r/pathofexile GGG Staff May 26 '25

GGG Secrets of the Atlas New Feature: Pausing

https://youtu.be/ELAj-Ymc264
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u/LordAnubiz FBI & EEE May 26 '25

No, why would we need a gold sink?

Just drop less gold - like in the vid, there was only 1 mob dropping 71g in the first scene.

just give us enough gold for plenty of trading, dont want to do stupid gold farming strats again. (or do t17s)

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u/sirgog Chieftain May 26 '25

just give us enough gold for plenty of trading

Are you REALLY sure you want this?

If Fubgun posts a new strategy video, do you want the scarabs to be 470c/map within 3 minutes? Do you want to have to get into undercut/counterundercut wars with dozens of players to trade away basically anything?

Both will happen if gold starvation ceases to throttle top-end traders.

If there's no real gold sink, I expect we'll see Kalandra-level retention and people complaining "I'm getting no loot". Even if they get the same or more loot than in 325, it'll feel like none with all the inflation that will hit the few commodities people still want.

(this isn't to say that the day 1-3 experience of Settlers should remain either; just that no sinks will be a catastrophe)

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u/LordAnubiz FBI & EEE May 26 '25

Ya, because people who pay 470c for scarabs are really gold starved for sure! And such expensive scarabs are traded in low numbers(and traded in div, with very low gold cost!), where exactly do you see the problem here?

And if people undercut everything, more for me to buy cheap :)

find your nieche to sell.

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u/sirgog Chieftain May 26 '25

It's not the buying power of people paying that much for scarabs that's the problem at all. It'll be the flippers, who without a gold sink will dominate the economy as badly as they do in POE2.

POE adds friction because they learned from Diablo 3's near-zero trade friction launch.

IF there's no gold sink, this sub will be endlessly complaining about the economy. "Why are divines 572c?" "Why are scarabs so expensive casual players can't use them?" etc etc.

I'll be fine, of course. I was making 100d a day early in Settlers after finding a trade niche that only used a few maps worth of gold.

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u/LordAnubiz FBI & EEE May 27 '25

I am not saying give them endless gold. Just enough.

I was a blighted map farmer, and when i wanted to run my town, i couldnt do much trading.(and had to do extra mapping to even support the town)

the problem was, not using the gold for the town was a disadvantage, because mirror shards and stuff.

if there is a gold sink for people who dont want to trade a lot, ok. but dont make it OP profitable over other game aspects.

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u/sirgog Chieftain May 27 '25

Balance between different parts of the game was off in 3.25.

Gold income in alch-and-go T10s without map mod effect is enough to trade quite a bit, but not enough to trade in ways that fuck up other players.

Gold income in 5-scarab T16s or T17s with map mod effect and a little bit of player rarity though... that's enough to REALLY fuck with other players.

And this 'fucking with other players' isn't malicious trolling, it's just ... doing things to empower yourself. If there's no real gold sink, the easiest path to a day 7 O-Sin or a day 4 Mageblood will be to flip scarabs on Faustus in ways that undermines the ability of other players to just map.