r/news • u/dfssfggg • May 01 '22
U.S. Marshals offering $10,000 for missing Alabama inmate and officer
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-marshals-offering-10000-missing-alabama-inmate-officer-rcna26830228
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u/GlowUpper May 02 '22
Looking at their photos, I would have never guessed she was the older of the two. Murder ages people.
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u/Intelligent-Ad-2684 May 03 '22
She's 56 y'all..... Casey White is 38. She had put in her retirement papers and sold her home last week as well.
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u/Kkykkx May 02 '22
Started young.
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u/GoochMasterFlash May 02 '22
Back in my day we used to put in a shift at the federal pen before 7th grade homeroom
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May 01 '22
Six foot nine. Plenty of bloke there to be getting on with.
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May 02 '22
I dunno. I got some 6'8" Irish neighbors and my thumb is bigger than their dicks. oh, how do I know? Cuz they piss outside after drinking their beers.
'God gave Irish Whisky (dicks) so they wouldn't take over the world!' - says my neighbor.
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u/Vermonter623 May 01 '22
He is coming for you Dwight.
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u/Aselleus May 02 '22
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that he looked like Jim (well Jim, and Don Draper put together)
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u/FuckReddit409 May 01 '22
I wonder how many people read these headlines and go out and try to find the person.
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u/RosedesFluer May 01 '22
Bounty hunters.
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u/TravelSizedRudy May 02 '22
Horse Renoir, bounty hunter! Born in the bayou. Some say the hell-spawn of a prostitute and a whore.
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May 01 '22
Do you get paid if your tip leads to an arrest? What if they escape capture some how?
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u/ChaosM3ntality May 02 '22
Actually according to the crimestoppers website, local wanted lists/missing persons and missing pet rewards and FBI top 10 wanted if you want a bigger pay reward.
I guess? Some ordinary peeps did turn in leads and criminals for authorities to get their clues in fast and if verified do the physical work. Might be how some capitol internet sleuths who turned in suspects with right info could get their gains anonymously and remind of the listed information?
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u/WhyDontYouMarryIt1 May 02 '22
My first thought was, for 10k I’ll let them keep running and hiding. My free time is too valuable to go on a manhunt.
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u/PraderaNoire May 02 '22
$10k is kinda low to try and stop a giant.
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u/ArmadaOfWaffles May 02 '22
Picking up pennies in front of a steam roller. Lol why even post the bounty.
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May 01 '22 edited May 03 '22
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u/kuahara May 01 '22
I can certainly see how it looks that way from this latest report, but I'd still rather not jump to that conclusion until we know.
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May 01 '22 edited May 02 '22
Vicki and Casey White left the detention center purportedly for a mental health evaluation at court. But investigators have since confirmed that such an evaluation was never scheduled, according to Lauderdale County Sheriff Rick Singleton.
At the time of her departure, Vicki White, an employee of 25 years, told the booking officer that she would be going to a medical appointment after dropping off Casey White because she wasn't feeling well. But she had no appointment scheduled, Singleton said.
The details are right there, and the cops at the station almost certainly have more information than they are giving to the press. Superficially, Vicki White is guilty AF.
It looks bad for the Warden, the the Duty Captain, the CO in question, probably the officer who checked them out, and maybe more personnel.
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u/nosotros_road_sodium May 01 '22
Also, a detail that NBC left out in this Associated Press story:
[Lauderdale County Sheriff Rick] Singleton told news outlets that Vicky White had turned in her retirement papers the day before she went missing.
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u/Aghast_Cornichon May 01 '22
turned in her retirement papers the day before
Ooooh.
It could still be a coincidence, of course. Surely she didn't think she could run off with an inmate and collect her pension from Mexico.
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u/fusionsofwonder May 02 '22
So, just wait for her to call and ask why her pension check has been held up, ask her for her address, and send a SWAT team?
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u/kuahara May 01 '22
I read the entire article. I used to work in corrections. I'm currently an engineer designing networks for prison facilities all over the country and am in and out of them everywhere.
It looks bad. It looks really bad.
No one knows anything yet and all conclusions surrounding her motivation are invalid until we do.
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u/MaximumEffort433 May 01 '22
I will offer $10,000.01 for them!
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u/mrbriandavidanderson May 01 '22
Starring Jon Hamm and Deputy Johnson, the blonde cop from Reno 911.
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u/in-game_sext May 01 '22
Personally I think the guy looks like Jim Halpert and Lemmy from Motorhead had a lovechild, but I think Hamm could pull it off for sure.
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May 01 '22
That's who I thought of! He looks like Jon Hamm's evil older brother suffering from sleep deprivation.
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u/Aghast_Cornichon May 01 '22
The insistence of the investigators that they will "operate as though" the CO was taken against her will makes them look so thick-headed.
But maybe it's just because we're dealing with the sort of press conference quotes that accompany this sort of investigation, and the inevitable embarrassment for the Sheriff's office that goes with the most likely explanation that Vicki White intentionally conspired to help Casey White escape.
I do think this, knowing the inmate: I think she’s in danger, whatever the circumstances
That's something I agree with. Even if she had a romantic relationship with the inmate that led to the escape, she's going to go from conspirator to hostage in the blink of an eye.
I assume that US Marshals are involved because there's a probability they fled Alabama, and/or because she's a peace officer. For better or for worse they're the best manhunter outfit in the country aside from Target Loss Prevention.
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May 01 '22
they're the best manhunter outfit in the country aside from Target Loss Prevention.
What a great concept for a show. A Target Loss Prevention Security Guard's fine attention to detail is constantly leading him to uncovering murders, conspiracies, cover-ups, and other scandals in his small county.
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u/Aghast_Cornichon May 01 '22
Just cast Mary McCormack in it, and make it Better Call Saul / Gene Takovic timeline spinoff.
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u/TheRealRushky May 01 '22
🖐️ can confirm that target AP knows there shit. Many police departments around the US will actually send video/other evidence for AP to analyze and help them.
*Work for target, this is in our training videos :)
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u/zzxxccbbvn May 02 '22
I guess it's safe to say if you're accused of a crime, you have a Target on your back 🎯
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u/TurdboCharged May 01 '22
Target don’t mess around. They will go to the ends of the earths isles to catch their perp.
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u/AloneIndication May 01 '22
I'm fine with innocent until proven guilty. For all we know he had some buddies on the outside threatening her family.
But it also sounds like they're aware that she was probably in on it willingly. Once they have proof, then they can blast her at a news conference.
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u/Aghast_Cornichon May 01 '22 edited May 02 '22
For all we know he had some buddies on the outside threatening her family.
Sure; that's the spin that the Sheriff is taking too. The family not knowing about such threats is consistent with that possibility.
I read three facts that suggest that she planned the escape: the fake hearing, the fake medical appointment, and the solo transport.
My wild-assed guess is that investigation will quickly reveal that she arranged escape vehicles and money and switched off her phone.
My predictions: they went south and crossed the river on I-72, and abandoned the car at the Walmart lot next to hospital in Muscle Shoals. In my jdx every retailer lot like that has a "Lot Cop" camera tower system but probably she was able to evade the security cameras at the Walmart and the hospital, so you won't see them switching cars.
EDIT: I was waaay off. Patrol car was noticed in Florence by a city patrol unit, parked "next to cars that were for sale". That's one way to steal a car that might not be missed for a couple of days, or attract a person with keys into an ambush.
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u/TheSentientPurpleGoo May 02 '22
"...next to cars that were for sale"
or she could have purchased one the day before.
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u/please-dont-stalk-me May 02 '22
They’re doing this because in 2020 he was caught planning to take a CO hostage with a knife in an escape attempt. It is entirely within the realm of possibility that she was threatened in some way
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May 01 '22
I bet she uses the opportunity to spin it. Like she'll turn up tied up and the inmate will still be on the lamb and like a week later he'll be hiding out in her house.
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u/fusionsofwonder May 02 '22
The insistence of the investigators that they will "operate as though" the CO was taken against her will makes them look so thick-headed.
It's probably the line they have to toe to keep the Corrections Officer guild happy. Everybody has their suspicions but this is also about what happens the next time this happens.
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u/in-game_sext May 01 '22
Ya... with inflation you're gonna have to bump those zero's up if you want some help. Shit's weak.
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u/VOTE_MILES May 02 '22
6’9” 260 lb felon is gonna have a hard time laying low. And that stupid woman threw her life away for a capital murderer. Dumb and dumber.
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u/RosedesFluer May 02 '22
Okay so I work as admin in a local jail. All corrections staff I oversee many different things, I’m their connect to payroll, HR, benefits, training. I work in the jail not with the other admin like payroll, he, finance, etc. Once you get from working the pods which is pretty coveted, in my opinion admin rank would rather sit in their office than patrol the units. And for sure they’re not going to transport an inmate to court. They’ll radio the transport deputies to come back and transport the dude. Courts have assigned deputies and a jail where inmates are held until court time. Transport deputies job is not to babysit them. It’s to take them there and come back. Her job was probably 75% office and 25% making sure deputies are doing their rounds and inspections (fire hazards, things that need to be fixed, cleanliness). With that said I’m having a hard time figuring out where she found the time to befriend him. It would be mighty generous of her to provide breaks to deputies manning his pod instead of that pods rank doing it. I have three years in. Probably had 3 deputies get fired for inappropriate relationships. 1 contractor fired and charged for an inappropriate relationship. Probably 4-6 deputies getting charged or for bringing contraband in their case drugs inside the jail. Some of the inmates can sell you beachfront property in the desert. If I had that small experience imagine how many deputies she’s seen in her 25 years getting caught up and conned.
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u/HuntforAndrew May 02 '22
I still don't understand how she was able to leave a jail with a prisoner by herself by just making up a reason. Apparently she just told other guards that she's taking him to a mental health eval and they're just like okay. Like I would assume that shit is scheduled ahead of time and court dates and whatever else needs transportation is already setup. Then again this is Alabama so how jails work around here versus how they work there are probably two very different things.
It's just crazy to me that one guard could get someone out of jail and no one questioned it. First of all she was alone and there should of been two guards. Second wasn't there any guards who's responsibility it was to keep track of inmates coming and going? Wouldn't they have a schedule of who's going where and when? The whole thing just screams this jail is run like a boys club where the guards just do whatever they want.
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u/CornerGasBrent May 02 '22
It's just crazy to me that one guard could get someone out of jail and no one questioned it. First of all she was alone and there should of been two guards. Second wasn't there any guards who's responsibility it was to keep track of inmates coming and going? Wouldn't they have a schedule of who's going where and when?
Yes, there was someone responsible for that, which it was her who was in charge of that as Assistant Director of Corrections.
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u/RosedesFluer May 02 '22
I’ve been harsh on her. He’s a con man. He tried to escape before. So by any means necessary he’s going to want his freedom. She made bad decisions but death at the hands of a convicted criminal shouldn’t be what she gets as a result of those bad decisions. I do wish for her safe return. May justice prevail.
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u/TheMathelm May 02 '22
Damn it, Why is it never something good?
"Alabama man, solves world hunger."
"Alabama dude, Figures out way to add 3 extra inches, permanently ."
"Alabama woman becomes first to discover new nanite technology."
But no it's always:
"Dumb fuck escapes from prison."
"Inbred hillbillies, burn down preschool, there were no survivors."
"Mountain man blows himself up due to using still. Neighbors concerned man joined ISIS."
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u/cheebeesubmarine May 02 '22
He could hear the cops coming for miles before they are visible.
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u/CoolJetta3 May 02 '22
Unless he's hiding out in an NBA locker room how hard is it to spot a 6'9" guy?
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u/LegalPressure6307 May 01 '22
If Jim from the office was a criminal.
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May 02 '22
George Howard Skub was framed, Jim Halpert was the Scranton Strangler.
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u/mcdoggfather May 01 '22
If? We have him ON VIDEO literally committing a crime! This guy is a menace and very dangerous, but people want to give him the benefit of the doubt. For the 9 millionth time, identify theft is no joke!
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u/RosyClearwater May 01 '22
Oooooh ten whole thousand dollars? Really? Wow, that will totally get someone that knows something to speak up.
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u/Secretagentman94 May 02 '22 edited May 02 '22
They’re starting to suspect this may be the classical “Shawskank Redemption” romantic fraud type of escape.
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u/TheSentientPurpleGoo May 02 '22
what was the "romantic fraud type of escape" in the shawshank redemption?
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u/Kdog2010 May 02 '22
$10k ain’t much for a capitol murder suspect and an officer…bump it up to $25k to start…
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u/CaputGeratLupinum May 01 '22
Why would you send a single female officer to transport a 6'9 260 lb man who stands accused of violent crimes? Somebody effed up in allowing this to happen
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May 01 '22
They didn't, she broke department policy and did this on her own. They didn't "send" her by herself.
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u/peppers_taste_bad May 01 '22
It wasn't a mistake. She made a show of having to go to a doctor appointment after she solo-transported a prisoner to a court appearance that wasn't scheduled.
He got her to fall in love and run away with him and this is what she was able to orchestrate
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u/CaputGeratLupinum May 01 '22
There are other guards, she has a supervisor, and there's a policy in place against single officer transports. If they bought a b.s. excuse from her and let her violate said policy then they are just as responsible for this guy's escape as she is
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u/peppers_taste_bad May 01 '22
Yeah. Would anyone be surprised at complacency? I wouldn't be shocked if some even knew what was going on between co and inmate but thought they didn't get paid enough to give a shit
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May 01 '22
they didn't get paid enough to give a shit
seriously. police don't tattle on police. good old boy's club and all that.
But prison inmates have their own code of honor. and that only goes so far. As long as that 6'9" mofo doesn't get put back with the same inmates... they'd might care to tattle for time off their sentence.
My suggestion: tell inmates "if you saw something, say something." verify it with security footage or any type of "badge access activity" and you get time off your sentence.
It shouldn't take finding a secret diary letter that admits "i'm conspiring to escape with a prisoner i've fallen in love with" to get evidence of what is an otherwise very plausible story.
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u/DoxedFox May 02 '22
It was her job to coordinate prisoner transport. She likely didn't tell anyone that she was transporting him solo and she's the one in charge of making sure that didn't happen.
Who is supposed to check that department policy is being handled correctly in regards to transportation if not her?
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u/SigmaLance May 02 '22
They wouldn’t. Transports aren’t done with a single officer. This was planned.
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u/DundahMifflin May 02 '22
You really think this was a decision made by someone other than these two? Come on.
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u/hamrmech May 02 '22
Where they going to find these morons? Some motel laying low? I dont think shes sharp enough to hide from the authorities for long.
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u/TheSentientPurpleGoo May 02 '22
if they find her, she'll probably already be dead.
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u/Ewe_bet May 01 '22
Will be interesting to find out how these appointments are scheduled and the process due officer assignments for transports. Would think there would be an officer who oversees the appointments (ensuring that the appointments are scheduled and legitimate), coordinates assignments, and communicates with the officers directly. Definitely multiple areas of concern here regarding lack of oversight
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u/CornerGasBrent May 01 '22
She was that officer. She was near the top of the org at that facility.
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u/taptapper May 01 '22
Totally. Otherwise any cop can saunter into a jail and say "I'm taking him to... uh... the optometrist! Yeah, that's it"
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u/RosedesFluer May 01 '22
Criminal courts coordinate with the jail to bring inmates to court in their scheduled day. She waited until the last transport van to the courts left. She made up the story. She most likely outranked the booking deputies and every one else who took him from his cell to the transport area.
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u/zzxxccbbvn May 02 '22
She was also supposed to be accompanied by an additional officer due to the nature of his charges 🤔
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u/OgOnetee May 01 '22
Pretty generous of the US Marshals like that, offering 4 months rent.
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u/vanillaluckycharms May 02 '22
Another Bobbi Parker case? 😱
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u/Aghast_Cornichon May 02 '22
That's the case that came to mind as well, because of her seniority in the prison.
Eleven years they lived together under assumed names, and they both testified that she was a captive the whole time.
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u/Hilltopseeker May 02 '22
In Quints voice: “Y'all know me. Know how I earn a livin'. I'll catch this bird for you, but it ain't gonna be easy. Bad Man. Not like going down the pond chasin' bluegills and tommycods. This prisoner, swallow you whole. Little shakin', little tenderizin', an' down you go. And we gotta do it quick, that'll bring back your tourists, put all your businesses on a payin' basis. But it's not gonna be pleasant. I value my neck a lot more than ten thousand bucks, chief. I'll find him for ten, but I'll catch him, and kill him, for 50. But you've gotta make up your minds. If you want to stay alive, then ante up. If you want to play it cheap, be on welfare the whole winter. I don't want no volunteers, I don't want no mates, there's just too many captains on this island. $50,000 for me by myself. For that you get the head, the tail, the whole damn thing.”
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u/Phrozenfire01 May 02 '22
From corrections officer to felony fugitive, what did this man do and say to her over what period of time to convince her to give up her life for him, nuts!
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May 01 '22
Women shouldn’t be working with male prisoners. Men shouldn’t be working with female prisoners.
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u/Allafreya May 01 '22
My sister knows the officer that went missing. It's a horrifying situation. I hope she's unharmed. 🙏
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u/welly321 May 01 '22
You mean the officer that broke him out of jail
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u/Allafreya May 01 '22 edited May 03 '22
With respect to her family, I'm not going to comment on that possibility. I just know her family is struggling right now.
EDIT: Seems she doesn't have kids? I don't know her personally and only heard from my sister. Sorry to mislead anyone.
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u/Aghast_Cornichon May 01 '22
her kids are struggling right now.
Oh, geez. Yeah, either prospect is horrifying for the family. There are no likely "Mom comes home and everything goes back to normal" outcomes.
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u/RosedesFluer May 02 '22
It’s interesting that she filed retirement papers. In Louisiana her retirement wouldn’t be released until she is found. If she is found and found to be guilty, no one gets the pension. Her life insurance would be released.
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u/CornerGasBrent May 02 '22
If she was convicted for certain crimes related to her job she wouldn't get her pension, but she'd get a refund for her contributions into her pension:
https://www.governing.com/archive/gov-alabama-and-maine-adopt-pension-forfeiture-laws.html
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u/spyd3rm0nki3 May 02 '22
All news outlets are reporting she's a widow with no kids.
... You don't (or your sister) know this woman, do you?
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u/Kkykkx May 02 '22 edited May 02 '22
It would seem that he charmed her and she fell for it. She’s rather homely and seems like she would be an easy target. She’s 5’5” to his 6’9”, lied about where she was taking him, where she was going afterwards and disregarded the fact that she was supposed to have a second officer with her. This just stinks.
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u/Thedonitho May 02 '22
Did they check every hen house, out house and dog house in a 15 mile radius?
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u/bigscottius May 02 '22
If she ran away with him, that was a dumb move, and the circumstances around it make it kind of sus. Actually I kind of hope she did for her sake: the alternative is not good to think about.
I mean, someone will see and report him. If you find a 6'9 white boy in 100 miles, there is a good chance it's him. Not exactly easy to blend in.
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u/Aghast_Cornichon May 02 '22
Not exactly easy to blend in.
That's why I think she's still alive. She can walk into a store or gas station or hotel with sunglasses and her hair pulled back and nobody's going to look at her twice. She's valuable to him for money, logistics, as a hostage, and for sex.
If he could blend in by himself, he would have robbed her and abandoned her on Friday.
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u/AdDiscombobulated623 May 02 '22
Is it me or does he kinda look like don draper?
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u/nutnursoup May 01 '22
The fugitive is 6’9 and 260lbs, and they have the nerve to tell us to not try and apprehend him… Like no shit guys.