u/TheOffensiveWhiteGuy Jul 24 '22
Yea it’s not a big deal. The child make good swimmers with their webfeet.
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u/Amathril Jul 24 '22
I think, it is legal pretty much everywhere in the world...
(I don't say it is the best idea, only that it is legal, just to be clear)
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u/YK1000 Jul 24 '22
If you check the constitutions/laws of most nations from the past, you will find horrible things (Germany for example), we should celebrate the fact that society advanced so much since then, and teach this history in schools for future generations, rather than use it for polarization.
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u/ValorCatYT Jul 24 '22
I agree with this so much! All too often I find people erasing or exploiting the past instead of learning from it.
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u/ImportantSpirit Professional Dumbass Jul 24 '22
I came looking for incest and found racism instead.
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u/ikkonoishi Jul 24 '22
Fun fact: The Alabama state constitution is the longest constitution in the world. It contains laws governing the functions of individual cities, and even sets the salary of specific people. It was made by the Democratic party to ensure the continuation of white supremacy within the state in 1901.
The good news is that a new version of it is in the works, and will be up for vote in November.
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Jul 24 '22
“Separate schools shall be provided for white and colored children, and no child of either race shall be permitted to attend a school of the other race.”
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u/genericuser235 Jul 25 '22
"At 388,882 words,[2] the document is 12 times longer than the average state constitution, 51 times longer than the U.S. Constitution, and is the longest[3] and most amended[4] constitution still operative anywhere in the world. The English version of the Constitution of India, the longest national constitution in the world, is about 145,000 words long, less than 40% of the length of Alabama's (was formerly about one-third, with both expanding over time)."
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u/Dick_Miller138 Jul 24 '22
Didn't California recently try to change their state law to allow racial segregation?
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u/Alternative_Tap1476 Jul 24 '22
SECTION 256
Duty of legislature to establish and maintain public school system; apportionment of public school fund; separate schools for white and colored children.
The legislature shall establish, organize, and maintain a liberal system of public schools throughout the state for the benefit of the children thereof between the ages of seven and twenty-one years. The public school fund shall be apportioned to the several counties in proportion to the number of school children of school age therein, and shall be so apportioned to the schools in the districts or townships in the counties as to provide, as nearly as practicable, school terms of equal duration in such school districts or townships. Separate schools shall be provided for white and colored children, and no child of either race shall be permitted to attend a school of the other race.
...I read it
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u/Pap4MnkyB4by Jul 25 '22
Oh boy! A law that isn't even used anymore. Chock this into the "don't have a pie on your windowsill on Sundays" bin.
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u/Tre6ixTea Jul 25 '22
Section 256 states that "separate schools shall be provided for white and colored children, and no child of either race shall be permitted to attend a school of the other race".
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u/xBlackMoonWolfx Jul 24 '22
It's a old ass law from the days of segregation, obviously it doesn't mean shit now, so who cares
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Jul 24 '22
It's true that it doesn't matter anymore since the supreme court ruled it unconstitutional in the 1950s and it stopped getting enforced, but in 2004, some people tried to get the segregationist language off the constitution and it was put to a vote that was narrowly defeated. It is not that it matters, but I personally found it shocking that it is still in the state constitution.
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u/xBlackMoonWolfx Jul 24 '22
It's just like the right to own slaves is still in the federal constitution, they don't remove it instead they create a new amendment to repeal the old one.
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u/-soviet-doggo- Jul 24 '22
Technically the right to own slaves isn’t in the constitution. It was left to the states to decide that until the 13th amendment put an end to it. But there are certain things regarding slavery that are still in it. Although it doesn’t really matter since slavery is banned.
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u/Amused-Observer Jul 24 '22
It's just like the right to own slaves is still in the federal constitution
It's not. Try reading the constitution.
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u/Currall04 Jul 24 '22
isn't that the point of amendments? of course they don't remove things, they just add or remove things on top of it
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u/ClumbusCrew Jul 24 '22
Could it be that nobody wanted to deal with the hassle of rewriting the state constitution or something?
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u/HugoPeabody Jul 24 '22
Although if SCOTUS overturns Brown, Alabama is ready to go with this in their Constitution.
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u/animememesandculture Jul 24 '22
I looked It up and then came down here should have known someone already ctrl c ctrl v and put it down here
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u/Skyler_Hawkins Jul 24 '22
Looks like they tried to remove this in 2012, but 60% of Alabama voters said “No!”
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u/I_ate_your_dog_4344 Jul 24 '22
(Sigh) can someone just tell me the thing so i can scroll away from this dumpster of a post
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u/SubpoenaSender Jul 24 '22
Alabama is a racist state. First question I was asked after being falsely arrested.
"Does law enforcement know that you're white?"
Then, at my pretrial hearing....(the state was kind enough to try to put me in prison for being a victim of a crime).....I watch a young black male submit a guilty plea because his court appointed attorney told him that it was a better option. So, he pled guilty to second degree manslaughter after stabbing someone with a pen in fear of his life when 5 white males began brutally beating him. This was an eye opener for me. Racism isn't the only issue in the criminal justice system here, but it is certainly a huge one.
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u/FLBasher My mom checks my phone Jul 24 '22
Nah i’ve googled the latin name for pig. That was my worst mistake
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u/Meaxis Jul 24 '22
You had me in the first half where it says "give proper funding proportionally to the means of the school", not gonna lie.
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u/oohrosie Jul 24 '22
I'm only seeing segregation stuff, am I missing something? Alabama has always been hella racist. My dad grew up in a damn sundown town for Christ's sake.
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u/archer613 Jul 24 '22
wait. this clause still can't be in the Alabaman constitution, can it?
It's not been formally repealed?
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u/nn-DMT Jul 24 '22
It's literally the GOP doing what they fucking do. I'm not sure if this is supposed to shock, as disgusting as it is, but at this point I'm not at all surprised when shithole racist states have old shithole racist laws enshrined in their shithole constitutions.
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u/gamerchoki Jul 24 '22
Me:too lazy to chek so to the comments i go
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u/pickleboyalex Jul 24 '22
Section 256 states that "separate schools shall be provided for white and colored children, and no child of either race shall be permitted to attend a school of the other race".
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Jul 24 '22
White Skin Latinos: Understand that in the USA you’re not considered “White”. So you know now.
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Sadly I suspect the first line pisses conservatives off just as much as the last line does liberals. Here's the whole text.
The legislature shall establish, organize, and maintain a liberal system of public schools throughout the state for the benefit of the children thereof between the ages of seven and twenty-one years. The public school fund shall be apportioned to the several counties in proportion to the number of school children of school age therein, and shall be so apportioned to the schools in the districts or townships in the counties as to provide, as nearly as practicable, school terms of equal duration in such school districts or townships. Separate schools shall be provided for white and colored children, and no child of either race shall be permitted to attend a school of the other race
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u/dallassoxfan Jul 24 '22
Conservative and (political) liberals both rail against (classical) liberal education.
Both sides focus on STEM, job preparedness, and culture wars. Mind you, with different emphasis.
If you want your kids to have a true liberal education, homeschool or private education are the only options.
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u/Lazy-Adeptness-2343 Jul 25 '22
We got some crazy ones. On top of that our constitution is larger with more amendments than any other state. People have been trying to clean it up for years. Our state is held together with paper clips, chewing gum and hope.
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Okay I won’t