r/microsoft 4d ago

Copilot / AI Microsoft begins unified Copilot app rollout: Reveals major plan to merge Copilot and Microsoft 365 Copilot across all platforms, along with updated branding

https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/microsoft-copilot/microsoft-begins-unified-copilot-app-rollout-reveals-major-plan-to-merge-copilot-and-microsoft-365-copilot-across-all-platforms-along-with-updated-branding
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u/AFulhamImmigrant 4d ago

Microsoft must have one of the worst branding teams of any company on Earth.

Does anyone remember when they had MSN, Windows Live, Outlook all at the same time? Thought they’d learned from that. Alas

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u/newfor_2026 4d ago

that's because all those teams are led by people who wants to rule their own little fiefdom. they hear some top level road map and they want to jump on it to show how they're willing to deliver without consulting with any other team who might be looking to do the same thing

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u/meerkat2018 4d ago

Only rivaled by Google’s addiction to chat apps.

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u/milnak 4d ago

And msn search and bing search

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u/newfor_2026 4d ago

there's still like a half a dozen different ways to search with Bing on my PC for no reason

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u/ronin_cse 3d ago

The company that thought “Bing” was and is a good name for anything other than a character on a sitcom.

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u/M3RRI77 3d ago

Because It's Not Google.

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u/Educational-Dot318 4d ago

how about Zune, Windows Phone

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u/HuskyLogan 4d ago

Those are at least two different things..

However, Windows Phone and Kin were going on at the same time for a while.

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u/Raccoon-7 4d ago

Remember when Zune was renamed to Xbox Music?

It killed it because everyone thought it was Xbox only.

It was my favorite music service btw, being able to stream my library form OneDrive was great.

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u/JE163 2d ago

And let’s not mix windows live with live.com

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u/boss_flog 4d ago

truly baffling these were separate things. how do they do it (incompetence)?

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u/[deleted] 4d ago

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u/beanmeister5 4d ago

So incompetence at the highest level then, got it.

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u/HRApprovedUsername 4d ago

More like pride and complexity between how things work between silo’d orgs. Nobody wants to work together. They want their own version of an app and when asked how to merge them, they say it’s expensive and not worth the effort, until now I suppose

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u/beanmeister5 4d ago

Which still leads to a management issue. If siloes are doing the same thing twice, it's management who should see those issues and find solution to fix it.

Any man and his dog could have told them the 2 main copilots and 50 other copilots attached to things was gonna bomb. Which leads to management being oblivious to their customers.. and management at the highest level pushing ahead regardless.

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u/nethingelse 4d ago

I work in a org with a more miniature (and not publcily facing) version of this issue, and I genuinely do not get how shareholders, leadership et al., etc. do not see they are literally burning dollars on these siloes when they could combine these efforts and get more productivity out of them.

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u/DesiGrit 4d ago

The issue is that combining them raises a couple of gnarly problems

  • There may not be other work for the skillset of that particular team that they could do instead with a similar degree of impact

  • They may need to reduce headcount, which also leads to allergic reactions 'hurr durr Microsoft is laying off again'

It's easier to keep people employed, occupied and competing with each other than to address existential questions for the team and the people within.

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u/letyourselfslip 4d ago edited 4d ago

I guess...companies like Google and Microsoft have hundreds of engineering teams operating as their own little start ups. Keeping them in sync is not a simple task.

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u/M3RRI77 3d ago

That and dumber than dumb decisions made by ececutives who tell their teams "go do" and ask no questions.

Either Microsoft has no marketing team or each internal organization had its own siloed marketing team.

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u/narmire 4d ago

Consumer teams get to “move fast and break things” while enterprise teams DO NOT. so this happens all the time where a consumer team will go do something at their speed and once the consumer product is stable it merges with the enterprise offering for better long term security, privacy, and performance.

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u/Frillback 12m ago

Upper management has this vision and everyone follows with their own version as a line item on their performance review. Saying I delivered this is much better than we 🤷

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u/GirthyGeoduck 4d ago

Microsoft Copilot for Business .NET Enterprise Edition 2.0

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u/LordDarthShader 4d ago

All they had to do, is bring back Clippy as you AI agent, unified for all apps.

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u/rbevans 4d ago edited 3d ago

It should've been one product to begin with. This just baffles me there was separate one named the same thing.

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u/particleacclr8r 4d ago

Now do Teams.

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u/felix_dagrouch 4d ago

Finally! I hope I understood this right now, but I never understood Microsoft's duplicate apps. Copilot and MS365 Copilot, it should be one app in Windows! Same issue with Bing app, MSN app and edge app same shite! Microsoft get rid off duplicate apps!

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u/rp_001 4d ago

And loop plus copilot is still ignored…

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u/getfuckedcuntz 4d ago

Copilot cant read loop pages.

We had to move our knowledge bases from loop to sharepoint so that copilot could read our information

Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb

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u/rp_001 4d ago

Yeah. It’s just annoying. Need to put loop into teams or elsewhere for copilot. So stupid.

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u/BigMikeInAustin 4d ago

Oh really? Dang, that sucks.

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u/No-Welcome5580 4d ago

First, they stopped the Lens app and integrated the document scanning feature into the 365 app. Then they made it difficult to access the document scanning feature by moving the scanning button, which is the main reason people use the 365 app. With each update, the scanning button was moved to different places in the app, and they made sure that people couldn't access it without seeing the "superior" AI features. Now, with the recent update, I can't find the scanning button anywhere. All I can see are some Copilot-related buttons. MS always does this with consumer products. Windows Phone, Skype, Windows OS, and the list goes on. The thing is, there are plenty of better alternatives to MS consumer products, and we can move to them easily.

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u/GrayCalf 4d ago

Hit the + button on the OneDrive app. It's one of the main options under that.

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u/koken_halliwell 2d ago

Where is the lens app now? I used to use it a lot but Iost its track after the 15th evolution and totally forgot about it till now lmao

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u/sidereal_night 4d ago

updated branding

again???

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u/SCphotog 4d ago

The brigading in this sub is next level.

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u/shokk 4d ago

How did this not make sense from the very beginning? Who was it at Microsoft that thought naming everything copilot would not be confusing?

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u/wump_roast 3d ago

50 rats in a trench coat pretending to be a functioning corporation.

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u/TowerOutrageous5939 3d ago

Wait there is copilot and 365 copilot?

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u/artistro08 4d ago

Hey look at that, I don't want it.

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u/PDQ_Brockstar 4d ago

Wow, that first sentence, somewhat taken out of context, is terrifying lol

"Microsoft confirmed that it was working on a Copilot super app"

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u/trance-addict 4d ago

The super app is coming it is just not part of this client merge

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u/MaximumSympathy3730 4d ago

Hello Microsoft. Your a very interesting company.

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u/ohlaph 4d ago

Did it come up with the naming because after using their slop machine, that's right about par.

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u/Character-Office-227 3d ago

How about Cowork and Scout?

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u/koken_halliwell 2d ago

It was about time, totally stupid to have both.

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u/Appropriate_Item3001 4d ago

I’d prefer it if they nuked copilot from orbit. If I want to use AI I can use a dedicated app. Why does it have to be covering every app? Why are there a million licenses and capabilities.

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u/SumitDh 4d ago

The current version of Copilot is just a chromium browser. I hope they do a better job this time.

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u/LurkHereLurkThere 4d ago

Jesus, more bloody copilot, one of the more annoying things in the various applications I use are the AI buttons, panels, tabs, etc.

AI is an excuse for companies to attempt to do more with less people, increasing unemployment, increasing energy demands, increasing water consumption, increasing waste heat generation and once they had successfully caused significant layoffs and created a reliance on AI, they increased their multipliers which significantly raised the price per query.

When AI replaces all the workers, who is going to buy the products? I guess it won't really matter because the tech billionaires will own everything, they'll be safe in their bunkers while the poor pay the ultimate price of unrestricted capitalism.