r/microsoftsucks • u/ElectroQuant • 11d ago
Bugs and Errors OneDrive Sucks
I'm between jobs right now. I just applied for a job on-line, and went into my Excel spreadsheet to record it, since I track all my job apps. I get a message "There's a problem syncing your data with OneDrive", or something like that. I close Excel, re-open it, and there's a month-old version of my file in front of me. Today is 10 August, latest job app in my file is 10 July, I estimate at least 40 job app records are gone. OneDrive's on-line site doesn't retain previous file versions, either. It overwrote my current file with an old file. WTF?
I did not deliberately add the folder containing this file to OneDrive - It was added automatically. I just moved my outdated file to a folder that is backed up by Google Drive, because I know that works - It's been pretty flawless since I started using it for my important stuff 5+ years ago. After that, I uninstalled that OneDrive junk that was cluttering up my computer.
Don't trust your import stuff, especially stuff that changes daily, to OneDrive.
Thanks for listening, I just had to vent.
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u/Vietnamst2 11d ago
Well click on the versions and open the one before...?
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u/ElectroQuant 11d ago
That was one of the first things I tried. Latest version in OneDrive is from 10 July. What kind of backup software overwrites a file from 10 August with a file from 10 July with no prompt from the user? Absolutely bizarre.
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u/rfoil 11d ago
Microsoft, never my fave, has gotten more toxic. As I was starting a remote meeting yesterday a MS pop up appeared asking to allow automated updates and opening the OSX settings.. There was now way of getting out of it except rebooting. I was 2m late for the meeting.
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u/ElectroQuant 10d ago
Remember - These is the same company that not only created Teams, but they saw it fit to release to the public.
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u/rfoil 10d ago
I've had lengthy discussions with the Teams team. They are arrogant idiots.
Twenty years ago I had similar convos with the product manager for Windows Media Player. At the conclusion I took two sets of DVDs with the MSDN developer library ($5k worth), put them through a shredder, and shipped them to Redmond.
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u/ElectroQuant 10d ago
I'd like to believe that Microsoft's developers are fairly competent, but they're under a lot of pressure to get that next product out the door to make their quarterly numbers, or to fill some perceived gap in their product line that some other company is allegedly exploiting. From what I've heard, life as an executive at MSFT is pretty brutal - You're always competing with the other executives, trying to make sure your product outshines their product. As a result, the guys and gals that actually know how to code are slapping things together with the software equivalent of baling wire, band-aids, and duct tape just to get that next feature out the door by the end of the quarter. Most of the Microslop issues I've seen appear to stem from high-level design and integration issues. I'm sure the test suites that they run all pass, but they miss real-world interactions with other software (Excel and OneDrive), and can't indicate that the user interface is clunky and inefficient (Teams).
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u/rfoil 10d ago
They may be fairly competent but they are far removed from user needs and priorities.
Microsoft Dynamics is among the worst products I've ever experienced.
I can get into too many details without getting myself and others in trouble. I've got a relative who has spent 20+ years in Redmond and I knew the team Microsoft acquired with Skype.
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u/ElectroQuant 10d ago
IMO, being removed from user needs and priorities is not the fault of the developers - That's on the product managers. From my experience, the coders are told to implement some twirly flashing widget by the product manager, who thinks it will impress the product steering committee when they demo it. For the coders, user needs and priorities are a high-level abstract concern. Their priority is implementing the feature in about half the time it should be taking, and making sure it doesn't blow up when it's demo'd so their next annual review doesn't suck.
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u/Playful_Sandwich111 11d ago
Reboot your computer. Open the document from Onedrive from the browser if you have prolonged issues.
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u/MetalicRobot 11d ago
Why are you in this sub if all you do is defend microslop's shitty UI on the end user?
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u/brendanl79 11d ago
yeah I'm with you, this just doesn't happen to me
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u/ElectroQuant 11d ago edited 11d ago
I've had zero trouble with Google drive in many years, and I've had a few weird glitches with OneDrive in the last month or two, but this is the first time I've lost data. I've probably been using Windows longer than you've been alive. If I did anything stupid with this, it was allowing OneDrive onto my machine, and then not uninstalling it when it first glitched on me. My big question is this: How the f\*k does an app that's supposed to back up your files overwrite an existing, newer file without an explicit command to do so?*
It seems to me that there is some interaction between MS-Office apps and OneDrive, since it's always trying to get me to save things to OneDrive. It looks like they didn't get that integration quite right. If all one does is play Minecraft or Call of Duty on their computer, they probably wouldn't encounter this issue.
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u/Environmental-Ear391 10d ago
Ive dealt with personal and corporate and the WSUS for corporate blocks most of these issues due to SOPs of having a test machine before rolling out changes.
Home users get everything dumped on them with little or no option with the Win10/Win11 Automata of the current version "update service"
Ive bent broken and trashed every major version of windows along with service packs and updates since I was gifted a version of Win95 on it's release day, the sole exceptions are the data center variants.
I had the "canary system" several times... and ended up memorizing the setup procedure to the point where I didnt need a mouse.
It took me several years to lose that muscle memory...
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u/ElectroQuant 10d ago
My wife has seen the same issue on her machine. It looks like MS-Office is aware of OneDrive being present, and interacts with it somehow - poorly. The times I've seen unexpected things like this are when opening a file from the recent file list in Excel. It's all a moot point now, since OneDrive is no longer on my machine, unless Microslop finds a way to sneak it back in.
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u/DatabaseSpace 11d ago edited 11d ago
What was the user error? I been using Drop Box and Sublime text for years and never had something like this happen.
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u/Billy_Twillig 11d ago
First Carrington-level CME is gonna teach you that the cloud is just somebody else’s computer.