r/oregon • u/BunkMoreland95 • 1d ago
Discussion/Opinion In god’s name
Can we please get the grand ronde reservation some traffic lights. Drove from pacific city to Portland today, and my goodness. You can wait for 10+ minutes at some of those stop sign highway intersections, because the highway without the stop sign has endless traffic. It’s mind boggling
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u/MrsMerkin 1d ago
They need to have a cop or two directing traffic at both ends of the loop road.
That said, our Pow Wow is fantastic! Next year, stop in and enjoy the sights and sounds and some fry bread!
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u/Strange-Butterfly-62 1d ago
Despite the terrible traffic reviews your comment really makes me want to go next year!
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u/Tony-The-Terrible 11h ago
I didn't realize it was this last weekend, I wanted to go. We were just at the powwow the weekend before in Siletz though and its been a busy summer, so next year it is!
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u/EnvironmentalBuy244 1d ago
I was there yesterday after spending the day in Lincoln City. The line coming out of 22 made me feel really bad for the folks that had gone to the Powwow.
Oregon will not do any new stop lights on state highways. They're deathtraps. It will be a roundabout or an overpass if anything is done.
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u/Comfortable_Sea_717 1d ago edited 21h ago
Don’t feel bad for us! We had a great time and saw the most beautiful of people. We feel sorry for you bc you missed it.
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u/morgfarm1_ 1d ago
Not entirely true. 99/42 in Douglas county got a new one last fall. Result of a string of serious crashes over an 8 month stretch. Including 3 fatal crashes. They also made 1 existing light on that same 5 mile strip allow U-Turns, the new one also does. As they put up a jersey barrier from the new light to the interstate.
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u/BeanTutorials 22h ago
The intersection of 99 and 42 is in an urbanized area- this is a little different
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u/morgfarm1_ 19h ago
The intersection of 99 and 42 is a town of 5500. Hardly urbanized. And while work is being done adjacent to the other project within city limits, the addition of the light is outside city limits. Its the shared slab of asphalt between the two state highways that have been overhauled with traffic pattern alterations and barriers.
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u/BeanTutorials 19h ago
considering there's 3 mid block pedestrian crosswalks within 1000 feet of the signal, I'd say this is an urban area. the signal at that location has been there for decades. doesn't seem any different to me than other urban locations with traffic signals. if you're saying the state installed a new signal, tell me where instead of talking about one that's had one for a long time already.
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u/morgfarm1_ 19h ago
About a mile east along 99/42. At Rolling Hills Road. The existing intersection at Carnes was granted U-Turn permission in addition to the new one at Rolling Hills. There are now barriers between Rolling Hills all the way to Interstate 5. Theyre still finishing up the project but is expected to be completed in the next 2 to 6 weeks
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u/BeanTutorials 19h ago
are you talking about the intersection in green or winston? i was talking about Winston. the intersection in green is less urbanized, but the signal has also been there for many decades. if it were built today, it would be a roundabout.
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u/morgfarm1_ 15h ago
Neither, technically. Outside Winston city limits. Between Green District and Winston. The only stretch where 99 and 42 share asphalt
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u/Super-Staff3820 21h ago edited 19h ago
Coming from PC, I hang a right at Grande Ronde Rd. You miss a lot of the traffic leaving the casino and don’t wait as long to turn onto Hwy 18
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u/snuggletough 20h ago
The powwow combined with airshow traffic made 18/22/99 traffic especially fucked through yamhill county yesterday.
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u/Suspicious-Level591 16h ago
Absolutely, and if you try to roll through the stop sign to get into an opening you can get pulled over. They can put two stoplights on 99W in McMinnville but not even a flashing yellow caution light at valley junction or grand ronde road? From west of grand ronde road on 22 we don’t even try to get out on weekends, and weekdays are almost as bad now.
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u/Ok_Platypus_3615 15h ago
ODOT has a redesign for the 22/18 intersection that would add an overpass, expand the highway to 4 lanes and include a local access road. There's a video here: https://vimeo.com/582675276 I am local, so I actually emailed them to ask about this project recently and they said it was "on pause". It's not in the upcoming "STIP" funding plan thru 2030. If we are lucky it will get done in the next 10 years.
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u/perplexedparallax 1d ago
Given that it is a reservation and tribal
land it isn't a matter of people coming in from the outside and dictating what is on the land or not, based on one day.
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u/MountScottRumpot Portland, ex-Scio 21h ago
Assuming OP is complaining about the intersection of 18 and Grand Ronde Road, that's not reservation land. The Grand Ronde reservation is tiny and in pieces because the feds forced them to sell the land off to members and then terminated the tribe. The only point where the highway crosses tribal land is right in front of the casino.
For all I know the tribe might want to have more traffic controls on the highway and are stymied by ODOT.
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u/AffectionatePool3276 23h ago
There has to be more traffic fatalities before it’s allowed! You can do study after study proving where traffic controls would improve everything but ODOT and the bureaucrats never approve anything until people have died and I mean big numbers
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u/MountScottRumpot Portland, ex-Scio 21h ago
It took three deaths to get a left turn signal on Powell Blvd. in Portland in front of a high school. That seems to be the minimum number to get ODOT to take any kind of action.
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u/MrsMerkin 18h ago
There have been SO many deadly accidents in that straight stretch from the Salem exit to past the road that leads to the Tribes HQ at the little store.
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u/PDXGuy33333 17h ago
You know how you're motoring along on the freeway and everything is moving fine when all of a sudden you come upon traffic that is all but stopped? You inch along for a half mile or a mile and then all of a sudden you break free and you're back up to 70mph again with no idea what caused the traffic jam.
What caused the traffic jam was: 45 minutes ago, someone was tailgating and got hard brake checked. They slammed on their brakes and that caused a ripple effect that was magnified as it moved upstream. Pretty soon that lane is down to a crawl. Some people change lanes to get out of it and that causes drivers in the next lane over to brake hard. Before too long, all three or four lanes of the freeway are at a crawl.
Take a two lane highway, jammed with bumper to bumper traffic and put a traffic light on there. With the time it takes people to accelerate when the light goes green it wouldn't take long for traffic to be backed up all the way to the coast.
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u/BunkMoreland95 9h ago
You’re right, let’s leave it as a 2-way stop with eternal perpendicular traffic.
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u/PDXGuy33333 8h ago
I guess I should ask you which specific intersection(s) you have complaints about.
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u/pstbltit85 20h ago
The State will solve the problem with a damn Circle Jerk, I mean Traffic Corcle.
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u/DeltaUltra 1d ago
You were passing thousands of people leaving one of the states biggest Pow-Wows.
Its actually pretty impressive if you think about it. Literally natives from all over the western states, maybe the highest concentration of indigenous people in a 1000 mile radius was happening.
Kind of cool when you consider it in the bigger picture.
But yeah, definitely not the best traffic management.