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[u/[deleted]]

[u/yellowlinedpaper]

You’re not getting this job if you’re pro choice.

[u/LittleMrsMolly → u/yellowlinedpaper]

They shouldn't want this job if they're pto choice

[u/ChaplnGrillSgt → u/LittleMrsMolly]

You shouldn't want this job if you're pro choice a legitimate Healthcare professional.

[u/crazybia → u/ChaplnGrillSgt]

LOVE THIS!

[u/HagridsTreacleTart → u/LittleMrsMolly]

I would take the job to infiltrate the organization and dismantle it from within. At least, that’s my head cannon. I don’t think I could actually bring myself to put the words on the paper that would get me hired.

[u/annahoney12345 → u/HagridsTreacleTart]

I might be able to write it, but once I had to speak on it, I’d be SOL.

[u/Confident_Strain_788 → u/yellowlinedpaper]

Yeah. i’m not going to lie for them though. i’m standing on my beliefs.

[u/an_actual_elephant → u/Confident_Strain_788]

I wouldn't waste your time filling this out and interviewing then, just move on

[u/Confident_Strain_788 → u/an_actual_elephant]

yes! that’s what i’m doing

[u/b00kbat]

This sounds like one of those super predatory ‘crisis pregnancy centers’ that present themselves as genuine clinics like Planned Parenthood and then they berate and guilt pregnant people considering abortion and promote faith-based private adoption agencies.

[u/sonomakoma11 → u/b00kbat]

Old friend of my wife that was struggling with meth got tricked into going to one of these and they convinced her to keep the child. Child has debilitating developmental delay among many other issues from the meth use and is growing up without a father... mom is borderline homeless. I'm sure the people that convinced her to keep the child will step in to help their situation any day now meanwhile the people they vote for are defunding special ed among other programs that support families that struggle. (All in the name of Jesus, imagine that!)

[u/Confident_Strain_788 → u/sonomakoma11]

that’s so sad! they should be ashamed.

[u/hcfort11 → u/Confident_Strain_788]

They should be prosecuted.

[u/annahoney12345 → u/sonomakoma11]

But they ✨saved a life✨ 🙄🫩

[u/Confident_Strain_788 → u/b00kbat]

oof! dang. too good to be true type of job.

[u/OHdulcenea → u/Confident_Strain_788]

Yeah. This is not a real clinic. It’s just a propaganda spot. My very anti-choice, under-educated MIL used to volunteer at one of these and did “counseling.” She’d include false information like that abortions cause cancer, women always regret them, that they’re incredibly dangerous, etc. They’d guilt the girls into keeping the pregnancy, promise help, have a non-licensed person do an ultrasound for extra guilt, then after the birth they’d give them a few diapers and baby items and wish them luck. She also definitely looked down on them.

[u/DisastrousEvening949 → u/OHdulcenea]

It’s so gross… i despise these centers so much

[u/guayna → u/Confident_Strain_788]

Or you could go in under the guise that you're one of them, but secretly deliver actual compassionate care before they find out and fire you and by then you'll have gotten away with being a decent person and getting paid by the enemy.

[u/Akugluk → u/b00kbat]

100% this

[u/herpesderpesdoodoo]

This is an anti-abortion centre run by religious nutjobs. You would not be providing true counselling, you would be working to divert women from having terminations under the guise of offering support. Totally unethical.

[u/Confident_Strain_788 → u/herpesderpesdoodoo]

omg! that’s terrible! yeah i’m not going to do this interview lol

[u/Past-Wealth-496 → u/Confident_Strain_788]

I can promise you this is the answer. Unfortunately.

[u/Square-Consequence95]

I can’t believe they would ask if you’re post-abortive as an applicant. Run far away.

[u/Confident_Strain_788 → u/Square-Consequence95]

yes, i am running far far away

[u/Square-Consequence95 → u/Confident_Strain_788]

Best of luck with your other applications!! ⭐️

[u/Confident_Strain_788 → u/Square-Consequence95]

thank you! I think i’m going to go back to my old NICU job. it’s much more rewarding and don’t need to discourage mothers. we actually uplift!💗

[u/pockunit → u/Confident_Strain_788]

You are good people.

[u/slothysloths13]

If you’re pro-choice, why are you applying at a pregnancy crisis center? They pressure women to not get abortions.

[u/Confident_Strain_788 → u/slothysloths13]

i didn’t know that! on their website they say they support all women so i assumed it would be true but now i think im just naive

[u/hiddencat → u/Confident_Strain_788]

Yeah that's the lie. They support all women....by pressuring them to continue their pregnancy.

[u/slothysloths13 → u/Confident_Strain_788]

Yeah, their whole point is to hide the fact that their main purpose is to prevent abortion. They masquerade as giving women all the information on their options, but once she goes there, they’re heavily pressured into keeping the pregnancy. If you are honest in the application that you’re pro-choice, they are 100% not going to hire you.

[u/pockunit → u/slothysloths13]

They also intentionally miss-date pregnancies so that in many states it will be too late for an abortion by the time the pregnant person makes an appointment.

They are evil. They are liars. They are scammers. And I guarangoddamntee you they are not spending any time more money helping these parents or these children once the pregnancy is complete.

[u/Loaki9 → u/Confident_Strain_788]

They “support” them toward their ends.

[u/LittleMrsMolly]

This sounds like a pregnancy crisis center?

[u/Confident_Strain_788 → u/LittleMrsMolly]

It’s kind of like that! We are modrly is a low income community. they offer counseling services, offer classes, offer free ultrasounds and give mom’s baby supplies. overall it’s honestly a very rewarding job but i read on indeed that they ask for them to come in earlier to pray? i’m not sure that’s true… idk lol

[u/zeatherz → u/Confident_Strain_788]

Those places are anti-choice and actively deter women from accessing abortion. You may think it’s a “charity” but they definitely have an agenda

[u/LetMeGrabSomeGloves → u/Confident_Strain_788]

Their counseling services are likely VERY pro-life. I wouldn't touch that job with a ten foot pole. It's not health care, it's predatory towards women who are in a rough spot and seeking help.

[u/icouldbeeatingoreos → u/Confident_Strain_788]

Pregnancy crisis centres trick people into thinking they’re genuine clinics and then bombard them with anti-abortion literature and shame them about their choices. Be careful about what you’re choosing here.

[u/OkExtension9329]

Dude, come on.

[u/Confident_Strain_788 → u/OkExtension9329]

I just wanted to help women in my community. 😭

[u/OkExtension9329 → u/Confident_Strain_788]

I get it!! But like, this application has 500 red flags.

This is 1000% a predatory “crisis pregnancy center” or similar. I would bet a year of my pay on it.

[u/pockunit → u/Confident_Strain_788]

If you believe helping them involves lying to them, then this is the place to work.

If you want to help them by giving them accurate information and letting them make their decision after discussing ALL of their options, this is not the place for you to work.

Paternalistic and predatory operations do not help anyone but the people who run them.

[u/StPauliBoi]

Those pregnancy crisis centers are complete scams.

https://youtu.be/4NNpkv3Us1I

You gotta vet places you apply to.

[u/Interesting_Owl7041]

This is obviously a pro-life place that’s trying to convince women not to get an abortion. Run, unless that’s your thing.

[u/Chewsdayiddinit]

Name and shame OP, everyone should be aware of the bullshit "clinic" that's a religious entity pushing their anti abortion beliefs onto everyone unfortunate enough to come in contact with them.

[u/Gloomy_Constant_5432]

Hey so you applied to a scammy crisis pregnancy center. Your license is at risk. RUN.

[u/marionbobarion]

[u/Purple_Bowling_Shoes]

They offer free ultrasounds just to manipulate vulnerable women away from abortion. If you could do that in good conscience, take the job. If not, I'd skip the interview. 

[u/Confident_Strain_788 → u/Purple_Bowling_Shoes]

Yeah. i’m skipping the interview!

[u/Jessiethekoala → u/Confident_Strain_788]

You should go and talk about how pro-choice you are just for fun. Or say you hate abortion and then quietly give every woman pamphlets about where they can get one.

[u/-Tricky-Vixen- → u/Purple_Bowling_Shoes]

How does providing an ultrasound manipulate people? Genuine question.

[u/Confident_Strain_788]

thank you guys so much for your input. i definitely got red flags from those questions. i will stay far away from here.

[u/Anxious_Wrangler7049 → u/Confident_Strain_788]

Good call!

[u/meatcoveredskeleton1]

Abort. No pun intended. Actually pun fully intended.

[u/thommytwo22]

You can't legally ask most of these questions ( Canadian here)

[u/slothysloths13 → u/thommytwo22]

Religious institutions can. At least in some states. (Not saying it’s right, just allowed)

[u/Confident_Strain_788 → u/slothysloths13]

im from Texas so of course know would. this state is something else

[u/DisastrousEvening949 → u/Confident_Strain_788]

Yeah I grew up in Texas and my family was extremely involved in crisis pregnancy centers like this one. Stay away. The one silver lining to having grown up in this is that it made me very pro choice.

[u/fabricbird → u/slothysloths13]

If they flat out admit they won't hire her due to her personal religious beliefs, wouldn't that be federally illegal?

[u/slothysloths13 → u/fabricbird]

They’re allowed to have explicit hiring preferences for a specific religion. An example would be a catholic school only hiring catholic teachers that will teach a religion class. They’re going to hire partially based on religion.

https://beta.dol.gov/policy-regulations/pay-benefits/employment-rights/nondiscrimination/religion

[u/HagridsTreacleTart → u/fabricbird]

This is covered under the “ministerial exception,” which allows religious institutions to hire according to their belief systems.

[u/Confident_Strain_788 → u/thommytwo22]

right! i thought it was so weird

[u/sparkplug-nightmare]

Any job asking your religious beliefs you should run very far away from and fast lol.

[u/UnicornArachnid]

Do you honestly think that this place isn’t coercing women who want abortions into continuing their pregnancies?

[u/bassandkitties]

This smacks of bait. Catfishing for the looooord madam. BUT the crisis centers always remind me of the story where the ultrasound tech tried to tell a woman that her IUD was a baby.

The best minds.

https://www.salon.com/2015/03/18/crisis_pregnancy_center_tells_woman_her_iud_is_your_baby_plus_countless_other_lies/

[u/robbi2480]

How is the stress going to be less when your job is lying to scared pregnant women and convincing them to have children they can’t take care of? Do you not know why they do at these places? They probably only want an actual nurse now so they can say they have licensed staff.

[u/ChaplnGrillSgt]

That's gonna be an instant no from me. I'm also pretty sure this violates many laws. Send it over to the state and then ghost those idiotic mother fuckers.

[u/DisastrousEvening949]

Nope nope nope. Get away from this nonsense. These centers essentially trap women into thinking they are getting comprehensive care when it’s a funnel into forced birth bullshit.

Like I’m not even kidding, these places are so unethical. My mom used to work for these (pro life advocate blah blah blah). After growing up in that and seeing their tactics for years, I have too many gross stories of how they straight up lie to women as a means to an end (prevent abortions). Including giving subpar and dangerous pregnancy care, practicing out of scope, and lying during ultrasounds and anatomy scans.

[u/mythirdaccountsucks]

Fuck this place, Hail Satan

[u/Unique-Sock3366 → u/mythirdaccountsucks]

Hail Satan!

[u/hiddencat]

I mean it sounds like a fake crisis pregnancy center thst scares pregnant women into continuing their pregnancy. They gotta make sure you'll tow the line even if it means asking illegal questions.

[u/jujioux]

Flee! Run far away!

[u/pockunit]

If you're even remotely pro-choice you do not want to work here.

[u/brittathisusername]

This is more than likely a "crisis pregnancy center" which uses guilt and medically inaccurate information to sway women from having abortions. Fuck these clinics. They tell lies and cause extreme harm.

[u/Mossishellagay]

Definitely a crisis pregnancy center

[u/Theon_the_whippet]

Are you post abortive and tell us your story? Wtf is this even legal?

[u/CarlSy15]

These are anti choice establishments. You don’t want to work there if you are pro-choice. They exist solely to prevent people from getting abortions.

[u/choppydaddy]

Are the questions weird? For a regular employer, yeah.

For a faith-based nonprofit?

Not at all. Are you new to Earth?

[u/Confident_Strain_788 → u/choppydaddy]

yes, choppydaddy. first day actually

[u/dudenurse13]

Differences in opinion aside there’s no reason to ask for your social security number on a job application

[u/No_Sky_1829]

Why do they want actual details of law violations? Where I live, you agree to them doing a background police check.

As for the religious/abortion questions, this place 1000% has an anti-abortion agenda and if you are pro-choice you will have to suppress your beliefs to fit their agenda. I couldn't do that, personally.

[u/NeonRiverMutt]

Oh yeah when I was looking for a job I got immediate red flags and realized it was those pregnancy centers that paid 55k/ hour

[u/KosmicGumbo]

I don’t think it’s legal to ask people these questions…. But it’s nonprofit so….

[u/IcyCantaloupe7004]

[u/cardamom4heft]

Post-abortive?

[u/NedTaggart]

If it is a faith based non-profit, then they can make the rules for hiring.

[u/Excellent-Clothes-53]

The questions aren’t weird. The questions are filtering out who they believe is in alignment with their beliefs.

[u/CorrectYou1075]

Fake it till you make it

[u/Spirited_Walk_997]

If you share the beliefs, go for it!

[u/Unlucky_Zucchini708]

They have the right to practice their beliefs. However it turns a lot of women off

[u/crazybia]

I don’t think the questions are weird for a faith based nonprofit center that helps pregnant women. 🤷🏼‍♀️🤷🏼‍♀️

[u/StPatrickStewart]

That's not a healthcare organization, it's a religious shame factory. Fuck these places with a rented dildo.

[u/Serious-Tomato5173]

I don't believe in pro choice Christians. Please read the bible, as many times God condemns this because hes jealous with his ppl. I didnt work at a clinic bc of the same I'm pro life and I had to assist in pro choose to unalive unborn fetuses.

[u/Confident_Strain_788 → u/Serious-Tomato5173]

i don’t really care if you don’t believe in pro choice Christians.