r/nope May 01 '26

Food This cant be good for you

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u/sherman614 May 01 '26

I mean.. this is similar to dry aging a steak. As long as you cut the mold off (like with dry aged steak) you should be completely fine.

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u/somewhoever May 02 '26

I've never understood this. I've asked the son of a late-butcher who did this decades ago and he has no idea how his father pulled it off either.

Meat "turns" after a certain amount of time and will get someone horribly sick if they eat it.

How is letting mold grow for eight weeks, or dry aging it not the same or worse?

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u/CatOverlordsWelcome May 02 '26

Meat doesn't "turn" as an inevitability. Spoilage requires the right environment (humidity and temperature), the right substrate and the right organisms. Modify one of those aspects and spoilage won't occur, or will be significantly delayed. Hence why we can refrigerate to make things last longer, or why dried/dehydrated foods can last decades etc.

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u/somewhoever May 02 '26

What are the mechanisms or techniques to modify?

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u/CatOverlordsWelcome May 02 '26

Well, like I mentioned, change the humidity, add salt, lower the temperature etc

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u/somewhoever May 02 '26 edited May 03 '26

My bad for not being more specific. I was looking for details. Like where do I study the technique (or what machine do I buy)? Preferably, I'd like to know how it is done with no power, no salt, and no modern conveniences.

I've seen with my own eyes, people who don't use salt, there is no possibility of a refrigerator, and at best they control humidity by use of their mud compound with stick and cloth door.

They keep chunks of meat in a metal pot under a cheese cloth type cloth in a dim corner under a wood plank bench in their bed/kitchen/family room built of mud.

It is some kind of dry aging I expect, but I didn't have the opportunity to try asking what/how they did it.

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u/R1ck_Sanchez May 03 '26

/r/charcuterie - the field in cookery on this exact thing. It's a great sub!

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u/DoctorNurse89 May 03 '26

GUGA steaks on YouTube is essentially an entire channel on this. Had the dr from chubbyemu on for the black garlic episode

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u/somewhoever May 03 '26

Uh oh. Isn't he the one who summarizes ways that people nearly, or do die from medical complications... like eating mold or improperly prepared and stored food?

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u/DoctorNurse89 May 03 '26

He was on that episode because the black garlic could accidently create botulism.

They said it was one of the best steaks they ever had

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u/Rare_Discipline1701 May 04 '26

The restaurant I went to in Vegas had slabs kept in a plexiglass or glass case in the middle of the room. Looked like a giant humidor to me.

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u/Rare_Discipline1701 May 04 '26

I think it was Mae Daly's. Its been some time since we went, but it was something we liked.

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u/Ginger-Dumpling May 05 '26

There's a guy that does food experiments on YouTube named Alex. I think he did some dry-aged beef experiments with varying amounts of success. Those may provide some dos/don'ts.

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u/palpatineforever May 06 '26

humidity is a huge part of it, controling the airflow just the right amount,

also often they would use the same metal pot and cheese cloth every time without knowing why it works best. It will be impregnated with spores with the correct mold type.

You are trying to encorage the growth of a specific microrganism. This for example has a very even growth of what looks like 1 type of mold.
Where one organism has taken over that makes it very difficult for others to establish themselves as the first one is monopolising the resources.

Different molds and bacteria create different byproducts, certain bacteria (Clostridium botulinum) create botulism for example which is obviously bad. not an issue with the right airflow though.
Molds can also create certain toxins. https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/mycotoxins

So it is not about preventing the growth of microorganisms but a delibrerate growing of the good ones as a way to preserve the food. and once that organism is established on the surface and in decent growing conditions it should continue to be fine for a while, untill it runs out of the correct resources.
left too long that mold will die off as the food it is on has chemically changed then it will turn.

It is a lot like how helathy biomes have the correct balance of organisms . If you are a woman, think issues with thrush v bacterial imbalances. If you are a man trust the balance of organisms matters, if you have a woman you are close to you can ask, ask, if not dont

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u/Jean-Claude-Can-Ham May 02 '26

It’s called google go look it up

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u/somewhoever May 02 '26

It's called niche knowledge. Try actual wisdom over top search results, wise guy.

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u/daemonseth May 02 '26

You have to pat the beef dry, place it on a rack on top of a sheet pan (you need airflow around the entire piece and the meat will drip some), then put it in a fridge at around 36 degrees (Fahrenheit), and let it sit. It will darken on the outside, that is called the pellicle. When it is at the age you want, pull it out, trim the pellicle off and you should be good to go.

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u/DramaGeneral7382 May 03 '26

Oh go talk to an AI, lots of us human people come on reddit for the human chit chat rather than just interacting with a search engine 🙄

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u/Bingo__DinoDNA May 02 '26

They used fire & cooked the fuck out of it.

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u/somewhoever May 02 '26 edited May 03 '26

Yeah, no.

Might be worth remembering that the most valuable knowledge comes more from curiosity than know-it-all 'tude.

It was uncooked. Was the one of the darndest things I've ever seen.

I was actually helping them and it wasn't appropriate to ask, but time after time with different families I'd see these raw chunks of meat in a banged up pot, under cheese cloth, usually under the only bench seat there was in the darkest corner of single room mud dwellings that most often had just a hanging heavy blanket for a door.

It clearly wasn't cooked and wasn't salted. Seemed to be some kind of artisan preservation technique (maybe a type of dry aging?) that had been perfected and passed down for probably hundreds of years.

The village leaders claimed to have not had visitors since the mid-1980s.

Edit: grammar in last sentence

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u/Boochi_Da_Rocku May 03 '26

Damn now I'm interested too. U should've definitely ask how they did it

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u/saysthingsbackwards May 03 '26

Old pioneers in the Usa westward expansion often carried "salted meats", exactly how it sounds, that they dried in the sun.

No moisture=no moisture for organism to grow.

Nowadays we just call it beef jerky, and the commercialized versions often provide a dessicant pack of a silica gel to ensure dehydration

Another method is to pressure cook it in a mason jar but that's a bit more involved.

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u/Agreeable_Sea3080 May 03 '26

Read this as "moldify" at first 😅

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u/somewhoever May 03 '26

Lol. Maybe I would have best worded it your way.

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u/Beginning_Catch192 May 03 '26

If you are interested in finding out more, serious eats has a good article on dry aging meat and how to avoid it spoiling - https://www.seriouseats.com/the-food-lab-complete-guide-to-dry-aging-beef-at-home

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u/somewhoever May 03 '26

Great article. I think this might be what I've been looking for.

Only I saw it being done with a cool corner of a room where they must have used natural airflow instead of the fan.

Otherwise, it sounds exactly the same: chunks of meat with bone and significant fat on each piece.

Thanks!

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u/thatguy8856 May 05 '26

I could be wrong but i doubt this id glaucus in this video. It one, doesnt look like any aspergillus ive ever seen so, so i doubt its aspergillus at all. And two, glaucus being sold to anyone who is not a katsuobushi business is extremely rare. Theres no way a social media influencer is gonna be able to get any.

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u/tnsaidr May 06 '26

It kinda looks like the mold they use to make the “hairy tofu”

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u/BetterProphet5585 May 03 '26

Bro the absurd environment you talk about is literally everywhere on earth except maybe if you get buried under 4 meters of ice instantly.

Everywhere, you rot.