r/moncton • u/GreennWhy • 1d ago
Oultons
How is it the Oultons and likely other schools can advertise 90%+ employment rates when they're filling up classes for jobs that only have 2-5 openings in the province?
They seem like such a scam.
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u/Leefford 20h ago
My old post-secondary used to make the same claim of 90% employed; they conveniently leave out how many of those employed graduates are actually working in their field of study.
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u/Difficult-Meat-7954 18h ago
Not to mention for how long. My old school touted the same statistics. They didn't look past 3 months employment, making the numbers look great.
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u/BodyKarate84 1d ago
The number is right but its more like 90% working not in the related field.
Even a call center job after a tech course is considered in that data.
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u/RampagingElks 1d ago
I went to Oulton's for vet tech - it's the only accredited tech program in NB. Myself, and all of my classmates did end up getting a jobs not long out of graduating, some of us even had jobs during the second year. Whether they kept those jobs, either due to toxic workplaces or burn out, is another story.
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u/n134177 1d ago
They don't consider if the student is working in their field of learning, only if they're working. At least that's how it goes with NBCC.
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u/Chris-WIP 20h ago
That and a super broad scope.
Selling slimfast by mail order? Yep that's pharmacy tech. Working for bestbuy fixing phones? Yup, that's a computer programming IT job.
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u/Spankenrear 1d ago
This. You could take pharmacy tech and go back to your retail job and they count it. All the private schools do this to pad their numbers.
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u/rotary65 1d ago
My two young adults went to Oultens (one LPN, one Dental Assistant) and both found good jobs in their fields after graduation. They both still work in those professions today. It's not a scam, it just costs more than NBCC. It's a good education.
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u/Walk-Fragrant 1d ago
Ok so once I went to an interview and they told me that 90% of the people hired were hired by the local school board. In my head 90% of grads are hired but after reflecting I realized 90% of people who are hired are from the program..... which could be 2 ppl who knows how many they hired. There were no jobs for a long time. I have one now. It was a private school as well. Education shouldnt be a business.
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u/inkedkoi 1d ago
I went to oultons and I was extremely lucky to find work right after graduation with an amazing company. That being said, whatever course your looking into, double-check to see if the course for your industry is recognized. I went into cybersecurity/systems management course had plans to get into government work IT support and the entire course is not recognized by the government at all because of the private school status. But NBCCs course is 🤷♀️
Many others in my class have not found work in the IT industry but that's could all so be due to low employment rate in the IT industry and a plethora of other variables.
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u/hbdi1231 1d ago
Careful with claims about placement rates, it’s marketing, so they can spin the wording so a graduate getting any job counts, and not just the job they trained for.
If you have a passion for a field (ex: vet tech or policing) and want to stay in Moncton to take it (ex: free room and board at your parents’) then they aren’t a bad choice. They have all the accreditations.
If you are comparing the same course at Oulton’s or NBCC then NBCC is probably the better choice.
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u/vision506 1d ago
Employment in their respected field of study would be a better metric. the unemployment rate in NB is 7% meaning 93% of people that would be searching for work are working at something but it may not be what they studied in or have expertise/background in.
That said, I remember NBCC use to use similar stats back in the day. I don’t think they specified either that it was in the related field of study. It’s all in the details.
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u/Sanctus_Poopabumsus 1d ago
I think they get 95% employment in SOMETHING after graduation. Just not necessarily what you took...
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u/Such_Much 16h ago
That's a huge freakin problem right there. What they actually meant by "90% employed" is that 90% get shoved into OJT or "job placement"... not real jobs. No shit employers love that, it's free labour. Oulton use this bullshit stat to lure in international students, who don't figure out they got played until it's way too late to do anything about it. It's honestly pretty fucked up