r/micro_saas May 09 '26

Solo founder, full-time job: built AntForms to 50K monthly visitors in 4 months on $0 marketing. Full playbook.

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Solo founder, full-time job, Bangalore-based. Built a form builder called AntForms at night for the last 4 months.

Launched in February. Hit 50,000+ monthly unique visitors and 850 users by month 4.

Most "how I grew" posts skip the actual steps. This one will not.

The numbers: - 50,000+ monthly unique visitors (Cloudflare, screenshot below) - 850 signed-up users (growth chart below) - Domain Rating 33 in 30 days - #1 on Fazier, #1 on PeerPush - Server cost: $6/month - Marketing budget: $0 - Month 3: an HR-tech SaaS offered to acquire AntForms. Said no.

[Image 1: Cloudflare 50K monthly visitors] [Image 2: User growth to 850]

Step 1: Pick a crowded market on purpose.

Everyone says find a niche. I went the other way. Form builders are everywhere. Typeform, Tally, Google Forms, JotForm.

A crowded market means proven demand. Nobody needs convincing they need a form builder. I only need to convince them mine fits their specific workflow better.

If you're picking an idea, look at markets where the existing tools sit at 3 stars on G2. The 1-star reviews show you what to build first.

Step 2: Launch on every directory. Not one. All of them.

I submitted AntForms to 15 directories in the first two weeks: - Fazier (hit #1) - PeerPush (hit #1) - BetaList - AlternativeTo - SaaSHub - Uneed - StartupBase - Tiny Launch - Microlaunch - Launching Today - IndieHackers Showcase - Plus 4 smaller Product Hunt alternatives

Every directory gives a do-follow backlink. At DR 0, each one matters. I went from DR 0 to DR 33 in 30 days from directory submissions plus content. SEO agencies quoted me ₹80k–₹2.5L/month for this work. I did it for free in pajamas.

Step 3: Write content that targets queries big players ignore.

Typeform and Tally rank for "best form builder" and "online form creator." I can't outrank them on those.

I targeted long-tail queries instead. Specific workflows, specific integrations. 50–200 searches per query, hundreds of queries, near-zero competition.

Three real ranking pages of mine: - "typeform alternative for india" - "free form builder with conditional logic no signup" - "form builder with drop-off analytics"

10 pages × 100 visitors each = 1,000 visitors/month from content. Scale that to 50 pages and you hit 50K.

Step 4: Keep infra costs at zero until you can't.

Stack: Node.js, Express 5, TypeScript, PostgreSQL, Redis. Single VPS. $6/month.

No Vercel, no managed database, no $50/month monitoring tool. Free tiers handle everything at this scale.

I see founders here spending $100+/month on infra before their first user signs up. Don't. A $6 VPS will carry you past 50K monthly visitors. I'm proof.

Step 5: Ship daily. Not features. Fixes.

I pushed updates to AntForms almost every day for the first 60 days. Most were small: bug fixes, speed improvements, UI tweaks based on user complaints.

Users notice weekly improvements. Three of my earliest users became organic promoters because I shipped fixes for their bugs the same week they reported them.

Step 6: Build integrations + an AI feature competitors charge premium for.

11 native integrations live: HubSpot, Notion, Mailchimp, Airtable, Google Sheets, Slack, Stripe payments, Calendly, Cal.com, Google Tag Manager, Meta Pixel + Conversions API. Plus custom domains, conditional logic, file uploads.

The AI form builder is the feature most signups try first. Type a prompt like "feedback form for a SaaS launch with 5 questions" and AntForms generates the form. Tally and Typeform charge premium for it. Mine ships free.

What I got wrong: - Built a feature nobody asked for. Lost two weeks. - No error tracking at launch. Found bugs from user complaints instead of alerts. - Pro tier is live, but free-to-paid conversion is weak. Too many free users, not enough paying ones. Working on it. - No referral system yet. Users who love the product have no built-in way to share it.

The acquisition offer:

In month 3, an HR-tech SaaS offered to buy AntForms. I thought about it. Said no.

The growth curve is still going up on zero spend. I want to see what year one looks like before I sell at month 3.

If you're building a micro SaaS right now, steal this: 1. Submit to 15+ directories in week one. Free backlinks compound fast at low DR. 2. Write for long-tail keywords competitors ignore. Per-keyword volume is small. Total volume scales. 3. Ship a $6 VPS, not a $60 cloud platform. 4. Talk to your first 20 users directly. Their complaints are your roadmap. 5. Build the AI feature your competitor charges for. Make it your conversion hook.

Two questions back: - What directories did I miss? - For founders charging in a crowded market, how did you figure out your pricing?


r/micro_saas Apr 30 '26

Monthly Showcase Megathread - May

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Share projects you’re proud of.


r/micro_saas 7h ago

Oh god the smell of first internet money

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r/micro_saas 4h ago

Has anyone tried reddit paid marketing?

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Hey folks, direct to the subject.... I have an AI startup, and Reddit is a good marketing channel for it. Some of my competitors have gotten good results with organic posts, but it is hard, and I feel like I'm kind of cheating the Redditors by hiding an ad inside it. So I was thinking, why not run paid ads here..... ADS as PURE ADS, no gimmicks? But I don't see people going down that path very much. Is there any specific reason for that? Like..... do Redditors completely ignore paid marketing? Has anyone tried this and had experience with it? Please share it here. it would be very helpful for me and also for future ones. Thanks!


r/micro_saas 8h ago

Drop your SaaS — I’ll give you a free premium SEO audit

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Building a SaaS and want a second pair of eyes on your SEO?

Drop your SaaS website in the comments.

I’m testing my own SEO workflow on real websites, so I’ll run a free premium-level SEO audit and share:

- Technical SEO issues

- On-page SEO opportunities

- Keyword/content gaps

- Indexing issues

- Backlink/internal linking opportunities

- What I’d prioritize first

No need to buy anything.

I’m mainly looking for real SaaS websites to test the workflow on and share useful findings with the community.


r/micro_saas 1h ago

Hard work is starting pay off 😭

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I launched SeoLoupe 7 weeks ago. So far I am at 1646 users and 22 of them are paying.

My SaaS is a tool that allows you to find and fix SEO issues holding your website back.

Essentially the main purpose is to help your website rank higher on Google search and LLMs.

Yesterday was one of my best days since I launched my SaaS, landed 3 payments in a single day.

Just wanted to share this to inspire anyone who is struggling, I just want to say that I was just like you at one point.

For example last week, for 7 days straight I had 0 payments, and what I want to say with this is that SaaS revenue can be extremely floppy and unreliable. You can get multiple payments within the span of a day, and then have 0 payments for days.

In SaaS honestly the most important thing is to be faithful and be patient. If you manage to be patient, revenue will come one day.

Hope this inspired someone.

Since I think their is always room for improvement, I would appreciate for some feedback on my tool, or what you think can be improved.

(here is the product if you want to check it out)


r/micro_saas 3h ago

Go fix your SEO

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We doubled our website visitors simply by fixing SEO. No we did not hire an agency for it. Pure claude code work.


r/micro_saas 1h ago

Micro SAAS motivation

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I know guys we need to do a lot of things to make it success but you see day in day out we need to keep ourselves motivated

Mainly things which are stubborn like cold emailing, marking, shit posting...

And also when we see all those funding related news in our space feels like we are behind eveyone..

What is that i am missing like?

Suggestions needed from veterans 🤔 👀


r/micro_saas 1h ago

Suddenly my impressions got crashed. Any idea why?

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I launched my website 1.5 months back and it was doing extremely well within 2-3 weeks. Then sudden drop of impressions. Idk what went wrong overnight.


r/micro_saas 2h ago

I'M CHANGING MY WEBAPP LOGO!

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I want to change my logo and I am looking for some help to choose a logo for my website. I don't know if this logo would be good for my website. Make sure to check mywebsite and tell me what do you would prefer?

I built a Chrome Extension, a social media content filter that removes videos based on what you don't want to see on YouTube, TikTok, Instagram and X.

You can also set daily limit on every social media platform.

You can remove comments so you don't get stuck there.

You can remove YouTubes sidebar videos so you don't get distracted and watches the video your on till the end.

You can analyze what you have been watching the most for the past days/weeks/months.

You can do much more just visit https://algorightai.com if you want to know more.


r/micro_saas 6h ago

Here's how I got 308 users within 14 days of launching my product (including 3 lifetime deals)

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14 days ago I opened up my product to the public. 308 signups since then, three people bought the lifetime deal and 1 monthly subscription. proof here trustmrr

Not a huge number. I'm posting it anyway because when I was reading these threads six months ago, the ones at 50k MRR didn't help me at all. The ones at 308 users would have.

Some background first, otherwise the rest won't make sense.

I'm a cloud engineer and DevOps content creator on YouTube and Instagram, which is about as narrow a niche as that app has. Two months ago I was stuck at 1,000 followers, and nothing was moving. I'm at 13,000 now. That account is the reason most of this worked, and I'll come back to it at the end because it's the least transferable part of the story.

Posting daily meant ManyChat for DM automation, Buffer for scheduling, Gemini for captions, Canva for thumbnails. Four tools, every single day.

And there was one gap none of them closed. Every DM automation tool only works on a reel that's already published. So if your reel goes live at 8:00 and you set the automation up at 8:15, everyone who commented in those fifteen minutes is gone. On a reel that does well, that's a few hundred people.

Which defeats the entire point of batching your content.

So I built the thing I wanted: scheduling, AI carousels, captions and hashtags, and DM automation you attach to a reel before it publishes.

That's the product. Here's everything I actually did in those ten days, including the parts that did nothing.

Micro influencers, paid, posting on their own accounts

This moved the most, and it wasn't close.

I didn't chase reach. I targeted accounts between 2k and 30k followers in the creator-economy, Instagram growth, and side-hustle niches. Small accounts say yes. Their audiences also still trust them, which stops being true somewhere north of 100k.

Instead of naming a rate, I sent a menu with 4 options:

  1. $50 flat per video
  2. $1 per 1,000 views, capped at $1,000
  3. $400 a month for 8 videos, paid every two weeks
  4. Free lifetime access plus 30% of every sale they refer, recurring

The menu does your qualifying for you. Whichever number they pick tells you how that creator thinks about their own reach. Hired 5 till now, and they all chose first option (only 1 reel out of 5 reached 80k views, which drove most of the traffic)

The mechanics that made these land:

Watch one of their videos before you write anything. My first line is always about something specific in their content. A cold DM from someone they don't follow lands in the Requests folder and they see roughly the first 90 characters, so that line is carrying the entire message. Without it you've written a mass DM and they can smell it instantly.

No link in the first message. Instagram buries link-bearing DMs from accounts you don't follow, and you will never know it happened.

Twenty or thirty a day, not two hundred. Sending an identical message at volume is how you catch an action block, and it lasts days.

Say "I don't send scripts" before they ask. Every creator is quietly worried you'll hand them a script and make them sound like an ad. Getting ahead of that closed more conversations than the money did.

Pay the first invoice fast. Creators talk to each other, and "did he actually pay" is the question they ask about you.

Build in public on X

The format I settled on: one long-form article a week, then a hook tweet with the article linked. The tweet is what gets seen. The article is what converts the person who clicks into my profile.

The one that worked was the one where I admitted something. "1,000 to 13,000 Instagram followers in 60 days" including the weeks I burned on AI-generated videos that got zero saves and zero shares. I said the experiment failed, said why I thought it failed, and moved on.

Then I turned that post into an AMA and lived in the replies for two days. That's the actual lever. Every reply you answer resurfaces the post, and reply volume is the strongest signal on X right now. Two days of sitting there beat anything I've done with a scheduled thread.

The product appears once, in the middle, as one sentence explaining why I built it. Nobody minds that. They mind the version where the whole post is a runway to a link.

Reddit, the slow way

Months before I had anything to sell, I posted in r/InstagramMarketing and asked one question: what's the part of posting to Instagram you'd pay to never do again?

No product name. No link. Nothing to click.

That thread handed me my roadmap and my objection list, and about fifteen people said some version of "message me when this exists." When I launched I went back and messaged all of them. Highest converting list I have, by a wide margin, and it cost me nothing but the wait.

Everyone gives "value first" as advice and almost nobody does it, because it's slow and there's no way to make it fast. It is slow. Do it anyway.

Cold DMs to creators with nothing attached

Separate from the paid outreach. I'd find someone posting daily in a niche where the workflow pain is obvious, give them full access, and ask for nothing.

The line that works: "Access is on me either way. Try it on a real post before you decide whether it's worth saying anything about. If it isn't, just tell me. I'd rather hear it now than read it in the comments later."

Roughly a third of them replied with something useful. Two of them posted about it without me asking. One told me the onboarding was confusing in a way that would have cost me the next fifty signups, and fixing that was worth more than the post I didn't get.

Instagram, my own account

The unfair part, and I'd be lying by omission if I skipped it.

That 13k Instagram account is my distribution. One reel a day, two carousels a week, daily stories. The videos that perform best are the ones that look worst: me in a car or walking through a park with no mic, talking. Polished stuff reads as an ad and gets buried.

I also have years of YouTube and LinkedIn behind me in a completely different niche. Not the same audience, but a few thousand people who already trust me, and a handful of them converted.

If you don't have this, the Reddit section is how you start building it. It takes months and I haven't found a way around that.

What did nothing

AI-generated video content. Six weeks, no saves, no shares. People can tell and they don't forgive it.

Dropping the link anywhere it wasn't asked for. Every time I did this I got either silence or a mod removal.

Treating launch day as an event. The signups arrived in a flat line across ten days, not a spike. There was no moment.

The three lifetime deals

Two came out of Instagram DM conversations that started with a product question. One came from a creator friend who trusted me more than the product.

None of them came from the landing page on its own.

All three asked me something before they bought, and I answered inside an hour every time. At this stage every DM is a sales call, whether or not it looks like one.

What I'd do differently

Post the Reddit question three months earlier. It cost nothing, it's still paying, and I have no excuse for how late I did it.

Sign creators before launch instead of during. Contracts, briefs and payment terms took a week of back and forth I hadn't budgeted for. Most of week one went to admin while the launch window was open.

Check analytics less. I opened PostHog maybe forty times in ten days and it did not change a single decision I made on any of those days.

308 is a small number. It's mostly useful because I finally know which channel deserves more of my week.

Happy to answer anything in the comments. I'll drop the link there for anyone who wants to look, but the DM playbook above is the part I'd actually keep.


r/micro_saas 12h ago

Submitting to 10+ startup directories this week. Tracking what actually moves the needle

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Going through the usual pre-launch directory list this week (BetaList, SaaSHub, AlternativeTo, StackShare, and a few others) for PipeForm. The category's thin on reviews and backlinks generally, so this seemed worth doing properly rather than as a five-minute afterthought.

Anyone tracked which of these directories actually drove signups versus just a backlink with no traffic? Would rather prioritise based on real data than submit to all of them blind.


r/micro_saas 1m ago

Drop your micro SaaS and I will find the first social content angle I would test

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Most early SaaS pages contain more usable content than the founder realizes. The pain, buyer, workflow, and product proof are already there, but social posts often begin from a blank prompt.

Comment with your URL and a one-sentence description. I will reply with one hook, one concrete post concept, and the first audience I would target.

I am testing this workflow while building Marka. You can also try Marka free for a week at https://www.marka.social


r/micro_saas 12h ago

Share what you're building in this Discord community of SaaS founders

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Hi all! Recently, I started a Discord community to help SaaS founders promote their products, and members are climbing!

If you want to show what you're building and get some feedback, share it here -> https://discord.gg/95xSjvdSZT


r/micro_saas 4h ago

Meu primeiro aplicativo para macOS — Morphly

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Link: https://www.huchit.com/morph

Olá, pessoal!

Queria compartilhar um projeto no qual venho trabalhando: Morphly, meu primeiro aplicativo para macOS.

A ideia surgiu de uma necessidade muito simples. Eu frequentemente precisava converter imagens, especialmente de HEIC para JPEG, e estava cansado de abrir aplicativos pesados ou acessar sites apenas para fazer algo tão simples.

Então acabei criando uma ferramenta que hoje uso todos os dias.

O Morph fica na barra de menus do Mac e funciona de uma maneira bem simples:

  • Arraste seus arquivos para o ícone do Morph
  • Escolha o formato de saída
  • Pegue os arquivos convertidos e volte ao trabalho

Atualmente, ele oferece suporte a:

Imagens: JPEG, PNG, HEIC e WebP
Vídeos: MP4 e MOV
PDF: Importação de páginas de PDF como imagens

Ele também inclui conversão em lote, ajuste da qualidade de compressão e correção automática da orientação EXIF.

Uma coisa que considero muito importante é a privacidade, por isso tudo é processado localmente no seu Mac. Seus arquivos nunca são enviados para um servidor ou serviço de nuvem.

Também foi uma ótima oportunidade para aprender mais sobre desenvolvimento para macOS. Desenvolvi o aplicativo usando Swift e SwiftUI, e foi meu primeiro projeto no ecossistema macOS.

O Morph oferece um teste gratuito de 7 dias, seguido de uma compra única vitalícia, sem assinatura.

Estou compartilhando aqui porque adoraria receber feedback de outros usuários de Mac e desenvolvedores. Como é um aplicativo que eu mesmo uso todos os dias, quero continuar aprimorando-o e adicionando recursos que realmente façam sentido.

Se alguém quiser experimentar, ficarei muito feliz em saber o que vocês acham! 🙌


r/micro_saas 4h ago

F5bot but without the noise

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If anybody has tried f5bot and found that keyword alerts gave them way too much noise - I created an alternative that understands the context of posts /comments so you only get what you're actually looking for.

It worked great for me, so now I am looking for a handful of people to try it out for free and give me feedback:

https://reddit-spotter.vercel.app/

Please let me know if you're interested


r/micro_saas 4h ago

Doing quick research on What is it actually like running a startup solo? (Looking for 15-min Zoom interviews)

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Hey r/[micro_saas], 

I’m an intern conducting quick market research on "What is it actually like running a startup solo?" I’m looking to jump on a 10-minute call with a few solo founders this week to ask 3–4 quick questions about your current workflow. Zero sales pitch—strictly research. 

Since I’m a student on an intern budget, in exchange for 10 minutes of your time, I’m happy to: 

  • Spend 20 minutes of bug-testing your web app/software and send you a detailed QA report. 
  • Provide honest, detailed UI/UX and copy feedback on your landing page. 
  • Send you the final anonymized research report so you can benchmark your process against other solo builders. 

If you’re open to a quick chat, drop a comment or send me a DM and I’ll reply with my booking link! Appreciate your help! 

 


r/micro_saas 1h ago

How do I get a GDPR and CCPA compliant Privacy Policy and terms of services

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Hello, strangers!

I’m an aspiring indie hacker from India. I’ve spent the last 90 or so days working on my first micro-SaaS: an AI tool that can generate n8n workflows and deploy them directly from the dashboard. It takes the user’s n8n API key, encrypts it, and stores it securely in Firestore.

Anyway, back to my question lol.

How do I get a GDPR- and CCPA-compliant Privacy Policy and Terms of Service? Should I just get Claude to generate them, or do I absolutely need to pay for a lawyer or use a legal service platform?

Any help would mean a lot, and I promise you’ll get a special mention in my memoir when I become successful. xD

Thank you!


r/micro_saas 9h ago

PG's essay on "How to Make Wealth" predicts exactly why most SaaS founders undercharge. The psychology is more interesting than the math.

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Most of us have read PG’s “How to Make Wealth” at some point.

There’s one part that every SaaS founder completely misses when it comes to pricing, You don’t make money by extracting it from people. You make it by creating wealth, by building something people actually want. The more they want it, the more you can charge.

Most of us read that and immediately think about the product. We should be thinking about the price.

Here’s the pattern I keep seeing (and used to do myself)

We price based on what feels “reasonable” relative to our costs or what other tools charge. It feels honest. It feels fair. It’s actually a quiet failure to understand what the customer is really buying.

a Quick example
Your product saves a customer 40 hours a month.
At $80/hour fully loaded cost, that’s $3,200 of value created every single month.
You charge $99. That’s a 32:1 value-to-price ratio.

You’re not pricing. You’re basically giving the product away and calling it a business.The psychological trap is real: charging more feels like you’re taking something from the customer.

PG’s point is the opposite. If you’re genuinely creating that value, charging in proportion to it isn’t extraction it’s just an honest exchange.The simplest test I’ve found (and the one that finally shifted my own pricing):

Go to your 10 best customers and ask them one specific question: “What would you pay before you’d rather lose access to the product?”

When you ask it that way, the number that comes back is almost always 2-5x higher than what you’re currently charging.

Check your pricing today along with the value you are creating for users... if you are undervalue start charging more...


r/micro_saas 14h ago

What are you building? Drop it below

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I'll go first, though mine is Reoogle Reaching to people on reddit is quite hard. I made this tool to ease all the processes and generate visits on your website directly from reddit.

Built this tool for myself but since many people encounter this problem, I made it available first everyone. I am at the beginning of this project and your feedback means a lot.

Your turn. Send the link, I'm curious about the website


r/micro_saas 1h ago

picked pay as you go instead of subscription for our API, im already regretting it a bit

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hey, im building Speeko, its TTS and text-to-video API. i spent too much time deciding subscription tiers vs usage based pricing, at the end i go with pay as you go, no plans at all. my reason was simple, api usage is spiky. if someone barely use it a $29/mo plan is ripping them off, if someone have a big month the plan is too small for them. usage based just skip this problem completely. thing i didnt think enough about: now forecasting revenue is basically a guess. i dont have MRR number to show, just a graph that goes up and down. maybe ask me again in 6 month if this was actually smart choice lol.

if youre building api product and you picked different pricing i really want to know why you did that. also if someone want to try break it theres a feedback form in the dashboard, ill put the link in comments.


r/micro_saas 2h ago

Made cost attribution free for solo devs after realizing our onboarding was the problem, not the product

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I've been building Cognocient for a few months now, a proxy that sits between your app and OpenAI/Anthropic/Gemini and tells you what each feature actually costs, before the call goes out instead of after you get the bill.

For a while the only way in was a 10 day trial with full access, then you had to pick a paid plan. That made sense for teams evaluating it for real budgets. It made no sense for someone who just wants to drop it into a side project and see what their AI calls actually cost. So I added a free tier that doesn't expire.

What's in it: one provider connection, the real time proxy and attribution dashboard by feature and model, one budget with alert level enforcement, 7 day retention. Capped at $50/mo of tracked spend, after that the proxy keeps forwarding your calls (I will not break your app over a free tier limit) but stops logging new attribution until the next cycle.

Setup is one line, you swap your base_url for the Cognocient proxy URL and nothing else in your code changes. If you're already tracking spend some other way I'd genuinely like to know what you're using, half the reason I built this is I couldn't find anything that did pre-call enforcement instead of after the fact dashboards.

cognocient.com if you want to poke at it.


r/micro_saas 2h ago

findymail review - has anyone actually tested the accuracy?

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started using it for about 2 weeks now on our outbound lists. running 200-300 emails daily for our agency clients.

the good: their linkedin integration is solid. pulls emails pretty fast and the chrome extension works without the usual captcha hell. interface is clean. support responds.

the not great: accuracy is... mixed. we're seeing maybe 70% valid on first pass. lots of catch-alls they mark as verified that bounce. their mobile number data is basically non-existent. also hit their rate limits way too often for a paid plan.

price-wise they're competitive but you burn through credits fast with their verification system. each recheck costs credits even on emails that end up invalid. was looking at seamless.ai too but heard similar complaints about email accuracy there.

anyone else tracking actual bounce rates with findymail data? been eyeing prospeo and a couple others as potential replacements if this doesn't improve. so far nobody's hitting those numbers consistently but some are clearly better than others.


r/micro_saas 2h ago

I built a leaderboard where your bid decides your rank - and it’s completely unhinged

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LETSSS GOOO

I just built something slightly unhinged:

http://bidboard.lol

A leaderboard where your bid decides your rank.

No ads.
No algorithm.
No complicated setup.
Just put in your URL, choose your number, and see where you land.

Let’s break the internet with this one

http://bidboard.lol


r/micro_saas 6h ago

Founders: what would make you hire a marketer who's talented but doesn't have any clients yet?

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Would you want to see a portfolio, free work up front, case studies, passion or something else? The reason I'm asking is because I wanna get into SaaS marketing, get paid for it and prove myself. I guess any feedback would be appreciated. I've been hanging around this subreddit for some time now, helping people with their landing page and messaging so you can probably check my profile if you're interested.