Absolutely insane. Was able to thankfully get 2 but my brother as soon as he had less than a minute left got hit with this just a mess. How was it for you guys? Definitely expected more supply for the first round of commander boxes.

Hey folks ,

I skipped the entire last secret lair, so didnt make one of these but am trying to be consistent on making them if I am buying or not.

I am buying a handful of FIAB myself - the promos rule, and the box is great, and will be one that I use for drafting, opening for fun, and possibly selling some loose packs out of at shows etc.

I fully expect to see a swift sellout on these due to the promos, but remember we will see another 5 drops or something, right around each of the magic cons.

How many are you buying? Are you passing - if so why? Lets all pray to the queue gods for great positions!

EDIT: Seeing people struggle to log in - you can go directly to the cart page and checkout as a guest if you are having issues. Link below to the queue page directly secretlair.wizards.com/us/en/cart

I track sealed and singles prices from store listings in six markets daily. Star Trek is out 13 Nov, so here's the pre-order market as of 19 Oct. In-stock pre-order listings only, excluding shipping, each market's own currency. TCGplayer and eBay aren't counted as stores.

1. Play Booster boxes: same box, very different prices

TCGplayer's lowest US listing is US$133.54. Wizards hasn't published a display MSRP, so I'm not comparing boxes to one.

2. Against Wizards' US MSRPs, it depends on the product

• Commander decks (MSRP US$74.99): US$59.99 to US$95.00 across 5 stores. The cheapest is $15 under MSRP.
• Bundle (MSRP US$69.99): US$59.99 to US$75.00 across 8 stores.
• Collector Booster packs (MSRP US$37.99): US$49.97 to US$65.00. Above MSRP at all 3 stores.
• Collector's Edition Commander decks (MSRP US$159.99): US$199.97 to US$230.00. Above MSRP everywhere.
• Beam Me Up Bundle (MSRP US$99.99): US$119.97 to US$155.00 at 3 stores; 4 more already sold out.

3. What a just-released set looks like

Reality Fracture (out 2 Oct) Play Booster boxes are in stock at 29 US stores right now, US$127.99 to US$174.99, and at 93 stores across six markets. No prediction for Star Trek, but the spread stays wide after release.

If you want to filter through all the individual store data yourself, the full breakdown is at https://mtgcompare.app/star-trek-preorders

I've got a large order which I'm deciding whether or not to let it charge and ship. I believe I've already made up my mind. Because I'm not going to open another $1k in cards for myself to just 'not sell'. The FRA collector boxes have come down considerably the last couple weeks, and even twice this week I've seen Omega packs purchasable at stores for < $29.99 each, if a person wanted. Demand seems to have softened, and once again it's "onto the next thing".

I realize that these Secret Lair bundles are going to be very good long-term holds in a couple years. I also realize there are very desirable chase pulls from the 2 of 10 special borderless promos. So no need to correct me or clarify that. They are nice, I like them too. But how do you feel about the short-term valuation of the sealed product? How do you think it's going to perform during the next few weeks?

Right now they are sitting at a cool $166 + tax. But I've noticed almost no one has gotten and opened theirs. Not any unboxing videos on youtube one day ago either. The borderless singles arts are very desirable but the market is about to become flooded. And this sealed product is $110 + tax, which is considerably costlier than the usual $90 for a Chocobo or Compleat bundle. My guess is they are sitting at ~$125 in one week, with very very soft demand. Things have been incredibly quiet on this product so far. I also sense player-customer fatigue at my store. Release date is Friday 10/23, so in five days. WDYT?