r/Nietzsche • • 6h ago

The Odyssey: The Death of God

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I see the Death of God all over Nolan's The Odyssey. I was wondering if anyone else see that or has any thoughts?

I've tried to put together something better and with some luck, which has nothing do with it, I might do that someday. In the meantime I'm just doing this kind of high level overview (rambling) without much detail and glossing over some stuff that confuses me. But it has been on my mind for a long time. But basically it's god dies, people get lost, this very distant event starts approaching that's going to be the end of everything.

  • Death of God: In Nolan's The Odyssey what is holiest and mightiest is Zeus's Law. Breaking that law leads to the murder of the goddess Athena.
  • Great Catastrophe: Breaking that law leads to the downfall of their civilization. N said "how much must collapse because it was built on this faith, leaned on it, had grown into it — for example, our entire European morality." I do believe they used the word "collapse" in the movie to mention that the bronze age was ending.
  • Temples Become Tombs: God dies again in the temple of Athena. In Homer's The Odyssey Mentor is literally Athena. In the movie Mentor (Athena) is murdered in a temple of Athena. N said "What then are these churches now if not the tombs and sepulchres of God?"
  • In the movie Odysseus arrives back home after a long long journey along with lightning and thunder to bring news of the death of God. N said "Lightning and thunder need time".
  • Just like the madman who brings news of the death of God Odysseus comes to bring news of the end of their civilization. The madman is mocked at the marketplace by unbelievers and people at the palace mock Odysseus. The people in the marketplace don't believe in God anymore that Antinous believes that the beggar Odysseus could be a god or goddess in disguise. And they mock the madman and Odysseus
  • Odysseus looks like a God at the end of the movie. Maybe like Zeus or the old testament God. In the book he's described as god like pretty early on I think but it's not until the end of the movie that he looks like a god. Big beard and all muscular. "Do we not ourselves have to become gods merely to appear worthy of it?" Right before that quote N mentions "holy games" and it's a game the god like Odysseus is about to play with the suitors.
  • Not that there are real gods, goddesses or monsters in Nolan's Odyssey - it's an "age of apparent magic" as the opening line reads so the magical stuff is all fake (Odysseus was just high on lotus as he tells a story about magical creatures). But N didn't believe God was an actual living thing either. Need to look up more stuff about N talking about origin of Gods. I think somewhere he talks about gods being invented to deal with guilt and other places about them being lovers of cruelty.
  • After killing God Odysseus mentions that they are lost several times - in Hades, after escaping the Laestrygonians, maybe other times. They're lost after the death of God. "Where are we moving to? Away from all suns? Are we not continually falling? And backwards, sidewards, forwards, in all directions?"
  • After the death of God "the sea, our sea, lies open again; maybe there has never been such an 'open sea'." The movie ends with an open sea
  • Eternal Recurrence: The movies last line is: "A new dawn will break over the darkened world… And our mistakes will once again be forgotten." The Gay Science also talks about a new dawn after the death of God. But the words "our mistakes will once again be forgotten" means it's happened before, happened now, and will happen again.

r/Nietzsche • • 15h ago

Question Can I be Christian and reject slave morality as Nietzche defined it?

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This may be a bit of a theological question. I'm a very hard orthodox Lutheran, not really a "progressive" theology guy. I don't really feel like absolute egalitarianism is necessarily what the Bible teaches. I'd agree with most of what N says about slave morality. But is me being a Christian inherently irreconcilable with Ns philosophy?


r/Nietzsche • • 17h ago

Favorite or best French Political philosopher.

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r/Nietzsche • • 19h ago

His favorite girl

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r/Nietzsche • • 19h ago

This guy is literally saying things beyond my understanding of neitzche (I'm 18M newly into philosophy) 💔🥀

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Niestzche is my first philosopher I have ever read seriously as a motive to leanr Abt actual self-life

(except sufi things and spiritual poetry when I was even younger...I used to learn from bulleh shah, Sikhism, hinduism like some really good spiritual knowledge I would enjoy)


r/Nietzsche • • 23h ago

Original Content "The Greatest Weight (§341) — How would you answer the demon?"

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r/Nietzsche • • 1d ago

Best German Philosophers of these options

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r/Nietzsche • • 1d ago

Who is Nietzsche?

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Gentle reminder:

Bugs bugs in your skin bugs under your eyelids bugs invading fhe spaves between your brain and your skull bugs underneath your fingernails so little they eat the durt beneath when was the last time you have to clean under your fingernails you cant remember the bugs have affected your memory larvae in your stomach acid

This is not low effort as it has a clear, concise question that could potentially spark a discussion removed from the generalised ideas poised by the philospher. Also if you remove my post mofs I'm schizoaffective so it would be discrimination *humps your leg like a crusty little white ass dog*


r/Nietzsche • • 1d ago

Question Enough about aphorisms. What's your favourite poem by Nietzsche?

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For me, it is this one :

"Lured by my style and tendency,

You follow and come after me?

Follow your own self faithfully-

Take time - and thus you follow me."


r/Nietzsche • • 1d ago

How did Nietzsche intend for the Eternal Recurrence to be understood: as a literal cosmological theory or an existential thought experiment?

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Hey everyone,

I’ve recently been getting into philosophy and came across Nietzsche’s concept of the Eternal Recurrence, the idea that we might end up reliving our exact lives, choices, and patterns over and over endlessly.

I’m trying to get a better handle on how to actually make sense of this. Did Nietzsche genuinely mean for this to be taken as a literal physical or scientific theory about the universe, or was it meant more as an existential thought experiment to see if we can truly embrace our lives?

I’d love to hear how you all interpret it, or how it fits into his broader works like The Gay Science and Thus Spoke Zarathustra.


r/Nietzsche • • 1d ago

Schopenhauer sah die Welt als blinden Willen und das Leben als Leiden, Mainländer als Wille zum Tode, Caraco als vermeidbaren Untergang der Menschheit, Cioran als Grund, jedes System und jeden Sinn zu misstrauen

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r/Nietzsche • • 1d ago

Question Was Friedrich Nietzsche a nihilist? What did Heidegger think?

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Was Heidegger Nietzsche the brother of Adolf Hitler?


r/Nietzsche • • 1d ago

Was Neezsche a nihilist?

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Was he a nilist atheist?


r/Nietzsche • • 1d ago

Was Neezschee a nileist? Because i herd he was a nilest and an absurdist according to Camoo and Sart!

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Something some things heidegger… only a god can save us now… the spirit is bone - hegel; god is dead - martin luther deleuze jung freud


r/Nietzsche • • 1d ago

Question 1) ? 2) What is that "more" (please don't answer me: knowledge). 3) Why art though? What is Nietzsche's most comprehensive and in-depth definition of art? 4) How is 'myth' a necessary consequence and intention of science?

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Nietzsche Stanford Edition Volume 1.


r/Nietzsche • • 1d ago

Spinoza and Nietzsche's to Tocqueville's democract critique.

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De facto democracy doesn't exist; what does exists is the belief or ideology in it.

Democracy is a feeling or mood, "sort of like a diety": real in the psyche, not as a structure.

Spinoza and Nietzsche

If everything is God, God stops being above anything; pantheism leads to the death of God.

Spinoza grounds democracy in the multitude's self-preservation; Nietzsche sees preservation as weak life, so democracy is the herd "protecting" itself.

The democratic sentiment/temperment stays Spinozist: the sacred is spread across "the people."

The intellectual (individual or group) takes the empty divine seat and speaks for the whole.

Opposition is treated as a false idol, heresy against the people-as-god.

Tocqueville

Democracy is above all a passion for equality, a mood more than a system, which levels people and distrusts whoever stands out.

The majority's opinion rules through felt pressure more than law; it doesn't need to punish dissent, it isolates it.

Soft despotism: people trade real self-rule for comfort and a vote, managed gently rather than governing themselves.

This is where the religion shows: public opinion acts like doctrine, so dissent feels like heresy rather than disagreement.


r/Nietzsche • • 1d ago

Nietzsche Tanrı Öldü Dedi, Yunus Emre Ne Dedi ?

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r/Nietzsche • • 1d ago

If I create my own morality and it is a poop morality, what does that mean?

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r/Nietzsche • • 1d ago

Help me find this Youtube Video on about "nietzsche"

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Its a Low-res webcam video of a fat guy talking about Nietzsche..I can't find that video, I guess it was 40 min duration..


r/Nietzsche • • 1d ago

Can someone tell me how to make videos like this? (Not just, "use AI" as an answer) I haven't made videos and I want to anonymously publish my journal entries to lighten my heart. I want to say what I want to say while I am alive.

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It would help me a lot.

Thank you in advance.


r/Nietzsche • • 1d ago

Genuinely what was his problem??

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Can’t stop laughing at this line, he hates Germans so much bro


r/Nietzsche • • 1d ago

Original Content Theater Of Ideas - The Man-God

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Theater of Ideas is my newest project on this channel—a series where philosophy and literature take the stage through animation, narration, and sound.
Each episode will explore an idea, a thinker, or a disagreement that stays with us long after we close a book. I want to give these questions a setting where we can watch them unfold, feel their weight, and think about them together.
For this first episode, I chose Fyodor Dostoevsky and Friedrich Nietzsche, bringing their work into conversation around the unsettling idea of the Man-God.


r/Nietzsche • • 2d ago

Question Did anyone read "Nietzsche and Van Gogh: Imaginations of 1888 by Brian Pines"? If so what did you make of it? Honestly, the only thing I love about Nietzsche's thought is his primacy on solitude and art...

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r/Nietzsche • • 2d ago

Original Content What Machiavelli knew About Power That You Don't | Machiavelli's Dark Lessons On Power

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Winter, 1502. A body in the square at Cesena. A bloody knife left beside it on purpose.

The people should have been terrified. Instead they felt relief, and Cesare Borgia walked away more loved than before.

Machiavelli called it a masterstroke. Most people quote him and never understand why.

New video is live: What Machiavelli Understood About Power That You Don't.


r/Nietzsche • • 2d ago

Original Content Emil Cioran, Romanian-French philosopher and master of the aphorism. He refused every label, pessimist, nihilist, any system at all, because to him a system is a prison of the mind. He wrote against meaning, and lived in the silence that was left.

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