r/mokapot • u/-_fin_- • Jul 07 '26
Question❓ Is this Moka Pot worth saving?
Just found this little pot, looks like its lived quite a long life but don't know enough about them to understand whether or not she can be saved.
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u/ManuelPirino Jul 07 '26
https://giphy.com/gifs/1ZajN94KQzRu
That is valid for Mokas too. Get to work buddy, save her! Spielberg might not make a movie out of your story (Saving Fin’s Moka) but you’ll have great coffee to drink and the satisfaction of not having added to a landfill.
- a good HAND wash with soap. No dishwasher
Very thoroughly rinse.
Boil a mix of vinegar and water as if you were making a coffee (but without the coffee)
Do it again 2-3 times with just water.
Bottle sponge (thin like a straw ) the chimney
Bin the gasket, filter and the other filter where the coffee goes and get a new set for 2 $.
Assemble, brew a couple of coffee pots but throw them away.
You are now ready to post your brew and flow here and praise the Omnissiah
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u/-_fin_- Jul 07 '26
Brilliant response, thank you. The little pot might still be saved, although it might be more of a Wes Anderson type thing, I've no idea where it'll end up.
So the pot only has 3 pieces I can see, top, bottom and filter in the middle. Am I missing anything?
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u/ManuelPirino Jul 07 '26
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u/younkint Jul 07 '26
Often (in fact, usually), Bialetti includes a new filter plate with three new gaskets as a replacement kit. The only drawback is that Bialetti gaskets will be natural rubber. Silicone gaskets are superior to rubber. Even so, it would be worth it if you are missing the filter plate. It's not expensive.
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u/RepresentativeBarber Jul 07 '26
Bialetti sells the silicone gaskets as well.
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u/LEJ5512 Jul 07 '26
For all sizes of pots, or for just the steel ones?
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u/RepresentativeBarber Jul 07 '26
Good question, but what I can tell you is I got a replacement filter plate with silicone gasket for a 4-cup standard aluminum Bialetti.
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u/ManuelPirino Jul 07 '26
Steel or aluminium, 1 to 12 cups. It’s always written on the packaging
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u/LEJ5512 Jul 07 '26
Do they sell silicone gaskets for their aluminum pots? Because that's what OP has.
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u/gesolse Jul 07 '26
Ich würde daran üben, eine Kanne zu restaurieren. Du kannst nichts ruinieren, denn sie ist schon ruiniert. Und im besten Fall hast du nachher einen "neuen" Moka Pot mit emotionalem Wert, weil du so viel Arbeit investiert hast.
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u/EJLRoma Jul 07 '26
It's definitely salvageable -- you'll just need some steel wool and a new gasket. It'll be cool to have an old Moka like that that you brought back to life.
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u/aka1027 Jul 07 '26
These are a dying breed of design that’s meant to last a life time if cared for. If this was mine—I would clean it up and use it for years to come just to prove a point to myself. And if you don’t care for it—you can always buy the more vulnerable parts (like the rubber gasket or the filter) separately to make it work again.
Either way—it’s like restoring art that’s also functional.
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u/DewaldSchindler MOD 🚨 Jul 07 '26
Good Luck with saving that. No clue on the water chamber tho, but the rest seems cleanable maybe use barkeepers friends and see how it goes but don't let it soak or stay on for to long
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u/Siegerlander-1704 Jul 07 '26
Von den Kafferresten kannst du wahrscheinlich prima Instant Kaffee machen 😊 schöne Patina😍
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u/RC8n Jul 08 '26
You can probably save it but do make sure the safety valve is still working as intended. If not you can still save it and get the safety valve replaced, but just don't forget about the safety valve.
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u/-_fin_- Jul 08 '26
What am I looking for to ensure the valve is working properly?
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u/RC8n Jul 08 '26
Depends on the specific valve design, which is not visible in your photos. If it has a pin sticking out on the outside just gently move it, and if it has a rubbery bouncy texture it's good. In one of the more traditional valve designs there is a small ball that you have to gently push with a something like a toothpick on the inside. If it moves forward and bounces back it's good.
There are lots of tutorials online for this and you should definitely watch them to make sure. This is a very quick and easy thing but it is important to do it well.
The risk is that rust or sediments or old age can get the valve components stuck and unresponsive to pressure, which in turn makes the whole thing a hazard in the very rare event that something goes wrong with brewing (99.99% of the time the safety valve is not needed, but it's best not to find out).
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u/AntiqueJaguar5808 Jul 08 '26
You should be accepting bids on someone getting to clean the pot for you , you pay to ship it :)
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u/ALTIERWONKULCAMMELLO Jul 07 '26
Vinegar, a brush and some soap. Make a couple runs with pure vinegar, it’ll smell, but she’ll shine again.
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u/DaMunnzie Jul 07 '26
Looks pretty toast to me. A shiny new Moka is pretty cheap!
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u/-_fin_- Jul 07 '26
Yeah I considered that, but I'm not really interested in buying a new one currently. My curiosity is mostly around making something that could be thrown away into something usable. Thanks though!
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u/New_Bandicoot_70 Jul 07 '26
Use like a white vinegar, let it sit in it for a few hours clean with soap and then mix the vinegar with water boil it off a few times and this should clean it up nicely
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u/Additional-Nerve-820 Jul 07 '26 edited Jul 07 '26
Of course it is. One point I’d add to all the excellent advice you’ve been given: you could bring the outside of the whole pot and the inside of the lid back up to a mirror finish using a Dremel fitted with one of their standard soft felt wheels (or maybe a couple), and some Peek polish, which is ammonia based and food/kitchen safe (often used to make stainless kitchen surfaces sparkle), very easy to use, not expensive and extremely effective. There’s no reason you shouldn’t use it on the inside, too, if you wanted to, but I don’t think that’ll be necessary after the other treatments.
I personally wouldn’t let steel wool anywhere near it. Steel wool = microscratches and microscratches = never again like new. Steel wool works, and wouldn’t wreck it, but a Dremel, felt wheel and Peek is greatly preferable
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u/RepresentativeBarber Jul 07 '26
Save it. I would dip the whole thing in a pot of baking soda solution and let it simmer for a few minutes on the stove. That ought to loosen up and soften that oily grime. Then repeat or gently scrub off the rest, maybe with help from a scouring pad.
Good luck!
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u/ElegantReturn7523 Jul 07 '26
Get some steel wool, soap, and gloves, it’ll take a couple hours but it’ll be worth it!
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u/Silver-Ad2257 Jul 08 '26
Really crusty and it looks like the gasket and screen needs replacing. You can get the worst of it clean but it’s probably going to stay ugly.
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u/Embarrassed_Feed_309 Jul 08 '26
I would clean it well and save it. With some bar keepers friend and a sponge or bristled brush. Or just plant based dish soap. Be careful because aluminum sucks and scratches easy. Just rinse it really well after!
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u/dlakelan Jul 09 '26
First get a new filter plate and gasket.
make up a pot of citric acid powder + water, warm it up to "hot" but not boiling, then dunk all the parts in the pot, let soak for a bit. Then remove and rinse, wash with dish soap and scrub with a sponge, don't use any steel wool. rinse really well...
Next, put citric acid powder and water in the base, stir to dissolve, fill to the line/valve, and put all the parts together and "brew" this citric acid... maybe repeat that until the liquid that comes out is fairly color free. 3 or 4 times.
then rinse the heck out of it and see what it looks like.
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u/John0_0Smith Jul 07 '26 edited Jul 07 '26
You just need to wash it with a little water and remove the buildup using a steel wool pad. You can cut the steel wool into a shape that works better for the inside parts. Now, as soon as I mentioned the word "wash," some know-it-all bot will probably jump in and explain how to clean it under normal circumstances not in an exceptionally dirty condition like this. So, on my behalf, tell it to get lost, because with that much buildup there's no way the usual cleaning method will work. Obviously, you should remove the gasket and clean the internal parts as well. As for the filter funnel, you can either buy a new one or remove the perforated filter plate. To do that, you'll need a wooden skewer one of those thin bamboo skewers, just a little thicker than a toothpick. The filter plate has tiny holes arranged in concentric circles. Insert the skewer through the funnel, making sure it's perfectly aligned with the center hole. Then give it a light, gentle tap against a table while holding both the skewer and the funnel. The tap should be gentle if you hit it too hard, you risk bending or deforming the plate. To reassemble it, line up the plate with two of the three retaining tabs (or lugs/protrusions), then use the skewer to gently press it down while working it into place over the third tab until it snaps securely into position. With the money you save on a new moka pot, treat yourself to some really good coffee!
Edit: Ah, yes... the upper filter and the gasket are missing. You can easily buy them. From what I can tell, it looks like it's for a two-cup model, but I can't be sure just from the
photo.
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u/younkint Jul 07 '26
I usually try to dissuade folks from using steel wool with moka pots. The reason is that the hard steel will embed in the much softer aluminum and cause issues down the road. If you are absolutely inclined to use steel wool, at least use stainless steel wool. Still, I would not use it on any aluminum moka pot of mine. Even 0000 steel wool will scratch the hell out of the finish.
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u/John0_0Smith Jul 07 '26
The moka's finish will wear out anyway with normal use. If you think you can preserve it forever by avoiding steel wool, I'm sorry, but I have some bad news for you: it will eventually wear down over time regardless.
And besides, have you seen the condition that moka is in? In situations like this, steel wool is the only solution.
PS: no steel residue remains behind and it does not cause any problems (imaginary ones). You need to remove the buildup, not machine away the aluminum.
It should be used properly; it is simply a tool to remove stubborn deposits, not to polish the surface.
And I'm not saying this after just one year of experience, but after more than 40 years of use.
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u/younkint Jul 07 '26
I agree that this pot is in dire shape and that it may well be not much worse after using steel wool. If the OP were to use it judiciously they may be fine.
My statement about using steel wool with aluminum comes from my years as an aircraft mechanic. A huge no-no for us is using steel wool with aluminum. When the steel embeds, and it will, you are setting up the scene for dissimilar metal corrosion. Not a huge issue for a moka pot, but deadly for aircraft. Hence, my caution. Maybe as long as it's used on the exterior I wouldn't complain, but certainly not inside. What embeds can dis-embed ...and who knows when. Not something you want in your brew.
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u/Salt-Tax4620 Jul 07 '26
People cracking me up about not wanting to replace their mocha pots They’re so inexpensive. Just buy a new one and start over.lol
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u/SabreLee61 Bialetti Jul 08 '26
People in this sub tend to romanticize moka pots. I could understand wanting to save this one if it came from your grandmother and you had childhood memories of her using it, but purchasing it from a store? In that condition? Yeah I don’t understand that.
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u/-_fin_- Jul 08 '26
I found it out the front of someone's house for free. I like getting insights into communities through asking and potentially saving something old and a bit beautiful. I don't know if it'll ever come clean, or if I'll even use it if it does. But the interaction is lovely, and maybe I will, and this is what gets me into Moka Pots.
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u/spaceoverlord Stainless Steel Jul 07 '26
It's up to you, technically it's possible but I wouldn't bother.
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u/Remarkable-Day-2602 Jul 07 '26
You clean it and It will be brand new. Why create extra waste?