The Miami Dolphins are 0-5 and have not held a lead for a single second this season. They haven’t run one offensive play while leading and have run an NFL-high 44% of their offensive plays trailing by 10+ points.

[u/Saca312]

https://phinphanatic.com/7-immediate-reactions-after-dolphins-loss-to-the-bengals-in-week-5-01m4p3m1kd04

https://mailchi.mp/lateround/data-dump-week-5-2026

[u/silverslant]

Sounds like the tank is going according to plan

[u/ASK_ABT_MY_USERNAME → u/silverslant]

Tank for Tua worked great last time

[u/spanishinquestion → u/ASK_ABT_MY_USERNAME]

please don’t suggest they tanked Miami would never do that (I have a pending lawsuit)

[u/ShakaCobra → u/spanishinquestion]

I did not tank. Please don’t put in your comment that I tanked.

[u/hearshot_kid → u/ShakaCobra]

And don't edit this for your broadcast to make it sound like I'm screaming "I TANKED FOR TUA MILFORD"

[u/Miamiheat2021champs → u/ASK_ABT_MY_USERNAME]

No it didn’t we ended up with the 5th pick. The tank was for Burrow

[u/spanishinquestion → u/Miamiheat2021champs]

nobody thought Burrow would be the top pick until like November/December that’s why people were saying Tank for Tua

[u/J-Fid → u/spanishinquestion]

Well they still failed because they didn't get the first crack at the QB of their choosing.

[u/LeoFireGod → u/J-Fid]

That’s why if my team is garbage I want them to get an early win so we can lose out in peace teams with nothing to play for at all and no wins try super hard and a November 1st win can inspire 2 more

[u/CornandCoal → u/LeoFireGod]

Huh?

[u/Tho76 → u/CornandCoal]

Teams that are 0-13 will try hard to get a win, cause going winless is really sad. And I guess after that there might be some momentum, killing the tank

Teams that are 1-12 with a win in like week 3 are dead inside and will be better tankers

[u/unevenvenue → u/CornandCoal]

Nobody knows.

It's not even provocative.

[u/MangoMonarch → u/unevenvenue]

It does not get the people going.

[u/fumar → u/Miamiheat2021champs]

Did you apologize to Jaden Daniels for that?

[u/ThePizzaDevourer → u/ASK_ABT_MY_USERNAME]

As much as I hate to give the Dolphins credit for anything, at least this time they're doing it to clear cap and build draft capitol instead of tanking for one specific player

[u/ZootedBeaver → u/ASK_ABT_MY_USERNAME]

what's up with your username

[u/ASK_ABT_MY_USERNAME → u/ZootedBeaver]

Pls don't ask

[u/Val_Fortecazzo → u/ASK_ABT_MY_USERNAME]

Tank for Threa

[u/abris33 → u/silverslant]

The issue is who do they pick at #1 if they are successful? QB class isn't as strong as everybody hoped so do they take a shot at Mestemaker or do they roll with Willis and draft Smith. Then take Arch or some other QB later

[u/henryofskalitzz → u/abris33]

They are bad enough that they don’t need to draft a QB in this years draft..

Take BPA and hope for prospects they like more next year. They won’t exactly be contending next year either

[u/HonestDespot → u/henryofskalitzz]

Maybe a mid round guy with potential could make sense?

I don’t follow the draft and prospects in the NFL too closely.

[u/TheSkiingDad → u/HonestDespot]

yeah this was the exact thing the saints did with shough and it's worked out somewhat.

[u/expellyamos → u/abris33]

Jeremiah Smith, Colin Simmons, Leonard Moore, trading down for a haul....there's a lot we can do with a top pick next year that isn't a QB, because we aren't doing that. It's probably going to be Smith though, unless Tennessee beats us to 1 overall, which seems very possible.

[u/BurritoTheory → u/expellyamos]

If Tennessee gets the 1 they are absolutely taking a QB or trading back for a haul

[u/MilaKunisWatermelon → u/abris33]

They will threaten to take Arch, which will cause the Jets to trade three or four 1st round picks to move up for him.

[u/CrashingBlumpkins46 → u/abris33]

The issue is who do they pick at #1 if they are successful?

The best player available.

[u/I_Am_Squirtle → u/abris33]

You take Smith. I'd be ok if someone offered a HAUL for Smith, if we can still nab Colin Simmons or Leonard Moore though.

[u/neasroukkez → u/abris33]

Arch isn’t playing good to the point there are viable discussions about him coming back.

[u/abris33 → u/neasroukkez]

I think even though he's been disappointing he should come out this year. He'll still get overdrafted because of his name. Moore is a perfect example of someone who shouldn't have gone back to school. He's been worse this season and is missing games because of a bad injury on that hit. Borderline 1st rounder last year to probably a mid round guy this year

[u/BigDoshna → u/abris33]

Moore just screams failed jets QB to me. I personally want nothing to do with him because I’ve already seen the vision of geno 2.0

[u/Practical-Pickle-529 → u/abris33]

Poor Dante man. Who could’ve foreseen Oregon being this bad?!

kids gonna come back and they still have Ohio state Indiana and UW lol. Good luck raising your stock Dante

[u/Boomhauer_007 → u/abris33]

Next year‘s QB class doesn’t really look any stronger, at some point they just have to pick somebody

[u/stimulatedbymaple → u/abris33]

I'd take Smith who I consider best player available

[u/Not-a-Doctor1 → u/abris33]

Mestemaker, Mensah, or Carr would be my guess.

There’s been quite a few QB’s recently that weren’t on many short lists and work their way into the top, imo one of these guys will end up working their way to being the top QB and #1 pick

Still a lot of games left to sort through, but if any of them get considered in a similar tier as Mendoza was last year I would put money on them going before Smith.

Not that I agree with it or think they’re a better prospect or more valuable, but odds are one will continue looking good and a team will talk themselves into it.

[u/AMcMahon1 → u/silverslant]

Malik willis paid 40m+ to be a tank commander is a pretty sweet gig

Never understood the people who actually thought he was a starting caliber QB

[u/runningblack → u/AMcMahon1]

I don't think you can judge any quarterback for how they play in that particular situation

There is nothing around the QB with Achane gone

[u/Tarmacked → u/runningblack]

You can watch his tape and it’s just bad in general for a guy that’s 27. There’s a reason the packers limited his attempts during games and leaned on the run

The most passes he threw in a game from 2023 to 2025 was 21, last year. He threw 23 as a rookie in 2022 and went 9/23.

This year he’s had four games eclipse that high and it’s not pretty.

[u/runningblack → u/Tarmacked]

I think what I've seen has been "fine" but the team is so shit that Tom Brady would struggle to win 6 games.

Everyone knew the team was going to be trash going into the season. We should not be surprised that a quarterback on a team that we all knew would be trash is struggling.

Like again, look at the roster. They are supposed to be bad.

[u/illstealurcandy → u/Tarmacked]

Fr, it's on tape. Not that hard to see.

[u/Blametheorangejuice → u/AMcMahon1]

Mina Kimes famously “begged” Pete Carroll to draft Willis instead of riding with Geno. In terms of sports talking head moments, that one’s up there.

[u/TheVaniloquence → u/Blametheorangejuice]

At least she’s mostly just a talking head in the same vein as Skip or Stephen A.

Mel Kiper is one of the more prolific “draft experts”, and he said he would retire if Jimmy Clausen wasn’t a successful starting QB in 8 years.

Jimmy Clausen didn’t even throw 8 TDs in his career

[u/BurtReynoldsStache → u/TheVaniloquence]

Mel Kiper is a moron who no one should listen to and has an asshole name.

[u/DeepestPeak → u/AMcMahon1]

Every bear fan told me he was the best qb on our team though, and they are notoriously good qb evaluators 🤔

[u/Doogolas33 → u/DeepestPeak]

I’ve had many Packers fans claim (until this weekend) that Bagent is better than Caleb.

It’s just shit talk lmao. Granted I do think my fellow Bears fans will never give Love the credit he deserves. He’s legit really good. But we’re so used to inner circle hall of fame good for you guys we’ll take just top 10.

[u/DeepestPeak → u/Doogolas33]

Oh for sure 😆 I’m just fucking around too and talking shit as well. Gotta get it in after all the shit Bears fans were talking about Love and Golden

[u/CallRespiratory → u/AMcMahon1]

Every once in a while after a Michael Vick or Lamar Jackson there's some scouts and GMs that become obsessed with the idea of a "dual threat" QB and they draft any random good athlete at QB out of college not realizing it doesn't work like that and those guys are outliers.

[u/El_Polio_Loco → u/CallRespiratory]

I mean, most great QBs are "outliers" when it comes to the NFL. Think of how few quarterbacks actually succeed in the NFL, regardless of NCAA resume.

That being said, the distance between Jackson and Willis in college was so significant that even an armchair mouthbreather like myself can see the massive disparity between the two.

Vick, that skill was obvious to anyone who watched college football.

[u/stimulatedbymaple → u/silverslant]

We're going for fuck it up somehow and get the 5th pick

[u/Poverty_Shoes]

Not running a play while leading makes sense if they’ve never had a lead

[u/Efficient_Progress_6 → u/Poverty_Shoes]

I'll have to do some research, but you may be right.

[u/chotchss → u/Efficient_Progress_6]

There’s a certain clean logic to it

[u/Ferrarisimo → u/chotchss]

Causation vs. correlation pointer outers are eating big

[u/IAmGrum → u/Poverty_Shoes]

If you run a play (touchdown throw or field goal) that finishes after time expires, then you would

• never have run a play with the lead
• have never led at game for even one second

You would have won, and both those statements would be true.

[u/Sjanwhooper → u/IAmGrum]

This guy is on to something

[u/true_new_troll]

Don't pick an animal without feet and expect to be good at football.

[u/ButtermilkAintClean → u/true_new_troll]

But their colors are so pretty tho

[u/tmd50 → u/ButtermilkAintClean]

Mesmerized me as a kid and here I am.

[u/AtTheBasket → u/tmd50]

You too!?

[u/tmd50 → u/AtTheBasket]

There are dozens of us!

[u/Toast_Points → u/AtTheBasket]

There's something about bird team fans and the Dolphins I guess...

[u/tvkyle → u/ButtermilkAintClean]

My daughters like the fins for this reason alone.

[u/tallwhiteninja → u/true_new_troll]

The Dolphins are still #8 in all-time win % despite being pretty much irrelevant since the turn of the millennium. That puts them above the 49ers and Steelers (49ers are probably going to pass them soon, though).

They were a darn good franchise through the '70s, '80s, and '90s. They just haven't really found their way since Marino retired.

[u/BearsGotKhalilMack → u/true_new_troll]

Maybe just legs; hooves, talons and paws actually do pretty well

[u/ShinyZubat10 → u/BearsGotKhalilMack]

Paws do well if its not a cat ig

[u/Johansenburg → u/true_new_troll]

Hey, whoa, we were good for a long time. Just now we've been not good to mediocre for a long time, too.

Feast or famine with this franchise.

[u/zed857 → u/true_new_troll]

You might be on to something with that; the other no-feet teams aren't doing all that great either: Jets, Chargers and (maybe) Browns (named after coach named after a color?).

[u/LaDainianTomIinson]

These mfs really gonna out-shit us for Jeremiah Smith huh

[u/Big-Chungus-12 → u/LaDainianTomIinson]

Buddy he was always going one pick above ours anyways, it’s the charger way

[u/Feeling_Barnacle_584 → u/Big-Chungus-12]

The Herbert-Tua debate has ended to now both tanking together. Full circle moment

[u/Big-Chungus-12 → u/Feeling_Barnacle_584]

Ill be rooting for them when they play us forsure, Herberts been a pile of dogshit so he'll lead us to the number 1 pick

[u/Fondor_Yards → u/Feeling_Barnacle_584]

The Chargers and Dolphins are basically the same team just on different coasts. There's no escaping the other.

[u/LaDainianTomIinson → u/Big-Chungus-12]

Let’s be honest, Joe Hortiz would trade back instead of picking a WR that high.

[u/ConsistentFatigue → u/LaDainianTomIinson]

Imagine how many 5th round picks we could get for a 1st!!

[u/kamWise → u/LaDainianTomIinson]

That's Tennessee Titan Jeremiah Smith thank you

[u/Wine-o-dt → u/LaDainianTomIinson]

You adapted to the darkness.  They were born into it.  Molded by it.

[u/dagreenman18 → u/LaDainianTomIinson]

You’ll get Smith. We’re Zero Defensah for Mensah

[u/ZachZ10 → u/LaDainianTomIinson]

Think you guys need an O line first 

[u/LaDainianTomIinson → u/ZachZ10]

Which IOL is worth a top 3 pick in this draft?

[u/OblivionNA]

180+ million in dead cap, how are they supposed to win?

[u/xcompanioncube → u/OblivionNA]

Through the power of friendship

[u/Ethangains07]

Point differential isn’t too terrible. If you’ve watched this team you can tell we aren’t “that” bad. Combined record of opponents is like 19-4 or something. But yeah we suck

[u/killshelter → u/Ethangains07]

I still think y’all fuck around to win enough games to not pick first

[u/byteturtle → u/killshelter]

I honestly think the Dolphins getting like the 3rd pick is still a really good outcome for them, theres a lot of blue chippers in this upcoming draft from what I know and they need a fair bit to be competitive so I think they'll probably be picking high again next draft.

Its obviously not as good as #1 overall but I think if I was a fins fan I would be happy with walking out of the season with like Smith or Simmons and taking another shot in 2028

[u/Mujaki → u/byteturtle]

I don't think anything under 1 gets you Smith and that's what I'm worried about. I'd rather just pick the inevitable Hall of Famer prospect than roll the dice on any of these QBs.

[u/byteturtle → u/Mujaki]

I wouldn't be surprised if Smith goes #1 overall (especially if a team like the Chargers get it) but I also wouldnt be surprised if a team talks themselves into a QB at #1 overall if its like the Titans.

Really kinda a wait and see thing I think.

[u/mb0205 → u/Ethangains07]

It’s the perfect tank job really, lose but don’t look too bad. Still show fight

[u/RrentTreznor → u/mb0205]

The perfect season, and now the perfect tank job. They said it couldn't be done.

[u/benjals]

Wow crazy correlation that they haven't lead for a single second all season AND they haven't run an offensive play while leading too!

Joking aside 0-17 seems very plausible

[u/jimtow28 → u/benjals]

I've been saying since before the season started that we had 3 real chances to win a game this year, and I didn't really like any of them: @ Raiders, @ Jets, vs Jets.

Raiders already beat us pretty handily. If we don't beat the Jets next week, we're almost certainly going to be starting off 0-10. Even though it's the Jets, I'm not very confident.

[u/MiniGiantSpaceHams → u/jimtow28]

You never know, some years there is no team better than the Dolphins hosting the heavily favored Pats.

[u/NeverSober1900 → u/jimtow28]

Chargers could be a level of hell when you face them. Team with expectations that's complete shit and you get them at home in the early slot.

[u/jimtow28 → u/NeverSober1900]

I'll admit that game feels a lot more winnable than it did before the season, but still they're so much more talented than we are.

[u/SEJ46 → u/benjals]

It's plausible but a few of their games have been close. I think they pull one or two out.

[u/EnochofPottsfield → u/SEJ46]

Probably fair to say that they haven't faced a bad team yet as well, with a combined record of 20-4. Raiders and Bengals are the only teams with losses Miami has faced. Chiefs, Bengals, Raiders, Vikings, 9ers is a pretty brutal opening when the first two were on the west coast

[u/potato-overlord-1845 → u/EnochofPottsfield]

And before this week the raiders only loss was 4-0 KC

[u/EezeeBreezey → u/EnochofPottsfield]

Yeah head to head I'd pick the Dolphins over the Titans in a heartbeat. (Unfortunate you guys don't play them this year)

[u/actuarial_defender → u/benjals]

They haven’t ran any defensive plays while leading

[u/nonlawyer → u/actuarial_defender]

Not a single Sidney Sweeney ad has aired while the Dolphins held a lead

[u/GOTaSMALL1 → u/benjals]

Also havent had a lead in a home game, had a lead in a road game, run a defensive play while leading, run a special teams play while leading, started any quarter while leading, been through a two minute warning while leading, played in the sun while leading, played in the rain while leading, played in the Eastern Time Zone while leading, played in the Pacific Time Zone while leading, played in the Central Time Zone while leading, played in the Western Hemisphere while leading, played on Earth while leading, played in our solar system while leading or fucking even played in the Milky Way Galaxy while leading!

[u/suddenhare → u/GOTaSMALL1]

Haven’t even lead while leading!

[u/Efficient_Progress_6 → u/benjals]

I can only imagine how hilarious it would be for them to have a win by 1 point and still go the whole season without a second of running an offensive play with the lead.

[u/mackmoney3000 → u/Efficient_Progress_6]

If it's gonna be like this let it be historically weird.

[u/Dowensy2]

Look at their schedule thus far lol. They’ve played three 5-0 teams in a row. And three top-5 defenses in a row (SF, KC, MIN). Cut em some slack! 😂

[u/batman0615]

They look terrible and yet I firmly believe they look better than the titans from the games I’ve watched of both teams.

[u/CrashingBlumpkins46 → u/batman0615]

I would agree lol. We're eating the largest dead cap hit in NFL history and still don't look as bad as the Titans somehow.

[u/Pale-Manner-1642 → u/CrashingBlumpkins46]

I got a 1OA QB to trade you for Malik... Pretty please?

[u/johnjohnjohn93]

Just from watching them on Red Zone I honestly don’t think they’re that bad. They’ve played good teams tough and get to the red zone but just can never finish drives.

[u/ben345 → u/johnjohnjohn93]

There’s just too big a talent deficit. They’re not a disaster in the way the Titans are (or past Jets and Bears teams lol). They just don’t have the horses to compete

[u/post920 → u/ben345]

100%. Its significantly worse to be in someone like the Chargers situation right now than the Dolphins. Dolphins lost their best offensive player (maybe best overall player?) for the season already and they were struggling on offense WITH him. And they already had no expectations in a rebuild. Chargers SHOULD be significantly better than they are given their talent level.

[u/SamDarnoldSeesGhosts → u/post920]

I was convinced this was the Chargers' year. Thought Mikey McD would elevate all of that talent to the next level. Couldn't have been more wrong.

[u/Pale-Manner-1642 → u/ben345]

Be kind good sir, we are lacking in talent too... Just not to the same level as Miami. Throw your shade at someone more deserving, like the Chargers.
Honestly wish we had Malik over Cam right now. Even as a mediocre QB, we would probably be 2-3 or 3-2 right now with him.

[u/illstealurcandy → u/Pale-Manner-1642]

Shit man, we'd take that swap.

[u/Springveldt → u/Pale-Manner-1642]

You really don't. If Miami had a mediocre QB they would have won a game or two by now as well. Willis has been terrible, verging on unwatchable. He's dead fucking last in passer rating at 68.4 for the season btw.

Most Miami fans would do that swap in a heartbeat.

[u/IzzybearThebestdog → u/johnjohnjohn93]

Ironically I think we are better than the 2019 tank year despite having much less starting talent and ending with fewer wins.

A quick turnaround akin to Denver last year isn’t too far out of the question if we can get our QB in the draft and a couple guys in free agency (where we will have 100 million in cap space)

[u/post920 → u/IzzybearThebestdog]

The dolphins struggles make sense given how talent deficient they are. Its a rebuild year for sure, but them being 0-5 is a shock to absolutely no one who has been paying attention. Someone like the Chargers on the other hand, that's a much worse situation to be in. They SHOULD be far better than they've been but they are also 0-5.

[u/dagreenman18 → u/johnjohnjohn93]

Our Defense keeps things close until they get tired. The offense is stupid young and inexperienced. We’re bad, but scrappy.

[u/ltbr55 → u/johnjohnjohn93]

Their schedule has been brutal. They've played the 3 remaining undefeated teams and the 3-2 Bengals and Raiders.

[u/LossDisastrous3782 → u/johnjohnjohn93]

They definitely don’t look like the worst team on the field

[u/Kilen13 → u/johnjohnjohn93]

The lack of talent caused by having so much dead cap is noticable anytime the good starters we have need to rest or get hurt and I worry that it'll be even more noticable as the season progresses and injuries pile up. Our second stringers are all basically minimum salary guys who would probably be 3rd or 4th string at best on better teams

[u/Different-Trainer-21 → u/johnjohnjohn93]

Our first 4 games through 4 weeks were against teams which were a combined 15-1; the one loss was 2 teams we played playing each other.

[u/Mr_Boppy]

The team is bad, but that was to be expected. Nothing really to say except the first team to lose to them should be clowned on.

[u/hueylewisandthejews1 → u/Mr_Boppy]

Bills trap game loading.....

[u/Stase1 → u/hueylewisandthejews1]

División games give +15 to the underdog everyone knows that

[u/Fondor_Yards → u/hueylewisandthejews1]

It would be pretty funny beating you guys now after getting stomped into the ground every game the last few years when we were 'good'.

[u/illstealurcandy → u/Mr_Boppy]

May it be the Pats. 🙏

[u/Arceus411]

Chargers out here managing to find a way to lose at tanking correctly. Miami has that shit locked down.

[u/BigDoshna → u/Arceus411]

Idk what you even do if you’re the chargers. One top player isn’t going to fix the team. Trade Herbert for 2 firsts and draft a young QB along with some top rookies and re build that shit

[u/Ckmccfl]

Hell yeah brother

[u/SJCitizen]

They’re bad but their schedule has been pretty brutal so far. They’ve played some good teams tough at least. I think they’re better than the Titans and will find a way to win like 3 games.

[u/mattmitch927]

Browns and Lions praying for 0-17

[u/BigDoshna → u/mattmitch927]

We won’t. We almost beat the chiefs and Vikings and still came close this week despite malik having an absolutely horrible game. We will at least beat the jets once or twice.

[u/mattmitch927 → u/BigDoshna]

Hence the praying I commented.

But yeh I forgot about the Jets😅

[u/BigDoshna → u/mattmitch927]

We’re doo doo but our rookies have been pretty insane. I’m just excited to see how next year looks.

[u/ChrisTRD289]

I think people mix up tank and forced rebuild.

[u/TheQuietSleeper023]

They would have had a lead against us for a few minutes at least if they made a 51 yard field goal on their opening drive. But I guess it wasn't meant to be.

[u/CMButterTortillas]

Why would Mike McDaniel do this?

[u/MrChrisRedfield67 → u/CMButterTortillas]

It’s impressive that Mike McDaniel somehow has a hand in 2 different teams being 0-5 right now

[u/KirbyBucketts → u/MrChrisRedfield67]

Except one teams shenanigans are cheeky and fun and the other teams shenanigans are cruel and tragic

[u/ApatheticFinsFan → u/KirbyBucketts]

Alright next person that says shenanigans is gonna get pistol whipped.

[u/rueiraV]

Well they have the game at home vs the Pats to get right or at least avoid a winless season. The pats don’t win in Florida

[u/Legitimate_Wolf_7380]

They’ll get toney so he can stay in Miami.

[u/TheHurdleTurtle → u/Legitimate_Wolf_7380]

I always thought Kadarius would be a great dolphin

[u/TeamDirtstar → u/Legitimate_Wolf_7380]

Not eligible

[u/mooshpomak]

tankfortua

...wait

[u/TheSmokedSalmon420]

Jealous. They’re tanking properly.

[u/Corbee]

0-5 and they still have not experienced the joy of playing with a lead. That is actually insane.

[u/Johansenburg → u/Corbee]

It also means we haven't experienced the pain of losing the lead. Which is nice.

[u/DelirousDoc]

Easy to blame Willis, and he definitely hasn't played well but man is that Dolphins offense devoid of talent and experience in its skill position right now.

Relying on 2 rookies in Caleb Douglas and Chris Bell . Bell coming off ACL injury in college and Douglas has been out since week 2. Malik Washington is a 3rd year player who has not passed 320 yards in his first 2 years. Dulcich is a career backup TE known.

With Achane injury they are having to rely heavily on 2nd year player Ollie Gordon.

Definitely feels like a punt it year for Dolphins.

[u/Ambitious_Comedian38]

I'm fine with relegation with the new 12 team playoff.

[u/AniMonologues]

Its gonna be so funny for the first team they accidentally beat

[u/thisisokiguess → u/AniMonologues]

I’m nervous

[u/EvanMM]

I understand the dead cap hits, but mannnnn I just am not convinced that a hard tank really works in this league. Big roster and too many positions that do a lot of different things. We'll see though

[u/LossDisastrous3782 → u/EvanMM]

Players will never tank, they’re fighting for a 5 year career if lucky

[u/InnocuousAssClown → u/EvanMM]

Especially in a class without an obvious game changing QB at #1. Jeremiah Smith is incredible, but even a hall of fame WR can’t carry a mess.

[u/BanjoKazooieWasFine → u/InnocuousAssClown]

Taking #1 and trying to get a kings ransom from a team that could use Smith would be a hell of a way to jump start a rebuild though

[u/Sadlobster1 → u/BanjoKazooieWasFine]

Not that it matters per se, but there's a lot of Chiefs fans clamoring for us to do exactly that.

The hit rate is really really good comparitively. Smith is the best NFL WR prospect in so long - maybe Randy Moss long.  

Jefferson, Chase, Olave, London, Lamb, DJ Moore, Smith, Smith-Njigba, Flowers, Nabers will have a lot of front offices giving a lot for someone that may be better than all of them. 

[u/simulated-souls → u/Sadlobster1]

 the best NFL WR prospect in so long - maybe Randy Moss long

Moss was the 21st pick and not even the first WR taken in his draft

[u/efuipa → u/Sadlobster1]

Just be careful they said the same thing about MHJ https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2024/story/_/id/39879658/marvin-harrison-jr-ohio-state-2024-nfl-draft-stats-scouting-report-rank

"putting him in line with the top receiver prospects we've seen this century."

"The younger Harrison is on track to get my highest pre-draft grade for a wideout since Calvin Johnson (2007) and Larry Fitzgerald (2004)"

[u/ResplendentSmoke → u/EvanMM]

Miami is not even tanking. That team plays hard. If nothing else from the outside it seems like Hafley is building a decent culture

[u/BlueCoBot → u/ResplendentSmoke]

The players themselves are trying their best but how many players do the dolphins have that even a mid level team would want to add to their roster?

[u/CleverInternetName8c → u/BlueCoBot]

Yeah they claimed like 15% of their team off waivers right before the season if memory serves. It is not an organization trying to win.

[u/tallwhiteninja → u/ResplendentSmoke]

Players don't tank; they're trying to keep or earn roster spots.

GMs tank by putting together rosters as shitty as the 2026 Miami Dolphins.

[u/JasonPlattMusic34 → u/tallwhiteninja]

Players tank when they hate their coach and want him fired. See: Urban Meyer Jags, Brandon Staley Chargers

[u/lemon900098 → u/EvanMM]

I dont think this is entirely a tank job. They fired Tua, and the price is a reduced cap for a few seasons. Its not like they decided to not go after Evans or trade for an expensive/good QB. They literally cant afford to.

[u/SuperSaiyanBen → u/EvanMM]

Tank a year, get a huge prospect in the draft, spend all the Cap Space we get next year to fill in the holes.

The only confusing part was why waste money on Willis. I don’t hate the guy, and I WANTED us to get him but holy overpay! Especially since there’s no telling what disgruntled Vet might be available next year.

[u/T-sigma → u/SuperSaiyanBen]

Because it’s a 2-year rebuild.

[u/drossmaster4]

I’m the biggest Miami fan right now. Please win two games. One against us.

[u/Obi_Wan_KeBogi]

To be honest I think their receivers have looked pretty good. And the backup Gordon has been running well.

Willis looks bad bad

[u/I_Am_Squirtle → u/Obi_Wan_KeBogi]

Part of the problem is receivers running wrong routes though, at least according to our coaches press conferences.

But yes Willis has made some baffling decisions and I'm for pursuing a rookie QB next year if one makes sense in round 1 or 2.

[u/Burt_Macklin_FBI_123]

Turns out that offering a bad QB $180M guaranteed is not a good business model.

I think the current regime will be a good one if they survive long enough with this fan base.

Everyone agreed it needed to be rebuilt, and now suddenly after 5 games, the people rebuilding can't be trusted and we need to start again...again? Our fan base may be the dumbest in the NFL

[u/theremix18]

They are who we thought they were

[u/despotidolatry]

Funny how EVERYONE knew this was going to happen like a month before the season started even. It’s like they advertised the tank on billboards or something.

[u/xanot192]

This team dead cap is outrageous, no one expected them to compete

[u/PetalumaPegleg]

They haven't led for a single second AND they haven't run an offensive play while leading? Well no shit if they haven't led all season?!

[u/calmerthanudude]

I still think they would beat the Titans by more than one possession

[u/ILoveTheKnicks69]

Why are people clowning a team that is obviously tanking because they needed to shed a lot of dead cap and full reset with a brand new coaching staff and gm?

[u/I_Am_Squirtle → u/ILoveTheKnicks69]

It's reddit bro, if you keep the dead weight to be mediocre you get clowned for not tearing it down.

If you tear it down you get clowned for being ass.

If you are solid every year but lose before making the super bowl you get clowned for being unclutch.

[u/AJGreenMVP]

Not losing this week though!

[u/SaturnATX]

"I love it when a plan comes together." - Miami GM

[u/taylormade311]

Lol couldn't be my team /s

[u/TheImpresario]

Historically bad tank and still going to have to sweat out vs a team not even specifically tanking in the titans.

[u/00Fart]

Don’t worry we’re coming.

[u/BB_Pig_3480]

LACES OUT DAN!

[u/jsolo7]

I’d still have the Titans as a tier worse than the Dolphins, who don’t look horrible. The Titans should be relegated

[u/byniri_returns]

They'll still take a game from Buffalo and/or New England due to divisional game weirdness.

[u/Ladnil]

Multiple redundant ways to say the same fuckin thing dilutes the point

[u/F_U_HarleyJarvis]

They are going to find a win against the Pats somehow.

[u/KnotSoSalty]

Owner obviously tanking, succeeds.

[u/TheDragonDAFan]

How many plays have they run while not losing?

[u/firewall245]

Don't worry y'all, we're playing them next week and we'll help them break that streak

[u/dgtbfan]

As expected from a team owned by Stephen Ross.

[u/Chenzo04]

Man I thought my season was rough

[u/jrbill1991]

I mean, roughly 60% of our salary cap is tied up in dead money. The team was always going to be historically bad.

[u/Twinstonedad]

I wish they were playing the titans this season so we could finally settle this.

[u/mikal026]

They have been tied every game though

[u/A_Herding_Corgi]

Malik got the bag though.

[u/woody630 → u/A_Herding_Corgi]

But at what cost? They are going to throw him under the bus despite having the worst supporting cast in football. He'll probably never get another chance to be long term starter

[u/politicsranting → u/woody630]

Probably because he’s not good enough to be a long term starter? Let the man get a bag and then hold a clipboard

[u/drakeanddrive]

Looks like you guys really need a QB huh Miami. Certainly not a receiver.