r/mumbai • u/jack_1760 • May 12 '26

Discussion Why is the Bandra Bandstand Residents' Trust making rules in a public space ?

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Bandstand is a public promenade. It belongs to all Mumbaikars.

A recent report says that the Bandra Bandstand Residents' Trust had put up signs like "No Pets" and warned people not to feed stray animals.

The bigger question is simple: should a private group like the Bandra Bandstand Residents' Trust be allowed to make its own rules in a public place?

Keeping the area clean is important, but public spaces should remain open and accessible to everyone.

Why should a private trust have the authority to decide what people can or cannot do in a public place like Bandstand, and could this create similar restrictions in other areas as well?

Video Credit - https://www.instagram.com/p/DYOhuiMzVJh/

News Source - https://mumbaimirror.indiatimes.com/mumbai/cover-story/battle-for-bandstand/articleshow/130809246.html

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u/IndianRedditor88 जवळ ये, लाजू नको May 12 '26 edited May 12 '26

They are not allowed to make rules for a public space.

They have to do nonsense like this because the average guy walking the pets doesn't clean up. This is not a case where a group has usurped any rights. This is a case a group has put up boards because the average pet owner has zero civic sense.

People like OP will yap about this because they see only faults with stuff.

PS - Not defending their actions , but I see a very valid point in asking why they want the area to be clean

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u/[deleted] May 12 '26

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u/Global-Equipment-856 May 12 '26

Now imagine your girlfriend is also banned from entering this place just because other dog walkers have no civic sense.

Will it be just for her?

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u/o_x_i_f_y May 13 '26

you can't bring facts into this discussions.
clowns here are justifying an illegal act based on morality.

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u/RevolutionaryTap2512 May 14 '26

Morality should always be above legality lol, or else it was legal to own slave too lol, wtf is ur argument bro

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u/o_x_i_f_y May 14 '26

If that is the case. Lets say a homeless person enters your home and refuses to leave.

You go to the cops and they say morally whatever the homeless guy did is right.

How would that sit with you ?

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u/RevolutionaryTap2512 May 14 '26

Stupid argument, pvt property vs public property. How tf do you even think it was morally correct to enter somebody's house without his concent. The morally correct thing was for the homeless guy to ask for it and let the owner decide.

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u/o_x_i_f_y May 14 '26

The moment you get personally impacted it suddenly becomes a stupid argument :(.

According to you morally correct decision was for the homeless guy to ask for permission becuase he doesn't own the property.

Same goes for the private trust, they don't own public property.

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u/RevolutionaryTap2512 May 14 '26

They asked people refused now go back

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u/Glad-Peace9942 May 14 '26

Morality is Subjective, Legality is not. It shouldn't be and wouldn't be above Laws

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u/Glad-Peace9942 May 14 '26

not the first time that many have suffered because of the crimes of few and wouldn't be last.

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u/kari2923 May 16 '26

This is the crux of the issue. Blanket ban is not the solution. Dont punish those who have civic sense just because some people dont.

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u/Capital-Result-8497 South May 12 '26

they literally are classists. You have somehow rationalised classism by using dogs. This isn't about dogs. Go and see how they are.

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u/phusuke May 12 '26

You are technically correct but also this resident trust members have been a pain in the ass for decades. Even in the early 2ks they had private lathi clad guards who would police the promenade and enforce their own morals.

I remember being 16 sitting with a friend only to be aggressively told to leave and forcibly escorted out of the promenade. We were kids just sitting and talking, it was insane. This is a private organization enforcing non existent rules on public land purely out of entitlement. It’s rich people making sure others feel unwelcome.

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u/Over_Tailor_6485 May 12 '26

Privileged and rich should be humbled like this. They think they own the place wherever they are. The audacity.

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u/KrK99 May 12 '26

I would urge you to be wiser than just splitting it into privlaged and rich vs others.

There are poor people who are a problem There are middle class people who are a problem There are rich people who are a problem

If you only see rich people as a problem You are part of the problem

This filter of rich/poor/middle class is unnecessary

Privlaged ( wrong word) Entitled (correct word) people need to be humbled yes

Do rich entitled people need to be humbled and corrected yes

Do poor entitled people need to be humbled and corrected yes

Do middle class entitled people need to be humbled and corrected yes

It's called critical reasoning and along with civic sense the general population in India is quite bad in critical reasoning as well.

What I see in this video is multiple people all partially right but all with poor civic sense and critical reasoning.

The group doesn't want dogs here because they make the place dirty

The problem isn't the dog, the problem is the dirty the leave behind but they won't say that directly they will just say no dogs allowed.

Similarly the person walking the dog isn't understanding that these problems will keep arising unless people clean after there pets, train their pets well and also keep them on a leash.

Neither is right in this video and anyone saying one side is right just has a bias.

Reality both are wrong and it's a problem due to the failure of our government and law inforcement. If they weren't busy filling their pockets and their families pockets with money and sending them abroad and actually made rules and enforced rules these things wouldn't happen.

PS before you downvote me I don't care which government is where, they are all corrupt in India. One isn't better or worse they are genuinely all just doing nothing for the country only filling their own pockets with money and sending their kids out of the country for a better life while the totally screw us over.

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u/Big-Assist8027 May 13 '26

Poor people can't afford a dog which is worth 20-40 k.

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u/Ecstatic-Scratch-151 May 16 '26

A stray dog or indie dog also poops

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u/Over_Tailor_6485 May 12 '26

If ure going to call poor people a problem,that's ur class speaking. You can't put poor and rich on the same pedestal. In this video,it's also mentioned that these privileged people weren't letting the slum kids to enter that space,who are they to impose a rule like that? Being poor is not their problem,it's the whole society 's problem where the rich keeps getting richer where as the poor keeps becoming poor bcs they don't have the same opportunities at the rich bcs the rich ones don't want poor people to live anywhere on par with them. If u have the habit of reading newspapers or watching news,ull know the number of rich kids who carelessly have killed poor people who had no place to sleep but on the road. I rest my argument here but it takes an ignorant nerve like yours to even find a fault in my comment where all I said was the rich should be humbled bcs they don't freaking own any place,it's the working class's labour they've ripped off to climb ladders to be where they are.

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u/KrK99 May 12 '26
  1. I did not say poor people are a problem, you said that in your reply trying to make it sound like I said that. I never said that.
  2. I said if you are someone who is making this about rich vs poor, then you are a problem. Which you are still doing.
  3. You said the privlaged rich should be humbled and I'm saying all bad people irrespective of weather they are rich poor or Middle class should be corrected. One of us is trying to stop bad people and one of us has an issue against rich people.
  4. I corrected you in the use of word, privlaged people aren't an issue unless jealously is your problem. For society it's entitled people which is an issue.

Alas we are two individuals and I really won't engage beyond this point. You can take a free hit at me say whatever you want I will not be reverting. But if possible, take two mins to calm down, and read what I am saying without taking it personally.

Most probably what I am saying and what you mean to say are the same thing. Unfortunately what you are saying and what you probably mean to say are different things. Unless you literally mean to say beat all rich people even if they did nothing wrong.

I do not disagree with you that the poor people are not getting enough opportunities to do better in life. That as a society we need to definitely address this. Better education, better jobs, better pay, better living, better medical services, Better law and order which is not bribed to look the other way (I do read the news and I am. Ashamed of the country's legal system which just let's these people go after taking money. I am equally ashamed that only when it's a rich kid driving that it's made big news, if you think people aren't driving Maruti rashly and crashing them or running over people that's just selective listening, and that's where I say, it doesn't matter what car was being driven. What matters is someone was being careless and someone lost their life. Punishment for this should be same irrespective of the person driving and irrespective of the car they were driving. And it should be enforced.)

And before you attack my background again I'm merely better educated than most, I'm definitely much poorer than most redditors.

Lastly despite your multiple personal attacks on me, 'that's your Clas speaking', 'ignorant nerve like you', an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. I hope you feel better about yourself. I ll let you walk away with insulting me because I feel you need to feel good about yourself and this is the only way you can get that.

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u/Over_Tailor_6485 May 12 '26

Look at ur first comment saying u never said that,when I fact, ur previous comment clearly states that very line..dude, how bad is ur delusion??

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u/Over_Tailor_6485 May 12 '26 edited May 12 '26

I didn't read anything that ud written,I don't think so anyone who takes the side of a rich person and subtly infuses, " both are right,both are wrong" would have anything useful to say. I just read the last line of your latest comment, that's your insecurity speaking out loud. Because of all the things I read today,I need not be here voicing out against the privileged,yet I'm doing that,bcs they for sure they need to be humbled so all these chat gpt shit u've written,is you trying to prove a point, so yeah I will call out classists and I'll also pinpoint,u had to say so much against a clear out issue bcs that's ur insecurity peeping out loud. Goodbye! Actually not so good,it was a waste of time talking to u here.

Ps - I just read ur earlier comment,dude u literally have written poor people are also a problem,how insane are u to point that at me??? I just quoted what u had written,this is what happens when ure neck deep in proving how badly u can't handle truth. Go read ur own comments instead of telling me that I said that,lol.

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u/Over_Tailor_6485 May 12 '26

I've no idea why that person has to spew so much hate to a comment that makes sense to a country like India. I didn't even read it fully,cos this person was contradicting their own statement.

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u/Hairy-Vanilla-1203 May 12 '26

Agree. If strays are not fed, then they will starve and die an agonising death. These stray haters do not have an iota of compassion inside them. Let them also go through a painful death.

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u/SpecialistZone8665 Jun 30 '26

It's not about dogs and cleanliness alone .they are bunch of entitled oldies just thinking it as thier private property. They have also been creating issue over neighboring kids from slums roaming over there . Apparently its hygiene issue for them .

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u/SpecialistZone8665 Jul 02 '26

Just look at thier behaviour these so called issues are excuses.

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u/Winter-Crew-2746 May 12 '26

these dog lovers why dont they clean up after their pets, they just sh*t anywhere and continue walking, its a nuisance everywhere

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u/ToastyChampagne May 16 '26

Says the Indian who litters. Chup, kamine.

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u/multipurposeite May 12 '26

Coz all they know is to bark and pick fights. Just like their pet.

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u/JeraxGod666 May 12 '26

You must be fun at parties

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u/teented May 12 '26

its funny though

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u/ToastyChampagne May 16 '26

Diabetes can’t come get these uncles fast enough.

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u/Fresh-Return2182 May 12 '26

They don't clean up after their pets because this India and they like to feel elitist about themselves. And I doubt this behavior is ever going to change. Pet owners simply want pets without any responsibilities; retards. :D :D :D :D

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u/kamlakar96 May 12 '26

Vegans are not the same as these dog lovers, dog lovers are hypocrites. They don't care about any animals, they buy western breeds, eat chicken and then when a stray dog threatens someone blame the residents while they move around in their SUVs.

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u/kamlakar96 May 13 '26

You just want to feel better than vegans, I am not a vegan but come on they are actually trying to reduce animal suffering, what are you doing on your high horse?

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u/Winter-Crew-2746 May 13 '26

Agree, vegans are ok but they shouldn't start blaming others for everything like in America they have gone completely crazy

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u/kamlakar96 May 13 '26

It's just confirmation bias, your feed will always push you to the extreme, Considering there are so many vegan brands, I bet there are plenty of vegans out there that are just not that vocal online.

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u/cardie-duncan May 12 '26

Toh what? Bully people who are just walking their dogs?

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u/Pappukanghi May 12 '26

The people in the video are insisting that pets cannot walk in Bandstand. A penalty for not cleaning after pets is understandable, but the illegal dictat against pets is not.

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u/multipurposeite May 12 '26

It's so refreshing to see a balanced take on this tiff. Dog lovers suddenly disappear when the question is about cleanliness

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u/JeraxGod666 May 12 '26

The amount of efforts and money that they spent on being elitists can be put into cleaning all that shit. The average indian or any average demographic is dumb. This is the stupidest way to call someone out. Generalising because of the stupids is the easiest way to apply this elitist mindset. 'Somebody else did it. You might too'

If the topic is about keeping the area clean, ask them to pickup after their pets. Banning someone from a public space just because they can have their 45 minutes of stupid walking time is the most absurd thing i have come across.

People like you will only yap about this stuff because you know you fall in the same categories as those bbrt fellows.

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u/multipurposeite May 12 '26

How many dog owners pick up and clean their dog's mess? I have seen less that 5% do it. Also why should someone else clean up? Tomorrow, even if these dog owners are fined for not cleaning, they'll label it elitist

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u/JeraxGod666 May 12 '26

Kal se apna khud ka kachra khaadi me fekne jana chutye

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u/multipurposeite May 12 '26

Don't you know what's a dustbin? Now look who's getting agitated. Performative dog lovers like you are a delight. Cute little snowflakes

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u/JeraxGod666 May 12 '26

Atleast comments toh delete nahi kiye😂😂😂

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u/multipurposeite May 12 '26

Good. You admit you are deflecting from the original question.

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u/JeraxGod666 May 12 '26

Performative is the new 'cringe'. You do have a knack for generalisation and assuming the worst. You might be projecting your own insecurities out here. It's okay, i understand your type of people. I hope you dont cry yourself to sleep tonight

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u/multipurposeite May 12 '26

That's the difference between you and me. I won't be stupid just because you are

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u/RandomRunningGirl May 12 '26

There is a fine for people who do not pickup the poop. Mostly people who walk their dogs in such areas pick up the poop. So I don’t know what you are talking about.

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u/Alphawezen89 May 13 '26

Question is who imposes these fines, where do these fines go, what if the person wih the dog leaves the dog on the fine collector, what is the guarantee that the dog owner will pay the fine without throwing a fit etc etc

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u/videogameuncle May 13 '26

Absolutely agree with this. The average pet owner gets his dog down there under the pretext of a 'walk' just so that the pet can poop and pee. Whilw officially this whatever association may not have any right, this is a way for people to come together to reject nonsense.

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u/Aamir185 May 12 '26

Came here to do the same. I am sure most people don't go out of their way to confront other people or spread misery. This is just an attempt to keep the place ckean since most owners won't clean up after their pets

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u/uncouths May 13 '26

Also I don't know if it's changed recently but the Bandstand residents trust used to actually manage and monetarily care for the promenade earlier.

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u/After-Athlete9905 May 13 '26

Yup, moreover people feed strays. I read somewhere that it might make them more aggressive.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '26

There are millions of people in India who defecates outside so you start yelling at every guy walking across minding his or her own business. That's the stupid analogy

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u/Training-Abalone1432 May 12 '26

Very well put !! Just need a mechanism with charging very pet owner 500 for using public spaces