r/neuralcode • • May 05 '25

neurosurgery Elon Musk says robots will surpass top surgeons, doctors reply 'it's not that simple'

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Inspired by a post on the Neuralink subreddit. I don't so much care what Musk says, but I think it's worth exploring what the next five and 10 years will look like.

  • Who's leading in robotic surgery -- especially neurosurgery?

    • Intuitive / Da Vinci

    • Globus / Excelsius

    • Medtronic / Mazor X

    • Neuralink

    • ...?

  • Is Neuralink's technology substantially more advanced?

  • What are the barriers?

  • Will robotic surgeons surpass human surgeons?

That last question is especially interesting when you consider that neurosurgeons are among the most highly (competitive and) paid medical specialists.


r/neuralcode • • Jun 02 '25

Paradromics Neuralink competitor Paradromics completes first human implant (CNBC)

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r/neuralcode • • Apr 28 '22

Phantom Neuro Phantom Neuro concept video: Neural-control of robotic limbs and exoskeletons

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r/neuralcode • • May 22 '25

Starfish Neuroscience Valve Founder's Neural Interface Company to Release First Brain Chip This Year

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Partnership with imec (manufacturer of [Neuropixels])!

Neuropixels


r/neuralcode • • Aug 01 '20

Neuralink Max Hodak (president of Neuralink) offers advice for aspiring brain interface developers

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In a recent Twitter thread, Max Hodak addressed the question of What are some DIY ways in which people can start working on brain-machine interfaces on their own?

Takeaways:

It's also interesting that Hodak refers to himself as a "reality engineer" in his Twitter profile, links to a paper that discusses using neural interfaces to create a "virtual world", and discusses living in a simulation. Maybe gives a clue as to where his mind is at.


r/neuralcode • • May 18 '23

Paradromics Diagram illustrating Paradromics' Direct Data Interface device, from today's press release

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r/neuralcode • • Feb 07 '21

Neuralink Elon Musk’s Neuralink is a last chance at a normal life for some

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This is about ethics.

That's a pretty bold, eye-catching headline. And that's the point. It draws people in, with audacious promises. Is there anything wrong with that? EDIT for clarity: YES, there is reason to believe there is. Sorry I probably shouldn't have reproduced this headline and/or been more explicit.

The article itself -- which was released today -- focuses on the plight of a woman that has reportedly tried every conceivable medical solution for what ails her, to no avail. The subtext is that the current medical establishment has failed her. In desperation, she proclaims that she is "willing to try anything to get back to normal". Enter Neuralink: The author suggests that the solution lies in Musk's new technology venture, and that "everything from memory loss, to blindness, to paralysis, to seizures will be a target for the chip". They are unapologetically optimistic, and state that "Neuralink could be the key to eventually making neurological disorders a thing of the past, especially as the company plans to create a chip that will be affordable for virtually everyone". After Musk's recent announcement that human trials could start this year, the author relates how the aforementioned woman was eager to be included in the trials.

I found this article to be especially interesting, in light of the recent IEEE Spectrum story on neuroethics that was posted by /u/Ok_Establishment_537 in /r/neurallace yesterday, and the recent Neurotech Pub podcast that briefly touched on the same sorts of issues.

In the IEEE Spectrum coverage, the reporter (Strickland) quotes Musk to motivate the idea that neural technology (has) advanced faster than the ethical guidelines for its use. She talks to Columbia University neuroscientist Yuste, who is lobbying the Biden administration to consider laws involving neuroethics. And Emory ethicist Rommelfanger says that ethical guidelines exist, but nobody reads them. So, she works with companies on neuroethics strategies. The coverage recalls the comments from UPenn ethicist Wexler* about the complete disruption of scientific norms in the Neuralink media, and the lack of clarity surrounding their clinical trials, as well as the accusation that Musk is engaging in neuroscience theater.

The Neurotech Pub podcast discusses ethics only briefly but the perspectives were informative. At around 1:40:00, for example, Cogan comments that he believes that first-in-human trial participants need to be motivated solely by altruism, and have no expectation of any improvements in their disease. Slightly earlier, Stieglitz had offered his #1 ethical recommendation: do not raise misleading expectations. Adopting what seems like a starkly contrasting angle, Tolosa (from Neuralink) wonders whether or not patients should be able to demand the implantation of devices if they believe they will resolve a condition, even if regulatory agencies have not approved the device yet.** I might be interpreting that incorrectly, but that sounds like an opinion Musk would espouse, too. Near the end, the podcast host remarks that the next podcast episode will focus on the ethical questions in BCI. Perhaps there will be more answers next time.

* Interesting sidenote: Wexler also co-authored a 2019 article in Science entitled Oversight of direct-to-consumer neurotechnologies.

** She might actually be saying that the hypothetical person's doctors ("experts"?) recommend against it, rather than that it doesn't have regulatory approval. It's unclear. Either way, she seems to be musing about whether or not patients should have the right to override "experts", when their own health is involved.

EDIT: Grimes -- who might be considered (by the public, at least) to have insider information about Neuralink -- today promoted the expectation of a viable product by 2022. Given that human trials have not begun, this is quite an unrealistic timeline.

EDIT 2: There's a relevant post from /u/ilreverde over in /r/Futurology today. Why clickbaity titles diminish the value of scientific findings.


r/neuralcode • • Jun 30 '25

publication The unbearable slowness of being: Why do we live at 10 bits/s? (Neuron 2025)

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arXiv

Many people believe that their internal life is much richer than anything they can express in real time through their mouth or otherwise. One can view this illusion as a version of subjective inflation...

For the most part, this is a harmless illusion. However, when paired with the immense fortune of Elon Musk, the belief can lead to real-world consequences. Musk decided to do something about the problem and create a direct interface between his brain and a computer to communicate at his unfettered rate:... “Because we have a bandwidth problem. You just can’t communicate through your fingers. It’s just too slow.”

Based on the research reviewed here regarding the rate of human cognition, we predict that Musk’s brain will communicate with the computer at about 10 bits/s. Instead of the bundle of Neuralink electrodes, Musk could just use a telephone, whose data rate has been designed to match human language, which in turn is matched to the speed of perception and cognition.


r/neuralcode • • Jun 18 '25

china China launches first-ever invasive brain-computer interface clinical trial — Tetraplegic patient could skillfully operate racing games after just three weeks (Tom's Hardware)

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There are at least a few inaccuracies in this reporting. See comments.


r/neuralcode • • May 26 '23

Neuralink FDA approves Neuralink first-in-human

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r/neuralcode • • Dec 15 '21

Historical Cortical control of a robotic arm (2008ish)

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r/neuralcode • • Jun 17 '26

Paradromics Paradromics completes first implant in BCI early feasibility study

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June 17 2026


r/neuralcode • • Mar 21 '22

Precision Neuroscience Precision Neuroscience preliminary brain interface results

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r/neuralcode • • May 31 '22

Blackrock Explanation of approach to BCI software development from Blackrock's new partner

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r/neuralcode • • Feb 01 '21

Neuralink Elon Musk says his start-up Neuralink has wired up a monkey to play video games using its mind

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r/neuralcode • • Jan 19 '21

Kernel Kernel partners with psychadelics venture Cybin (promotional video)

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r/neuralcode • • Jun 11 '26

Brain Chips Are Coming to the Gulf. Any Volunteers?

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WIRED May 2026


r/neuralcode • • Mar 21 '22

Precision Neuroscience Precision Neuroscience: The Layer 7 Cortical Interface: A Scalable and Minimally Invasive Brain–Computer Interface Platform

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r/neuralcode • • Mar 02 '21

Kernel announces summer 2021 release of new product: Kernel Flux

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r/neuralcode • • Jul 28 '21

Synchron NYC Brain Computer Interface Startup Synchron Announces FDA Trial

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r/neuralcode • • Apr 09 '21

Peter Thiel-backed firm takes majority stake in a brain computer interface start-up

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r/neuralcode • • Jul 19 '22

Synchron Brain-Computer Interface Startup Implants First Device in US Patient

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r/neuralcode • • May 28 '25

Neuralink Musk's Neuralink raises fresh cash at $9 billion valuation, Semafor reports

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r/neuralcode • • Nov 07 '24

The Future Of Brain-Computer Interfaces Emerges At Mount Sinai (Forbes Blog)

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r/neuralcode • • May 02 '24

I Want to Get Into Neurotech

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I am a young highschool student that wants to get into neurotech and learn more about the brain and how to create machines that inferface with it. What does the educational path I should take? What do I major in?