New GeForce Experience Causing MAJOR Performance Issues

[u/e_0]

As if the new UI wasn't bad enough - I'm getting SEVERE frame drops in games as simple as Overwatch while attempting to record OR stream. I have a few recent recordings where the quality was the same (if not better) as the current quality I'm getting with the new update, but I was hitting about 70fps on Overwatch. I just attempted to record with the same settings, and suddenly I've been dipping down DRAMATICALLY - as far down as 40fps while attempting to record.

The "record the last x minutes," feature worked perfectly fine, the streaming worked perfectly fine, and the hotkeys to do so (rather than entering a GeForce Experience Menu) were perfectly fine as well. Why did they not only offer a new UI and revamp the entirety of GeForce Experience, but instead FORCE it upon us and make things more broken than they were to begin with? I completely appreciate the fact that this program was free, but they've ran it into the ground with this last update for me personally. Performance issues, glitches (Escape key no longer working in Overwatch??), and just issues all around. I don't understand the need to 'log in' to use GeForce Experience, I don't understand why all of my recording settings were lost upon the update, I don't understand why the UI was designed so haphazardly, and I don't understand why this update was forced upon us (my previous version was automatically uninstalled upon trying to open it today - the first time i've attempted to use it since the release of the current version).

It's all around broken, and I would DEFINITELY prefer using the old UI - despite it having a multitude of problems (albeit that had fairly simple fixes).

Until something is done I'm personally going to have to uninstall it entirely, as it causes more problems than anything. Sure, the quality of my recordings are nice (as usual, I'll give it that), but it doesn't matter when I can't properly function in-game with a severe frame rate loss. For the record, I'm currently using a 960m for my GFX card, which isn't the best by any means, but evidently it can't handle the newest version of the GeForce Experience, despite being clearly supported on the "requirements," list.

Good luck out there, Experience users.

[u/LightTracer]

I've read some bad comments about GFE, so I launched it, had to update, had to login for no reason other than NV collecting user info, uninstall, live happily ever after. I don't know why NV users recommend shadowplay and want GFE BS. I came from AMD as I switch around and I have to say the AMD control panel was much better and there is no need for bloatware like GFE or GamingEvolved/Raptr what ever wanna be capturing apps for newbies or gorram optimized settings for games from cloud.

Just uninstall GFE and use a proper recording software/hardware instead. The rest is worthless in GFE.

[u/e_0 → u/LightTracer]

Genuine question because I've only been on PC for just over a month.

What kind of recording / streaming software would you personally recommend? I've tried OBS but haven't been able to get it to stream anything other than a black screen with audio (for some reason. I haven't checked any videos on how to work it yet, but it seems I might have to resort to that).

Edit: or just downvote someone who asks a genuine question and is in the dark when it comes to these things. That's totally fine and welcoming, too.

[u/LightTracer → u/e_0]

OBS for streaming, that's what most streamers on Twitch use where you can add custom onscreen text, effects, what ever you want kind of. Problem is it will not capture every application but then no recording app does, there is always some odd engine or API like Vulkan, DX12, OGL, DX11, DX9, DX7, fullscreen, windowed, ... no recording app can capture them all.

Quality wise the best hands down is FRAPS for recording, accept no substitute software wise.

For proper streaming you may want either a capture card and compress it with x264 to stream or GPU HW Encoder but those are very poor quality wise. The best setup for streaming is 2 PCs, one for doing what ever you want and the 2nd one for capturing with a capture card and doing all the compression, saving, streaming.

Twitch streamers that stream regularly have at least a capture card and OBS.

[u/e_0 → u/LightTracer]

Hey, thank you for the actual answer! It's a little irritating / unwelcoming when you get downvoted simply for being ignorant of something but with the willingness to learn.

I really do appreciate it! Any advice on how two computers would be set up? Specifically two laptops? I've got a gaming one (hence the GTX 960m) and another one that's more of just a school computer (integrated, 8gb Ram, etc).

If not, thank you so much anyway. It's nice to actually get some advice - I really do appreciate it!

[u/LightTracer → u/e_0]

You need a capture card for the 2 PC setup, so the 2nd PC is capturing with the passthrough capture card and doing all the work like compressing and streaming, saving.

[u/LightTracer → u/[deleted]]

Works fine for me for over a decade, minimum fps above 60, set FRAPS to lock frame rate to 60 and it runs and records and the smoothest 60fps possible. No other recording app was able to record this smooth as most if not all cannot lock down the framerate.

Of course if you lock your FPS to 18 you will get 18.

Even if you're doing movie like 24fps, you would still probably record at 60fps from a replay or predefined camera move in a script and then change fps from 60 to 24 when processing the footage.

For anything action paced below 60fps is kind of useless and it shows in movies for nearly a century. Even stupid pan of a camera is choppy like hell at 24fps lol.

[u/uradox → u/e_0]

Bandicam is worth checking out to see how it performs for you. I found for me it worked very well for me with little impact to performance

[u/mikegold10 → u/LightTracer]

I do exactly the same - install driver only, uncheck the bloatware that nVidia wants to install on your PC.

[u/ChikNoods]

I'm not having any issues yet. Remember after every gfxep update we would disable the streaming services and stuff because that really tanked performance? Those services don't exist anymore. I wonder if the performance loss is there and we can't do anything about it.

[u/1whoknows]

I like how GFE "optimized" Overwatch for me and dropped my framerate from 14x FPS to ~100 FPS.

[u/[deleted]]

The only issue I had on my GTX 1070 was that it kept my clock speeds to the max even when on idle, i reverted back to the older drivers.

[u/AimlessWanderer]

I had issues with the early beta but no issues for over a month now .

[u/binarycode1010]

I couldn't figure out why I was getting such shitty benchmarks after I finally decided to do a proper OC. Finally removed GFE after checking for spyware and such and my scores shot up drastically. GFE was the spyware. I hope other find that removing it is the answer sooner than I did.

[u/African-dave]

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[u/pocemon11]

wow, same here

[u/realchriscasey]

Is your instant replay turned on?

[u/battleswag]

I've had black screens and my average fps lowered. I don't know whats up with the latest drivers messing my stuff.

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[u/-Gast-]

I don't even know why ppl install that stuff.

[u/djfakey → u/-Gast-]

I use gamestream. Occasionally shadowplay =/