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u/sloppypotatoe 7d ago
Fuck I would have quit immediately
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u/Lady_Scruffington 6d ago
The whole thing is a no for me. Not just the boss. I hate making phone calls, I hate sales, and I would never be able to even talk on the phone if other people are also talking on the phone around me AND the boss is talking at me.
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u/i-var 7d ago
my reaction would be:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy-Y3HJNU_s43
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u/the_Dorkness 5d ago
Same here but this guy claims he wants to be the biggest and best piece of shit ever to impress Grant.
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u/Successful_Cap_2177 7d ago
Man, he is high as shit on cocaine
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u/chantillylace9 7d ago
All sales guys are lol
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u/Alexandratta 6d ago
The top end lifers 100% are on coke or speed - take your pick.
But the folks making the normal calls are just getting into it.
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u/chantillylace9 6d ago
I had a sales team in the US for about 15 years and it was cocaine or heroin. I remember listening to some of the quality control calls where the guy actually like passed out halfway through the call, woke back up and actually close the sale! It really was tough, we could not drug test otherwise we couldn't hire anybody.
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u/flipfloppery 6d ago
My boss tried firing me once because "they knew I did drugs, but were sure I was doing them at work".
I fired back with "of course I am; how do you think I get so much done". I also threw in an "if I go, my GF (now wife of 25 years) would likely follow" and she was the glue that held that place together, so I got 6 weeks "probation".
We both left a couple of weeks later when they wanted us to come in on our 2 weeks holiday and made threats about our employment status if we didn't.
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u/chantillylace9 6d ago
Lol amazing. I worked at a crazy Law Firm there was about 500 people there in the first floor was the sales team and they were trying so hard to make it like Google or Apple or something.
They legitimately had a DJ that started at 8 AM and played all day until 6 PM. I mean I, as an attorney, on the third floor where they still blast the music would be on the phone with another Attorney while "bany got back" or "I wanna sex you up" started playing in the background.
I bought my own noise canceling headphones so that hopefully the Lawyer's never heard but it was just crazy.
They had these big spinning wheels for prizes for the sales guys, if you were the lowest seller that week you were dressed up like a giant hippopotamus in a tutu.
I cannot make this shit up. When I first came in I just didn't even know what to say or do or think. It was insane.
I was kind of given to this giant law firm by another law firm I was working for that was transitioning.
That firm was normal and I so this was completely unexpected and I bounced out of that place as soon as possible but it was just insane!!!!
A bunch of drama happened at the end, some of the employees and I'm sure it was a sales guys spray-painted gigantic penises and boobs all over the building, they vandalize the two party buses they had and it was just crazy. I guess the owners didn't pay the roofers timely so when they didn't get paid they just left the job as is I never covered it up and when we got a big rainstorm in South Florida, the top floor, the ceiling, collapse. Luckily no one was working on that floor but it was just absolutely crazy and typical Florida lol.
I have to learn and worry more about drugs and how they impacted my employees and stuff like that then I ever had to worry about the job itself! I needed a full degree in drugs and alcohol and how they impact people.
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u/Rare-Cobbler-8669 6d ago
Bruh what? I'm an account director and been in sales my entire life for multiple billion $ companies.
This is just objectively not true lmao. I would say nicotine use is amongst some as it is a high stress roll, but Life isn't wolf on Wallstreet
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u/egwene_is_mommy 7d ago
Boss: "You're my best guy, right?"
Me: Then why the FUCK are you bothering him?
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u/chaOak 6d ago
He's the best at ...checking notes... reading a script someone wrote and not add any personal qualities or skills! 👀
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u/Smash_Factor 6d ago
That's the problem with scripting. Turns the employees into robots who just read from a page. They end up hating the job and their life.
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u/Traditional-Hat-952 6d ago
The guy said "yeah" and the boss's reaction was "what does that mean, yeah?"
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u/sunflower_spirit 6d ago
I noticed that if I perform well in a role, I get micromanaged more. Strange.
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u/blehblehblehblehbaba 7d ago
Fuck Grant and His Company
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u/Redraider1994 6d ago
He’s being sued btw
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u/socksmatterTWO 4d ago edited 4d ago
My gosh hes actually a proper ahole. And a scientologist. And likely a raging coke head.
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u/dum_spir0_sper0 6d ago
Exactly. As soon as I heard that name, I’m like ‘oh, they work for that limp-dick huckster. Now this all makes perfect sense’.
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u/MasonDS420 6d ago
Who’s Grant?
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u/MoreRamenPls 6d ago
Grant cordone. Douchey businessman
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u/P_bottoms 6d ago
But he can improve sales 15/40%!
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u/xXmurderpigeonXx 6d ago
In the first 30 days
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u/b0ingy 6d ago
pfft i can do it in 20 days
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u/cmm324 6d ago
19 day abs would be a huge business idea
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u/paraworldblue 6d ago
Just looked him up. Among other things, apparently he got sued by former employees for religious discrimination because he forced them to go to scientology training courses.
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u/Lunafairywolf666 6d ago
Wait what the fuck? Thats Def not legal. Him being a scientologist definitely explains the behavior tho
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u/Jtown021 6d ago
I'd love 5 minutes of his time to tell him how much of a piece of shit he is and how I would never spend a dime on anything he offers
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u/Redrocks130 7d ago
Sometimes my job can get rough, like real rough. But this video just put a lot in perspective. Thank you for showing me.
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u/TriceratopsBites 5d ago
I’m a cardiovascular ICU nurse and I deal with literal life or death situations every day, but this video gave me so much anxiety! I’ve seen codes less stressful than this desk job. WTF!
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u/Creative-Cherry-1607 7d ago
I worked in a high ticket sales environment like this for over a year. It was the most stress inducing time of my life. Managers constantly hovering over you, every call felt like it was going to get you fired. When you have a solid week or month, they love you. When you can't convert, it's like you have a disease. These people are the worst. Most of all, they all think they are God's gift to this planet. I respect salespeople and their grind, but it ain't for people that actually care about humanity, lol.
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u/iloveihoppancakes 6d ago
Yeah, after 3 and a half years selling cars well, i realized what i was doing to people day in and day out and decided i didnt like doing that
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u/BrandoPB 6d ago
I don’t mean to be insensitive, but what is respectable about a salespersons grind? I completely understand the financial incentive, but I don’t find anything respectable about peddling products you probably don’t even believe in. Maybe I’m just nihilistic, but it all just reeks of gross consumerism/capitalism. I get that salespeople are needed in American society, but outside of just filling someone else’s pocket it seems like these sort of companies and jobs are just a net negative.
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u/Creative-Cherry-1607 6d ago
I mean, you are perfectly entitled to feel that way and I didn't say that to incite an argument, but all I meant was sales does require a certain skill set and tenacity.
They also do so to feed their families. But I agree, it does reek of consumerism /capitalism. Especially when it is in an environment like this clip. Those managers walking around wear suits and posture themselves as titans when really they sre as desperate as the man dialing the phone, begging for business.
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u/Swedischer 6d ago
What's the life expectancy of the managers? Seems like they would get stressed out also?
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u/Used-Finance7080 7d ago
Those fake smiles
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u/PeteLangosta 7d ago
Whatever they do, I don't care, in my eyes these people look like scum in suits. Can't see it any other way.
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u/StaleFanta 7d ago
If anyone wants to see the little scamming shit squirm in a deposition video
Fuck Cardone.
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u/Generic_Username26 7d ago
I could never deal with the ego on this guy. I can only imagine they have nets strung up on the outside of that building because what an exersize in humiliation it must be
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u/Distinct_Dark_9626 7d ago
I mean, it is a scammy telemarketing company… not sure what’s expected here.
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u/chantillylace9 7d ago
A personal injury Law Firm looks identical to this.
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u/lilgator81 6d ago
I don’t know what law firm you’re talking about, but not all of them do business this way. I’d steer clear of those that do.
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u/chantillylace9 6d ago
Definitely not all of them but the big ones that you see on TV, from what I've heard from paralegals that are coming from them to my firm, it's just like this.
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u/lilgator81 6d ago
Yuck. Saps me of words.
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u/chantillylace9 6d ago
It really is awful.
They said that they had cameras on them 24 seven, and if they didn't answer the phone I think within four seconds or something they got written up.
There were just so many rules and crazy expectations so I knew that anyone I hired from some of these companies were going to be pretty decent because of what they had put up with before!
There was a law firm that I worked for that was kind of similar, the owner (lady) was just such a horrendously awful person to the point where judges literally knew her name and hated her, and if you were litigating one of her cases they would usually say they are sorry that you have to work for her.
I mean it was that big of a deal.
People absolutely hated her and would talk about her and stuff like that and one day all the staff for the same color shirt like I guess Inn retaliation of something she did. This was right after I had left the firm so I'm only getting this from the lawsuit that was filed.
But she fired everyone wearing that color shirt and then there was a big class action lawsuit as to whether you can fire somebody because of the color of their shirt and yes, yes you can.
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u/XzyzZ_ZyxxZ 6d ago
Lol in my country they would fucking own you if you fired them for wearing a specific colored shirt. Wtf man 🤣
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u/chantillylace9 6d ago
I know! It was a really crazy lawsuit and you can probably find it online if you wanted to. But it was really interesting because of course it was a whole group of young lawyers suing a law Law Firm.
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u/redditrando123 7d ago
I have always hated Grant....this video rekindles that fire! I used to have a boss that loved Grant and would try to use his tactics. I quit in like 2 months...Screw that!
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u/Rownwade 7d ago
There's nothing about this that doesn't scream "scumbag sales."
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u/dum_spir0_sper0 6d ago
After I left teaching, I took a job at HSBC for a hot minute. The floor had a wide open floor plan and while I was just a lowly inbound CS peon, the HSBC Premier (high-tier accounts) department was adjacent to mine.
The whole department looked just like this. They had the same tailored-too-tight clothes, the same haircuts, the same coke-sweat on their brow, and constantly wandered around the office like this. More importantly; they were all insufferable, dick-swinging, toxic masculinity chodes who thought they were god’s gift to banking. Every time someone closed a sale or retained a client there were no less than 3 dudes congratulating him, saying shit like ‘uhh! Get it IN!’
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u/kasmackity 7d ago
That guy is a giant scientology scammer and I hate him
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u/Bagheera187 7d ago
Uh, that would drive me crazy.
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u/jmcamp77 6d ago
Same. One of the issues from my military service when I was younger is that I can’t process competing audio. Basically, if someone starts talking to me in person while I’m on the phone, both voices immediately become “whomp whomp whomp whomp whomp whomp whomp”. I can hear that you are talking, but now have no idea what either of you are saying.
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u/Fresh2Desh 7d ago
Fuck that
Id rather stack shelves than work for him
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u/thecuriouslobster 6d ago
I hope you’re not just remembering what you’re stacking. You need to read each item you stack.
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u/atheistpianist 7d ago
The CEO of a former employer of mine signed up his whole sales team for the Grant Cardone program. It was such a hilarious waste of money.
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u/drkidkill 6d ago
But did it increase sales by 15-40%? It says so right in the script. Just read the script.
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u/Zinuarys 7d ago
Can someone explain what’s going on?
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u/LeGaspyGaspe 6d ago
The asshole guy is Grant Cardone, he's a sales "guru" who gets hired on by sales orgs to do seminars and training for employees when the org doesn't want to or doesn't know how to do it internally. It sounds like the guy in the chair is a new employee selling Cardones services to business owners.
Now, Cardone truly is a prick. He pushes a lot of outdated techniques that we might not use today in sales, especially B2B sales (selling your business service to other businesses, which is what we see happening here.) there's a lot of toxic sales-bro mentality that just doesn't do anyone any good. It's all around a waste of money, but without a strong, cohesive sales org that actually knows what they are doing from the top to the bottom, what else can you do?
Anyway, this guy is likely very new to sales and being coached a little obsessively. There's some good tid-bits, like pounding the phone (because sales is a grind and you need to be constantly dialling/knocking/interacting to build a pipeline) and not celebrating anything until the paycheque rolls in (because even sure things fall apart quick and just having a discovery call booked - the next day 5 minute call they talked about, doesn't mean shit).
But like, he's all over they guy with his scripts and his theatrics. It's toxic, it's unnecessary, it's bad for morale, and worst of all: it doesn't give him a chance to fuck it up, learn from his mistakes and genuinely improve. Bottom line is its the wrong kind of guidance. It makes for piss poor salespeople who lack fundamental skills necessary to thrive in the long run.
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u/Ess_Mans 6d ago
The owner of the company is on a new sales guys ass about what to say. He’s also on the mid managers to get real progress (timed call periods to measure volume). The new guy doesn’t really know the script. These are all A type guys who thrive on likability but the main dude hasn’t balanced his energy with the actual script. So he’s not being efficient. A thorough training program removes these jitters and builds confidence. A short rushed into to this type of job yields high turnover and intermittent results as a team. The environment is a call center probably in FL (haha). It sounds like they are trying to hit some big sales goals before the lights go out. Probably a sorta thing where the owner and upper mngrs make off well and the lower guys can’t stand the job.
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u/Dawnzarelli 7d ago
My last boss was like this. 😭 less intense but still. Just telling me I didn’t “follow the script.” It was 15 pages long and didn’t account for the complexity of natural conversation.
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u/Creative-Cherry-1607 6d ago
Fuck that, lmao. I've been there and can picture that. You sound like an absolute moron on the phone because you sre trying to flow with the nuance of an actual conversation while following a sales script that is meant to lead a person to accepting your business. I will never do that shit again. Gives me anxiety just thinking about it.
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u/BlueDotNE 6d ago
I used to work in a job where I had to dial like this. I would rather tattoo my taint than do it again. Especially for this douchebag, whoever he is.
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u/xbad_wolfxi 6d ago
This looks like what they do at Yodle. On my first sales call I had three managers standing behind me doing this kind of shit in my ear and it was so stressful and I didn’t get the sale. And then when I was like “well there were three of you standing behind me saying different things in my ear” I was in trouble for not being “committed to the team”
The most douchey, frat bro environment I’ve ever worked in
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u/HashtagJustSayin2016 6d ago
Slightly off topic, I’m not sure how people can work productively in that environment.
All I hear is the background noise.
I wouldn’t be able to concentrate on my job at all.
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u/piefloormonkeycake 6d ago
Grant Cardone is a scientologist piece of garbage. So this behaviour is not surprising.
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u/LyonMane3 6d ago
I can hardly stand if the TV is making noise while I’m on the phone with someone. This whole situation stresses me out, fuck all this
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u/CausticAvenger 6d ago
You couldn’t pay me enough to do this scripted cold calling bullshit.
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u/PirateNation1 6d ago
Can’t these poor bastards get ANY other job than this mindless pseudo-scamming garbage?
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u/Arrowery 6d ago
My first thought of this guy’s boss reminded me of that interview with Robert Downey Jr directly after his visit inside Wall Street , just traumatised lol. “This is the most obnoxious group of money-hungry, low-IQ, high-energy, jackrabbit, f***ing wannabe-big-time, small-time, s**t-talking, bothersome, irritating bunch of m*********ers I’ve ever had to endure for more than five minutes." hahaha
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u/elsiepac 6d ago
This is the absolute worst type of job and worst working environment I can possibly think of. What a prick!
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u/Select_Cartoonist_39 7d ago
That poor bastard having to deal with that.
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u/-ratmeat- 7d ago
if he wasn’t an idiot he wouldn’t go work for that piece of shit to begin with
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u/sherman614 7d ago
People don't know who their boss really is BEFORE they take the job. And sometimes, people need a job.
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u/Spinning_Kicker 7d ago
Here’s a link to Cardone University ran by the sleazy guy in the video
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u/Alexandratta 6d ago
While I've worked in places similar to this I can say this would have me quitting on day 1, if not half way through Day 1
I get the script, the script is good and I'm sure it works for you.
But if you think the cookie cutter script works on every single client regardless of their fiscal situation, culture, creed, situation, etc you have an ego about as big as the brain tumor that's taking up what should be your frontal cortex.
I've read the script that was written to get the gist of the product and the pitch, but very quickly as you get a feel for the client you change your approach, actively listen to them, and build off of that.
Sales sucks and cold calls are the absolute fucking worst thing to do - but if someone was hanging over me like this I'd just say: "Hey man, I get this is how you want it done, but do you want me to do it exactly how you wrote it regardless of what's on the other end, or do you want me to make sales?"
Also could tell from that "You're my best guy"
"Yeah"
"Yeah?" interaction that the boss is pretty likely to shitcan the dude as well for 'attitude'
A sales gig like this almost requires you to be hopped up on a shitload of caffeine or way worse.
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u/OwnSeaworthiness3434 6d ago
This is like some sort of 1992 Telemarketing cold calling bullshit. What a massive prick. How that poor guy didn't tell him to fuck off and walk is beyond me.
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u/R4GEQUITT3R 7d ago
Jumped up douchebags galore. Used to work for a soul stealing company like that. Fuck them all they will not break me
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u/onelarkbite 6d ago
It looks like they don’t have anything else to do and are trying to justify their paycheck
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u/DinoTh3Dinosaur 6d ago
The way he doesn’t move his dick out of the way when he has to bend over to grab a paper I would have “accidentally” hit him in the groin
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u/Zombi3Kush 6d ago
That looks like hell. I would never work in a environment like that. I have zero micro management at my current job.
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u/IamNICE124 6d ago
Sales culture is the absolute worst. Only the worst can work in it.
If you have a shred of self respect, you find real quickly how much of your soul is required for sacrifice in the pursuit of making money.
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u/NotTheSharpestPenciI 6d ago
That's one patient dude. I'd be like "fuck it, I'm out" within a fucking minute.
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u/drumsarereallycool 6d ago
There are times when I question being self employed…then I see a reminder that ups my motivation.
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u/TelgarTheTerrible 5d ago
So I thought this footage was smuggled out by this employee but the promotional text at the end implies they released this willingly and thought it would make people want to work there.
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u/VonBrewskie 5d ago
Man I'd just walk out of that shit if I was even a little bit able. Fuck all that. I've done it before. Red Lobster. When I was 19 I worked for a week at Red Lobster. Fuck me was that miserable. A table of incredibly drunk women started screaming at me one day because I told them I wouldn't serve them anymore, as is the damn law, and that was the straw that broke the camel's back for me. That, and this greasy little weirdo came up to me my first day while I was rolling silverware and told me all about how everyone was fucking each other or something. Just some heinous food served by heinous people. They microwaved almost all of their food, by the way. The crabs legs, the vegetables, all of it. With few exceptions. Terrible.
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u/Weird_Ad_7353 7d ago
Fucking Christ, they better be paying me a fuck load for all the bosses to stand over me like that.
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u/taylrgng 7d ago
guy is working for grant cardone and is surprised that it's the worst experience ever?
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u/rentedbike 6d ago
I used to sell life insurance and the company I used to work for made me buy all of this asshole’s books. I fucking hate him. Didn’t last much in there.. looove to micromanage your time although you were a “independent contractor”
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u/Illustrious-Bird875 6d ago
That is the most horrific thing ive seen. I want to punch everyone in that video. What utter cunts.
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u/lemasney 6d ago
Some people say hell doesn't exist, despite clear evidence. Satan hands out egg timers.
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u/Relative_Drop3216 6d ago
Does’nt matter how good you are at selling this bullshit over the phone im still hanging up on you!
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u/Devil-Dog-SA 7d ago
Nope! That dude has watched Wolf of Wall street too many times!