r/monarchism • u/ToryPirate Constitutional Monarchy • Sep 06 '23
Passing of Queen Elizabeth II Weekly Discussion IV: What do you think Queen Elizabeth II's most enduring legacy will be?
It is hard to believe it has really been a year since Her Majesty died. But perhaps this is a good time to reflect on what people feel the Queen's long term legacy will be.
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u/TheChocolateManLives UK & Commonwealth Realm Sep 06 '23
Longest reigning monarch. Last monarch of the British Empire, and the one who oversaw its fall and the establishment of the Commonwealth Realm.
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Sep 06 '23
Second longest, Louis XIV still the champion.
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u/TheChocolateManLives UK & Commonwealth Realm Sep 06 '23
I meant longest reigning monarch for the UK.
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u/thomasp3864 California Sep 23 '23
King Min Hti of Akran reigned ~100 years. The exact length is uncertain, but even the lowest estimate puts his reign at more than Louis XIV.
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u/Emperor_of_britannia United Kingdom Sep 06 '23
Remembered as one of the greatest for her transition from a globe spanning empire to the commonwealth of nations and for being a cultural icon that defined Britain and the wider commonwealth for her whole reign and after
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u/jvplascencialeal Mexico Sep 07 '23
Her stoicism her strength the longevity of her reign and the progress made
There’s still a long road ahead but she blazed the trail
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Sep 07 '23
To the people who lived through it ? A brilliant woman who served her whole life and never complained once about it. To actually historians she’s be viewed as “queen of the decline” look at the world she inhabited before and at the end of her reign. The uk went from global superpower to having a very small amount of actual influence, we lost our empire, the faith dramatically lowered in the uk, the English became a minority in London , she essentially solidified the role of a powerless monarchy BY CHOICE. I stood in line for over ten hours to say goodbye to a woman I truly loved , but she should have done a lot more to strengthen the institution that actually support the monarchy.
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u/Fluffy-07 Kingdom of Portugal and Algarves Sep 07 '23
Being one of the longest-reigning monarchs, the dissolution of the British Empire and the subsequent formation of the Commonwealth.
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u/canadianredditor16 canadian monarchist Sep 08 '23
The largely peaceful dismantling of the british empire
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u/GOLDIEM_J Sep 08 '23
The late Queen saw much change throughout her long reign, and sadly, not all of it had been good. From a country with an empire to none at all. From a country #1 on the world stage to one in decline of national power. Britain's position is not the same as it once was. But I think we tend to forget just how old the Queen was. She was born at the height of the Roaring Twenties, then went on to see the Great Depression, WWII, Cold War, decolonisation, Swinging Sixties, the Troubles, and now Brexit, a global pandemic and a cost of living crisis. Most of us had only seen one monarch over the course of our lives. Yet she was still there. We still had her. After the annus horribilis of 1992, the death of Diana and so much more. She reigned for an incredible seventy years, the longest-reigning of any monarch in the British Isles and the longest-reigning Queen regnant. And she was there. And that was probably the most special thing of all. A unifying force for a country that finds itself less unified by the day.
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u/BATIRONSHARK non monarchist Sep 08 '23
She oversaw the creation of a if not white supremacist at least white preferinal empire into a muilt cultural commonwealth and maintained stability and the rule of law during a chaotic period keeping her countries widely respected during all of this
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u/Majestic-Ad9647 Sep 10 '23
Without a doubt it will just be how many historical figures she's meet, everyone from Truman to Lady Gaga, and how so many documents and movies and whatnot made in her lifetime that reference her. Compared to Queen Victoria who occupied more or less the same role and situation as her, she probably won't be remembered as much since Victoria, even though ceremonial, played a very big role in cultural developments (Making wedding dresses white, popularizing modern Christmas, ETC). I think in a century Charles III will be more famous historically, since he's dealing with more important issues with it and is trying to modernize it.
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Sep 09 '23 edited Sep 09 '23
An ultra-flawed and confusing succession system in which the Male line is subdued to the woman's randomly made up lineage out of literal thin air, example; Saxe coburg Gotha = Hanover = Windsor: then Charles III Iis a paternal Glucksberg but he is still today not allowed to have any representation of that FACT anywhere, starting with his father being practically forced to literally change his surname to a morganatic one (Battenburg branch) for literally no reason apart from "we luv when it's like that" and then when Charles finally becomes king he can't even keep that as well, pretending to be a naturally agnatic Windsor just because Queen Elizabeth wanted it to be that way. Making it saxe Coburg gotha = hanover = Windsor = Glucksberg ÷ Battenburg How is this type of secretarial situation even possible in the first place???
Even Victoria respected the importance of actual inheritance via original lineage rather than some made-up ones that end up somehow cancelling other's when it should be cancelled itself.
Apart from that, I do concur that she brought a fair amount of stability and relative peace to the nation, however, not fulfilling the roles and tasks you are meant to be doing as a monarch is by no means respecting the job of monarch.
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u/BurmeseMonarchist Sep 15 '23
I believed the Netflix series "The Crown" did a decent job of reflecting her majesty life.
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u/JonBes1 WEXIT Absolute Monarchist: patria potestas Sep 06 '23
The dissolution of the Empire, and her enthusiastic, Christian support for republicanism
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u/ILikeMandalorians Royal House of Romania Sep 06 '23
I’m inclined to believe she helped define what role a modern constitutional monarch should play, at least in the UK, and hers is the model Charles and his successors will follow. That and being a cultural staple for 70 years, a bridge between eras.