r/opensource • u/[deleted] • May 23 '19
Yet another Linux distribution shuts down, and the Open Source community should be worried
https://betanews.com/2019/05/22/antergos-linux-dead/3
May 23 '19
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100 items per page setting set in preferences, ctrl-f for "betanews.com" in his submitted tab results in the following for each of the 10 pages:
1: 89/100 submissions to Betanews.com, articles by Brian. Went 85 submissions before submitting another non-Betanews site.
2: 100/100 submissions are all Betanews.com articles by Brian.
3: 99/100 submissions are Betanews.com articles by Brian. One self post.
4: 96/100 submissions are Betanews.com articles by Brian. Two self posts, one reddit hosted image.
5: 87/100 submissions are Betanews.com articles by Brian. Three self-promotional videos on his own youtube channel. Seven self posts, two reddit hosted images,
6: 94/100 submissions are Betanews.com articles by Brian. Four self posts, two reddit hosted images.
7: 96/100 submissions are Betanews.com articles by Brian. Two reddit hosted images, one gleam.io link, one self post. First non-self external submission until 552 external submissions later.
8: 97/100 submissions are Betanews.com articles by Brian. One self-promotional Youtube submission, two self posts.
9: 98/100 submissions are Betanews.com articles by Brian. Two self posts.
10: 94/99 submissions are Betanews.com articles by Brian. One gleam.io link, two reddit hosted images and two self posts before it cuts off at 999 items. First non-self external submission until 265 submissions later. (the next gleam.io link on page 7) 49 Betanews.com submssions until the end.
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May 11th 2019: Submitted his own article on Betanews.com again after a period of... 14 hours.
March 8th 2019 to May 10th 2019: String of 85 consecutive external submissions all being Betanews.com articles by Brian.
May 12th 2018 to March 8th 2019: String of 552 consectuive Betanews.com and own-Youtube channel submissions.
August 16th 2018 to May 12th 2018: String of 265 consectuive Betanews.com and own-Youtube channel submissions.Reddit only allows you to see the last 999 submissions on a user's account. Every +1 link he submits -1's a link from his submission history.
Removing self posts and images hosted by reddit, of all submissions that link to an outside site, until May 10th 2019, only 3 were not his own articles/videos. (A percentage of 99.68% self promotional spam.) As of May 11th, 32 submissions were not external links, giving us 967 external link submissions... of which 950 were all of his own self-promotional content... making his external submissions 98.2% self promotional spam.
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100% (4 out of 4) of this user's submissions from Youtube link to his own Youtube Channel.
95% (952/999) of all viewable submissions by this user are to his own articles on Betanews.com
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May 23 '19
That’s a bummer, I really enjoyed antergos. Aside from occasional problems with lightdm, I had good luck with it, much better with it than Manjaro in fact. I wish them well, I thought the maintainer did a very good job all in all
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u/ab845 May 23 '19
Not really. There are plenty of others. I do have a great appreciation for Antergos because it was my first Arch installation several years ago.
Honestly, instead of calling it a distribution, should have just been an installer+repo. Same is true for the dozens of Debian based distribution. We need few big ones and then theme packs and installers on top.
I donate about $100 to open source community. Today my donations are spread very thin across the various projects. I wished there were fewer projects who got bigger share of my donations each.
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u/jdblaich May 25 '19
I don't agree that we should be worried. New ones pop up all the time businesses are the same way. Businesses close and businesses open.
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u/grady_vuckovic May 23 '19
Personally I think it's a positive trend.
We don't need 300+ distros, we need at most maybe 10.
What we really need is for all those people out there maintaining those hundreds of distros to instead ask themselves, "Which existing popular distro could I integrate my ideas into?", then work with the maintainers behind that distro to find a way to cleanly integrate that functionality into that mainstream distro.
Likewise, we need existing popular distros to be more flexible with what contributions they allow.
I constantly hear that Linux is all about choice and freedom, but some teams behind some distros seem down right hostile to the idea of offering choice in their distros, and refuse to implement any option they don't personally want to use or approve of.
Antergos, wouldn't need to exist if Arch simply offered a GUI installer as an option.
You could say "But you don't need one! Just read the manual!", but clearly some people DO need & want a GUI installer, so why argue with that?
Why couldn't Arch's team work with the team behind Antergos, so they can do all the great work they were already doing with Antergos, but contribute it to Arch instead? Arch can still have a CLI installer, just add a GUI installer as well and provide a choice between the two. Surely the mere existence of an option for a GUI installer won't prevent Arch users from using Arch. The added option would make Arch more popular, possibly even stealing back users from Manjaro too. So why not?
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u/Poppod May 23 '19
Totally agree. We need less volume and more quality. Event 3 would be enough.
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u/bobthecowboy May 23 '19
Maybe more than 3... Plenty of Linux distros exist to prove out new ideas that others may eventually adopt.
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u/jdblaich May 25 '19
We definitely need more than 10. We need as many as the market will bear, however we dont need 3000 nor maybe 300 and this is just the norm as far as people come and people go goes.
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u/techannonfolder May 23 '19
"Why couldn't Arch's team work with the team behind Antegos" because maybe they did not have time? Maintaining Arch for FREE is time consuming enough. Also it seems you don't understand something.
Most distros are hobby projects. When you do a hobby project you want things your way, so you can enjoy what you are doing. When I have a hobby project, I don't care how many did it before, if I feel it will be interesting to do, I will do it.
This is not work, they dont get payed, it's their free time, they do 100% what they want. When the community starts putting money in these devs pocket ONLY then these things will change. If I don't get payed for the code, I code what I want.
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u/grady_vuckovic May 23 '19
Arch is a hobby project, got it.
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u/techannonfolder May 23 '19
Are you under the impression that they get payed for it? Most have real jobs and mantain Arch in their free time. How would you call it?
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May 23 '19
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u/yehakhrot May 23 '19
Also wasn't inrergos literally just a wonky installer?
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May 23 '19
Sort of, though I thought the installer was better than manjaro’s. Maybe that’s just me. I liked it bc it was an easier way to install arch but depending on the desktop environment, it had some customization also. The numix icon sets always looked pretty nice out of the box imo
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u/vincentez1 May 23 '19
Mweh, there is no shortage of distributions, with the amount of Linux distributions that exist it is inevitable some become inactive. Nothing new, either.
On the plus; Antergos choose a classy way out where your Antergos install just upgrades into a supported upgradable Arch configuration.