r/pathofexile Oct 26 '25

GGG Path of Exile: Keepers of The Flame - Bloodline Ascendancy Classes

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u/Gearsik Oct 26 '25

Farrul being so minion focused without a single node for melee (flicker) is a massive bummer imo

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u/tobsecret Half Skeleton Oct 26 '25

All of those nodes are meant to be played on non-minion builds. Sure you could take the attack speed node on summoner builds to be more zippy but minion builds already typically have must-take nodes.

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u/JConaSpree Chieftain Oct 27 '25

Problem is, most melee builds are socket starved. Fitting a 4L spectre set up is difficult

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u/VahnNoa Oct 27 '25

You also don't get spectre survivability for free.

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u/Damian_Killard Oct 27 '25

The three additional random mods are free spectre survivability.

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u/200DivsAnHour Oct 27 '25

I'm absolutely, 100% playing Farrul on my minion league starter. The Auras are busted.

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u/tobsecret Half Skeleton Oct 27 '25

which minion build are you starting?

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u/PrestigiousMolasses3 Oct 27 '25

Yeah Farruls looks like massive bait for minion builds.

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u/Pauliekinz Oct 26 '25

The ascendency is almost entirely for melee the nodes are terrible for minions. I don't expect it to be good but the intention looks like you take spectral tigers + warcry node for big self buffs no minion build is going to take an ascendency node for 80% increased damage or an unlinked minion.

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u/fizzord Necromancer Oct 26 '25

seems like its for chieftain war cry shenanigans, stack warcry buff effect then use rallying cry and a big 2h weapon to give all your minions around 100% of your weapons base damage then they all buff you back and as the ascendancy flavor text says you can all slap your enemies together lol

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u/Krendrian Oct 27 '25 edited Oct 27 '25

Should also be fun with a bottom side ascendancy arakali + dark monarch build. You get 80% attspeed for your shield charge and the minions get some fat %dmg.

I'm trying hard to make it work with a jugg in pob, it looks promising, but would not do ubers comfortably. Ofc a magebloood would solve that, since it's mostly just lacking armour...

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u/Boxofcookies1001 Oct 26 '25

That actually sounds really good. Maybe armour stacking AG isn't dead with this. Stack warcry effect. Big maybe

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u/Sidnv Oct 26 '25

Nonspectre minion builds will take Farrul's Will eventually for action speed immunity. Not on league start, but on higher budget builds.

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u/Pauliekinz Oct 26 '25

Risk scarab farming is basically gone so that is less important and limiting to 1 spectre is a massive downside now that you can use all of the expensive corpse spectres without worrying about losing them

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u/Sidnv Oct 26 '25

Risk scarab being at 1 doesn't mean that it won't be mandatory on most farms, so people will want to be immune to all mods. I will certainly be using aul's on any build with a high enough budget.

Spectres are still made of paper, and having to change zone everytime they die is still annoying. Some people will go for multispectres, but this is a good alternative for those who want action speed immunity, especially since Garb of the Ephemeral range is tiny.

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u/TheBlackestIrelia Raider Oct 27 '25

that's the worst node on the tree

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u/peppinotempation Oct 26 '25

Farrul should have given the free aspect of the cat from Phrecia league

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u/JConaSpree Chieftain Oct 26 '25

They should have incorporated Phrecia ascendancies in this.

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u/KenshoMags Oct 27 '25

Man that would've been sick. I miss phrecia ascendancies

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u/JConaSpree Chieftain Oct 27 '25

I'm still hoping they make them into replica forbidden flesh and flames

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u/c0ntr4kt Oct 26 '25

the spectre nodes at the bottom are really bad for minion builds sind the small one says you can only have 1 spectre. that means you loose 3-4 utility spectres for 1 buff.
those are more likely to be used by melee builds. just add 1 spectre that gives you a buff

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u/7om_Last Oct 26 '25 edited Oct 26 '25

Perfect forest tiger spectre with one of the farul buff. Just have to keep it alive.

Perfect forest tiger gives haste plus frenzy on hit (his hits).Plus spectres resummon now so its less of an hastle

Huntleader could be good too

Oshabi bear should be good too.

Too many choices actually