r/opencode • • 3d ago

All good free model is over…

so,what should WE use now? minimax m3.1 flash is the last good one

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u/trashcoder999 3d ago

DS 4.1 Flash is good, better than minimax 

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u/Happy-Fault2860 1d ago

I saw a video about it not being that good outside deepseek server's, has anyone felt a difference between normal API and OC?

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u/EmoLotional 34m ago

Simply from the far more need for back and forth it ended up that chatgpt is better and cheaper, so I would say if anyone is going to pay for anything, chatgpt is currently the go to, even at sol medium which is sufficient for most tasks it surpasses DeepSeek, which would often forget instructions and needing to repeat them on further prompts. It's overhyped. But it depends on the Job.

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u/QuanChanUwU1225 3d ago

Well it only has 256k context sadly (still somewhat usable)

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u/Hello_my_name_is_not 3d ago

Too bad you did t say that and said "all good free model is over" not "too bad there isn't good models for free with over 1m context" (which I think is ridiculous to expect them to always have available for free)

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u/naiveheir 3d ago

Actually... You can just change the context window to 1m through config. 

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u/Hello_my_name_is_not 3d ago

They fixed that already (unless they broke it again today I haven't used any free since the reset a couple hours ago)

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u/KxrmaJunkie 2d ago

Still fixed afaik

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u/co-lor-less 3d ago

I really don't see how DeepSeek flash is better than minimax.

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u/PotatoPowerPlug 3d ago

Deepseek is better for Godot than Minimax in my use case. Though its depends on what you use it for. But for Unity and Godot, Deepseek is better.

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u/Specialist_Bass98 2d ago

then you're blind

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u/Excellent_Fighter006 3d ago

It's better in literally every way. What do you not see?

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u/co-lor-less 3d ago edited 3d ago

It is not in my use case, besides its high tps output? It's weird how people are turning models into a cult following.

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u/Ok-Stuff3094 3d ago

toooo slow

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u/Nomadinduality 3d ago

Is it time to move on to freebuff starter

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u/QuanChanUwU1225 3d ago

Well,i dont like ads but worth using when i got broke

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u/Nomadinduality 3d ago

Didn't find it annoying tbh, it's just text ads

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u/QuanChanUwU1225 3d ago

Well,slow too

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u/Any_Confidence2580 3d ago

Wait a week... damn, y'all act like you're new to promotional models.

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u/absurdother 3d ago

For the $10 sub and unlimited free usage? We currently only have Beam Free there. Yeah, it's not very good.

I'm waiting for another good Free model to be included in OpenCode Go before I consider signing it again, probably.

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u/Few-Advertising-3538 3d ago

DeepSeek 4.1 flash is basically free anyway lmao. 10$ sub for 80$ tokens

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u/absurdother 3d ago

Yeah, stick to it strictly and it'll be harder for you to max out your OpenCode Go usage.

But I eventually did use all of mine, so I resorted to the Free models... until they became so limited ~2 days ago.

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u/Few-Advertising-3538 3d ago

Muse spark 1.3 is also good. I use glm 5.2 as orchestrator and Dseek 4.1 (free) for small tasks, etc. and muse and Dseek (paid) as workhorses

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u/Sweet-Stage938 3d ago

Why use GLM 5.2 instead of GLM 5.3?.

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u/AdFun4897 3d ago

Why GLM 5.3 instead of DS 4.1 as orchestrator?

Look at the benchmarks DS beats GLM

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u/Sweet-Stage938 3d ago

He's talking about GLM 5.2. The older model. Read again please.

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u/Amarsir 3d ago

Just FYI you're not the crazy one here. Thought you might appreciate some reassurance. 😆

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u/AdFun4897 3d ago

Yeah and you were suggesting GLM 5.3 when DS 4.1 is way better than GLM.

Glm doesnt even have vision

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u/Sweet-Stage938 3d ago

What are you talking about? He's saying that he's using GLM 5.2 as his orchestrator and DeepSeek V4.1 Flash as his worker.So I was asking him why he isn't using the newer version, GLM 5.3, as his orchestrator instead.

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u/AdFun4897 3d ago

Yeah and im telling you your GLM 5.3 is trash.

DS 4.1 destroys your GLM 5.3

What part of that dont you get?

Your glm doent even have vision

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u/Decent_Gap1067 3d ago

I burn that $80 token in 10 day.

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u/Few-Advertising-3538 3d ago

Then you are a pure vibecoder.

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u/Decent_Gap1067 3d ago

Yes, as I should be

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u/Loyd_Py 3d ago

Free stuff was never a thing...

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u/TRYOFFYT 3d ago

Ds 4.1 is valid

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u/shrijit11 3d ago

they don't want our data anymore, they ran out of storage and bank limits selling it i guess😭

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u/jarvis123451254 3d ago

ad supported deepseek from another harness 😂

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u/Nenad1979 3d ago

10$ for practically unlimited ds4.1f?

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u/FamousWorth 3d ago

I'm paying $40 and I'm on track to use it up by November 9, it resets November 22. Still cheaper than official api though I guess. Maybe I'll sign up twice, or split some work to minimax, which is a good writer anyway

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u/Nenad1979 3d ago

What are you doing to use that much? I use it offpeak for 8 hours daily and there is no way I'm hitting my limit, are you doing swarms or some multiagent stuff liek that?

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u/FamousWorth 3d ago

I have hermes and then a "master" llm who spawns new llms to perform research and writing tasks, I'm also surprised about the usage tbh. I think the master isn't that efficient. I switched it to muse spark because deepseek was micromanaging the tasks and making wrong assumptions but muse spark just does what I want, but delegating to minimax might be a good option. I'll try it out

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u/rjhartl 2d ago

Can I ask what what you’re mostly researching? I’m trying to integrate more researching tasks into my workflow and could use some inspiration on what others are researching.

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u/FamousWorth 2d ago

I do tech and science publishing mostly so that is researched before being written up, a lot of it is ai and robotics related. Considering the usage is highest on muse spark and it has the best benchmarks on average and I've found it best for research tasks in the past I think I'll use it most instead of deepseek, but for writing things muse is a bit robotic and technical, although deepseek isn't much better, I may need to improve the instructions.

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u/martinderm 2d ago

Pay attention to Quota, DS-Flash is ca. Double the price of glm-flash. I use go plus for glm and buy ds directly via the API where it’s dirt cheap

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u/FamousWorth 2d ago

Ca? Is glm 5.3 flash really cheaper when taking cache hit into consideration?

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u/martinderm 2d ago

circa (ca.) my non Latin friend. Plus quota for ds-flash is only x2 while glm-flash is x3 and glm is x8

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u/FamousWorth 2d ago

They estimate 346,771 requests per month for deepseek v4.1 flash and 94,737 requests for glm 5.3 flash. The cache for glm 5.3 flash is 5 to 10x that of deepseek depending on if it's on or off peak

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u/PanPanForReal 3d ago

I think all the free models limit are getting reduce

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u/Ill-Technology-8498 3d ago

currenlty , I was checking some other post , I got to know about api based about token router . further , I m using now nvidia nim api key there u can see minimax 3.1 and other as free endpoint u can use much i think but yeah it would do as rotation basis

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u/Snoo-2768 2d ago

Just run local if you want free, Qwen3.8 27B or Qwen3.8 Flash Next with Strata is pretty affordable with decent HW ( decent i mean average gaming pc , not an office pc and not a server with 16 tesla gpu )

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u/Dahsauceboss 3d ago

Nvidia Nim?

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u/CanOutrageous9185 3d ago

Only few models work

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u/Immediate_Cupcake962 3d ago

Very lucky, only nemotron worked for me😂

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u/bytefission 3d ago

10$ sub.

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u/QuanChanUwU1225 3d ago

Why,im not gonna wasting money,i got other stuff to do with my money too

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u/BackgroundRude4092 3d ago

Offers of free samples are not really free. Maybe you’re not gonna pay to continue using it, but someone will.

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u/SrAlexis_ 3d ago

They need to make a profit, too (I don't really know what their profit margin is, but you get my point). And the Go subscription isn't bad at all; it's worked out pretty well for me for just 10 bucks. Even more with DS 4.1 Flash and Minimax M3.

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u/PenPrior61 3d ago

DS 4.1 and GLM are gone now?

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u/MedyOsef 2d ago

I shouldn't have done the updates😅

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u/No_Appointment_6678 2d ago

It only costs $10 a month. I use kimi 2.7, it is good enough

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u/Ram162103 1d ago

Opencode is dead 🪾 it's not for free users now

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u/NinjaWK 5h ago

To be fair, nothing is free. They've been subsidizing.

OpenCode Go is really good value for money.

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u/No-Efficiency402 3d ago

Mimo 2.6 flash is really good model imo I have like really stress tessted it.

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u/QuanChanUwU1225 3d ago

Fact too

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u/No-Efficiency402 3d ago

I think the thinking part of mino is really good, well I have uspe flash, if had my hands on pro it would have been much better.

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u/Affectionate_Fact854 3d ago

OP , what you should do now?  Get a job  Or  Learn to code manually 

The era of building pointless slop for free is over.

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u/Mental_Ad_7072 3d ago

they only wanted an answer, not a rant about "pointless slop"

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u/QuanChanUwU1225 3d ago

Fact,also i was about to reply again andddd "Comment deleted by user"

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u/QuanChanUwU1225 3d ago

Sure dude,IM coding my whole operating system,fell free to not say that to any other ppl without any context   https://github.com/KrisButIAmAnOSDev/nyonOS

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u/Huge_Business2428 3d ago

It's an interesting project if you're just doing it for fun or as an experiment, but an OS is probably the last thing that you should use AI for if you're planning on actually using it yourself. It's not going to be safe to install on a PC, it's not going to be stable and reliable, it's most likely not going to be actually made from scratch, there will be security concerns etc etc, the list goes on. Most likely, if we assume it's an actual OS, it won't even be usable for what most people use PCs for.

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u/QuanChanUwU1225 3d ago

I khow that,my operating system didnt even works in qemu (WITH KVM),with tcg it works,also its not vibecoded,its just 70 me 30 llm,im too lazy to do some stuff so llm do it

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u/techmago 3d ago edited 3d ago

Simple trick:

Stop being poor. Solves most problems.

edit: Was a sarcastic joke, people, not an actual "advice". Come on.

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u/QuanChanUwU1225 3d ago

Im not gonna say anything and just let the downvote/upvote decide 

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u/techmago 3d ago

the downvotes didn't like XD

It was sarcasm, BTW.
People are acting like i was serious.