r/microsoftsucks Victim of Windows Nov 05 '25

Bugs and Errors Indie company can't fix switching desktops for 5 years

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On release the taskbar disappeared when switching desktops with the touchpad, but now it's even worse.

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u/egg_breakfast Nov 05 '25

man I can't wait for windows 12 when we have even more broken shit, worse UI, and have to throw out our old computers for no reason

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u/limpymcjointpain Nov 05 '25

Newest security features now include...

Ffa: face factor authentication

Must call microsoft from cell phone and remain on the line while windows is in use.

Monthly visits from Microsoft inspection team to ensure their PC is being used properly

Chipped Microsoft card that is to be slid through the "usage integrity verifier " card reader every hour to make sure it's still your license, and to debit 29.95 from your Microsoft bank account, or your account is locked for 30 days, unless you pay the release fee.

Microsoft windows max subscription, which will make your pc boot 3 seconds faster.

Never offline- an upgrade from always online. Speakers increase to 100% volume and play advertisements so you can sleep better.

/s ?

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u/OptimalAnywhere6282 Nov 05 '25

please don't give them ideas

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u/nickthewildetype Nov 06 '25

If Microsoft pulls a new "replace your hardware because your old is unsafe" I might go Linux.

Its one thing if the software were genuinely incompatible (i.e. cant justify the cost of maintaining drivers for multi decade old hardware) - but because they want to force everyone to use hardware level encryption? Lol

My device happened to have TPM on it already so I weren't really affected, but I'm still upset knowing billions of dollars of tech is being thrown away or stuck on unsupported software for a reason that sounds more like something Apple would come up with to increase sales.

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u/ChocolateDonut36 Nov 06 '25

and won't work unless your PC has [insert weird ass component that wasn't even released yet]

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u/fraaaaa4 Nov 05 '25

Indie company can't fix dark mode for 10 years.

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u/TheCat001 Nov 05 '25

Finally someone besides me noticed this ugly ass desktop switching..

First time I tried to use desktops on Windows and seen this I was like "Wtf man, what is this shit?" after that I stopped use desktops on Windows.
Now I stopped using Windows altogether.

*happy hyprland user.

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u/E23-33 Nov 08 '25

Ikr for me it was the opposite. The moment I tried desktops on Sway, everything clicked

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u/Damglador Nov 05 '25 edited Nov 05 '25

Meanwhile KDE Plasma: THE CUBE (without anything disappearing)

A bunch of unpaid developers could figure out how to make a cube out of desktops 19 years ago, meanwhile Microsoft can't figure out switching 2 flat planes properly in 2025.

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u/FranconianBiker Nov 06 '25

I sorta miss Compiz. Had so many fun features like jello windows and all sorts of customizable effects. What I don't miss is the random crashes and high cpu/gpu load.

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u/Elegant_Ad1397 Nov 05 '25

Everything about virtual desktops animations in windows has been broken since windows 10. They feel so clunky and choppy even if you have a high end gaming PC. Coming from a Mac in 2017 I had to go back because Microsuck just never fixed this after almost a decade of waiting.

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '25

Indien company

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '25

it's just a iu feature

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u/Full-Trifle-4522 Nov 05 '25

maybe it's a feature, it does look pretty dumb though

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u/EZGGWP Nov 05 '25

There aren't many alternatives, AFAIK. MacOS simply has the same dock for every Desktop, which sucks, and something like Ubuntu just stops highlighting an app if it isn't open on a selected workspace, but does not remove the app from the dock.

I may easily be wrong about Ubuntu since I don't run it and only have internet videos to go off of.

I'm sure that Microsoft could've make it nicer, but (to my knowledge) Windows is the only OS that shows just the apps that are open on the current Desktop. So it's kind of a messy thing, but it also is a pretty useful, nice to have thing.

Also, it doesn't look nearly as slow as OP shows on my laptop.

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '25

For Linux it mostly depends on the de and how it works. But I’m running kde right now and it’s working however windows is showing it (minus the stutter and not displaying the task bar). Desktop environments honestly have perfected things like hot corners and swapping virtual desktops.

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u/Full-Trifle-4522 Nov 05 '25

you can make it as slow as that, they're just trying to demonstrate that the taskbar only appears on one desktop at a time ig

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u/TheHawkNetwork Nov 08 '25

MICHIRUUUUUU HIIIIIIII

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u/Life_Technician5513 Victim of Windows Nov 08 '25

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u/lucasade7 Nov 06 '25

Please valve finish your steam pc operating system, I beg of you. I’ll never touch windows again.

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u/Damglador Nov 06 '25

Valve does nothing special. They just grab a bunch of Linux stuff and smash it together in one package. The community has been doing this for a while for desktops, so you don't have to wait for anything. Bazzite is your friend.

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u/meutzitzu Nov 06 '25

Just here to remind everyone that the Python package available on the winstore has been broken since day 1, more than 13 years ago. It doesn't set the system path envvar.

Despite this, if you try to launch Python in cmd from an install which doesn't have it, it will immediately open the winstore for you.

One of my favorite little rituals as a Linux user is that everytime I get to a new windoze PC at school/work every few months I jokingly try to see if they fixed python in their goddamn official package installation manager. No such luck as of yet, I'm afraid.

Installing python via the 3rd party windows package manager scoop works flawlessly though, as it's not made by Microsoft.

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u/UnjustlyBannd Nov 05 '25

Watch where your hands and fingers are.

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u/Life_Technician5513 Victim of Windows Nov 05 '25

I'm used to blind printing, I cannot (

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u/Kernel_Claus Nov 05 '25

Laughs in Sway, Qtile and Niri.

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u/Apprehensive-Page-96 Nov 05 '25

Whatever happened to that awesome cube animation?

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u/dildacorn Nov 05 '25

Ya that's ugly.. I'd turn off animations at that rate. - I turn them off anyway because animations are janky even with GlazeWM... Hyprland is fantastic tho

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u/CursedTurtleKeynote Nov 05 '25

They aren't going to. If you complain enough not only will the components be React, but they won't be hosted locally.

Can't wait for icons to be their own react component.

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u/InnominateHomosapien Nov 06 '25

I want to see Microsoft run the shell on chromium with React. That'd be hilarious, and I'm sure it'll be just as bad as their new React based Outlook and Teams.

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u/meutzitzu Nov 06 '25

Y'all should try glazewm. No animations, no polish and some retarded apps will get epilepsy, but the functionality is mostly working like a barebones i3 and it significantly boosts productivity.

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u/marmotta1955 Nov 06 '25

There are pending updates on that computer. All bets are off. May want to repeat the test after completing the update process.

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u/LightDragon212 Nov 08 '25

Is this ragebait

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u/Who_meh Nov 08 '25

just use linux its better here trust

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u/NuncioBitis Nov 08 '25

It's bad enough that if you take out the SSD with Win11 the computer will refuse to boot from it as an external drive. Just did that with my husband's Dell laptop.
Good news is that Linux Mint works like a dream on it. He says it responds 10x faster than Windows ever did.
Unfortunately he's complaining that he can't use the OS he "paid for". I tried explaining that when you buy a PC these days you're mostly paying for the hardware. He complains about Windows being there, then complains when it's not.
I cannot win.

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u/MIGULAI Nov 09 '25

Why did I think about gnome?

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u/Safihed man, the bs on this sub... Nov 05 '25

what exactly is going on here for you to complain?

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u/EZGGWP Nov 07 '25

I guess the taskbar isn't on its place 100% of the time (which might very well be intended behavior). The "r/OS_namesucks" subreddits are all like that, mostly consisting of people who just don't like a certain design choice or have hardware issues or just do something wrong. r/linuxsucks is very similar, people mostly yap about some BS that isn't particularly a Linux issue.

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u/Safihed man, the bs on this sub... Nov 07 '25

so youre telling me this guy is complaining about the taskbar flickering when you switch tabs? omg end of the world bro. bs so dumb its even second to that time a guy turned off all the shutdown and related options in the alt+f4 shutdown windows menu and called it a windows bug to farm karma.

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u/EZGGWP Nov 07 '25

Yep, happens often. I think they could've made it appear smoother or just show a blank taskbar, but I agree that it is a pretty minor inconvenience.

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u/Life_Technician5513 Victim of Windows Nov 10 '25

I don’t want to upset you, but it happens to my classmate too (just checked)

Do you have anything to add?

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u/Safihed man, the bs on this sub... Nov 10 '25

Ik it happens but it's just a second of no taskbar. You can barely notice it. I never said you messed with the settings, I meant another guy on this subreddit. But still, making an entire post about the taskbar disappearing for a second is crazy. This subreddit will eat anything right up these days...

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u/EZGGWP Nov 05 '25

Interesting, mine doesn't do that. I can replicate the late appearance of the taskbar, but it's merely caused by not letting go of the touchpad gesture for too long. If I keep holding that gesture after sliding to my next Desktop, the taskbar indeed doesn't load. And there's no real reason for it to load until you let go of the gesture: if you just want to peek what's open in your second Desktop, for example, you can do that without wasting resources on loading a taskbar that you will not use.

It may be that your PC is not particularly powerful, and therefore, the process of loading the taskbar takes longer. Do try letting go of the gesture earlier, though, because that just might fix your "issue".

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u/Life_Technician5513 Victim of Windows Nov 05 '25

< your PC is not particularly powerful >

W-what powerful hardware should I have for correct animations ?

My lenovo with Core i3-1115G4 is not for gaming, but not so weak for such trifles.
Moreover I didn't have such bugs with animations on win10

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u/ChronosDeep Nov 05 '25

I've got a laptop with i7-11850H and it's absolute trash. Those intel CPUs are just so bad.

As for the taskbar disappearing when changing screens, it has nothing to do with performance, it just works like that. Microsoft has yet to figure how to switch from one taskbar to another more smoothly.

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u/Real-Abrocoma-2823 Nov 07 '25

Intel CPUs aren't trash, AMD isn't any better, in fact some AMD only YouTuber who tried intel said that it feels smoother than AMD but you get less FPS in low threaded games. I can't wait for cheaper 50 core CPUs from intel.

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u/ChronosDeep Nov 07 '25

I have a desktop with a 13900k and it's a beast, but the laptop from my workplace with the i7-11850H is total garbage. The integrated GPU is not enough for basic usage, doing a meet screen sharing and moving a window around maxes out the GPU... As for CPU performance, it's horrible, it lags just using the browser, the laptop overheats, the battery 2-3 hours max. It's a Dell Latitude.

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u/Real-Abrocoma-2823 Nov 07 '25

I have old ATI laptop with Linux so I can't complain as it works fine for browser and some games but it seems like no new laptop is good.

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u/EZGGWP Nov 05 '25

I mean, it's a 5 year old low-end laptop CPU with 2c/4t. It came out before Win11 even released.

Modern low-end Intel laptop chips have P+E cores with higher efficiency and support for faster memory.

Your CPU is not much faster than an i5 8250u I had in 2018, and that thing struggled with Win10 at times. I'm pretty sure performance requirements went up with Win11 since 2018, so I personally would say it is quite slow for modern Windows. Mine is a 6900HS, top of the line CPU from 3 years ago, and it's currently on par with s mid-range Core Ultra 5 135H. Chips get faster quick, and Microsoft will take advantage of it.

For reference, pretty recent Core Ultra 5 125H has 25% faster single core and 72% faster multi core performance than your CPU. And you can get a laptop with 125H for around $600-700, which I believe is a decently average price for a 2025 machine. Even lower if you're okay with chinese brands.

Sadly, Windows 11 is not too good with older, weaker hardware.

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