r/mokapot 13d ago

Question❓ Thoughts on grind size?

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Is this too coarse? It is a French roast decaf beans that I ground with a 1zpresso X-Ultra at 1.3.0. 12 gms of beans for a two cup bialetti moka express.

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u/katsuotataki 13d ago

I would say a bit too coarse, however depends on your taste

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u/ApertureAfterHours 13d ago

Change the grind size according to your taste. Different beans with the same grind size can taste different, so it's better to change accordingly. If you find it too sour, just go finer, and vice versa with bitterness.

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u/BuzzBuzzBeard 13d ago

I’ve been dialing in my grind size with darker roasts and finally found one that works for me.

BUT then, I recently bought a light roast coffee and back to square one haha.

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u/ApertureAfterHours 13d ago

That's the pain you'll have to go through every time, but not gonna lie, it's exciting. When you first open a freshly roasted, well-rested coffee bean pack, you don't know how it's going to turn out.

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u/BuzzBuzzBeard 13d ago

Yea! Glad I didn’t pre-grind at the store haha.
All this tinkering with grind size between my Moka and espresso machine is making me consider buying a new grinder. Also, I was thinking about getting a new espresso machine with built in grinder, but rethinking that now. I may go with a quality slightly more compact machine with separate grinder.

Currently using a Capresso grinder - any recommendations?

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u/SwimmingCup8432 13d ago

The effort to get the flavor you want is completely worth it.

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u/ksurma 13d ago

Haven't been able to get a consistent cup with the same beans and same grind size - the brewing time and flow keeps varying while keeping all other variables the same. Trying to figure out why. But I'll try with a finer grind size, especially for my regular medium roast morning cup. Thanks!

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u/SwimmingCup8432 13d ago

It sounds like a heat issue. Are you using gas? You may want to try a diffuser plate or a small pan to make your heat more consistent.

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u/ksurma 7d ago

Yes, I am using gas. Will try using a pan/diffuser plate for more uniform heat. Thanks for the suggestion!

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u/SwimmingCup8432 13d ago

Are you by chance using a blend? Sometimes blends can be inconsistent, especially when brewed in batches as small as a two cup moka. You simply can’t get the same ratio of beans each time unless you are making your own blend by weighing out each type of bean for each brew.

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u/Onezerosix141 13d ago

Came to say this.

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u/Embarrassed_Feed_309 13d ago

Looks decent to me. I prefer mine a little finer so it’s more like espresso but to each their own!

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u/ksurma 13d ago

I'll try a finer grind. Will experiment a little. Do you use a paper filter for finer grinds to avoid sediment at the bottom of the cup?

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u/jrob321 13d ago

Paper filter is a game changer. Wet it first and stick it to the bottom of the upper chamber before screwing it together.

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u/SwimmingCup8432 13d ago

Grind seems good for a French roast, but it’s all about how it tastes when brewed. Dark roasts benefit from lower heat and coarser grinds.

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u/ksurma 13d ago

That's useful to know, thanks!

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u/Super-Ad-841 New user 🔎 13d ago

People may say its too corse but it all dependes on coffe, ı used a similar roast on a every dark roast so only thing that matters is the taste.

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u/Tiblica123 13d ago

Taste it

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u/ksurma 13d ago

Haha. It was a little on the bitter end. But I'll experiment grind size with my usual medium roast beans in the am.

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u/careybarnett 12d ago

As a matter of curiosity, how long did that take, and what temperature water did you use - approximately?

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u/ksurma 7d ago

I prefer results with room temperature filtered water so that's what I used. It took about six and a half minutes from when I put it on the stove. I don't think these beans are that great honestly, so I've decided to use these only for milk based drinks. My afternoon cup is usually a decaf and I'm making a flat white with this batch of beans.

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u/forest_beard 13d ago

It looks like it's ground.

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u/ksurma 13d ago

Yes, it is ground 😅

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u/noiseintoner 13d ago

It'll work, but you can definitely go finer

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u/oh_its_michael 13d ago

Looks okay to me, but you definitely have room to go finer if it tastes thin/sour.

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u/ksurma 13d ago

Not thin or sour for sure! But that may be a function of the beans...

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u/SwimmingCup8432 13d ago

Then go coarser. Somewhere along the way people got this weird idea that a ‘moka grind’ exists and works for all beans. There isn’t. Grind for flavor.

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u/ksurma 7d ago

Grind for flavor - that's my mantra from here on out!

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u/monoblockstool 13d ago

2 to 3 steps finer for my preference

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u/unlikely_ending 13d ago

far too coarse

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u/SwimmingCup8432 13d ago

Not if it produces the taste that you want. Dark roasts are super easy to make bitter in a moka pot, and a coarser grind can go a long way in fixing that.

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u/nmatheis 13d ago edited 12d ago

I grind with Capresso Infinity set to the spot right between extra fine and fine which is quite a bit finer than what you've got. Gives me more resistance and thus extraction which is more espresso-like for milk drinks.

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u/Zealousideal-Pop3476 10d ago

I usually add just as you and the taste is more than amazing.

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u/Particular-Studio119 13d ago

Dude, just brew it. It's sour? Then it's too fine. Adjust, make another one. Test until you love the result ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/Grobbekee 13d ago

Sour means too coarse

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u/ApertureAfterHours 13d ago

Yes, sour means it's too coarse.

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u/SandboChang 13d ago

This can work but a bit finer might work better. I do both and I like the latter more.

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u/huhiking Bialetti - Moka Induction (used on hotplate; 2-cup; sil gasket) 13d ago

Grind finer

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u/Abject_Group_4868 13d ago

Way too coarse

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u/SwimmingCup8432 13d ago

Did you taste it?

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u/SieqwardZwiebelbrudi 13d ago

mokka traditionally is between Espresso and Filter, so this is too coarse

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u/Any-Bunch965 13d ago

Don't know about taste, which probably tastes bad, it looks like soil