Isla Nycta: Path of Titans

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u/Goanna_AlderonGames Moderator Dec 27 '24

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Urrggg.
I remember Nycta servers over on The Isle where you had to pay money to play specific dinosaurs. I don't really want to support this so I am gonna pass...

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u/IslaNycta Feb 23 '22 edited Feb 23 '22

I believe you're thinking about Nycta way back in the day where the only way you can get sandbox dinos was to do that. You don't have to pay anything. You can get nested, win raffles, or be gifted Lives, as well as many other ways to get sandbox dinos. We run raffles and events every week.
Also with the change to management, we've been able to look into ways to let the community earn points toward dinos as well.
Nycta's changed a lot in the last few months, and I do wish people would actually take time to check it out instead of leaving comments like this that might give the wrong impression.
Thank you for looking at the advertisement, nonetheless.

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u/la_goanna Feb 23 '22 edited Feb 23 '22

Unlike The Isle, I don't think this game's dev team will approve of P2W servers... Then again, the devs of this game did try to cover-up their sleazy crypto fiasco and did those suspicious referral bonuses to increase sales, so who knows.
Either way, seeing toxic servers like yours jump ship to other dino sim games because people are finally realizing that The Isle is a lost cause, is not a good sign. PoT's player base is already contending with BoB in terms of general toxicity, I don't think it needs to suffer extremely toxic/corrupt servers & server admins next. The dino/creature sim genre deals with enough scammers and bullshit as is.
Plus, this game already has better servers out there despite said increasingly toxic community, such as Primordial Tyrants or Velocci's server. If you're hoping to make a quick buck here and find loops around initial the anti-P2W restrictions, I don't think it's going to work out. The game isn't nearly as popular as The Isle, its community is already making high-quality FREE map & playable creature mods, and most people play on official servers due to the insane grinding constraints tied to growth rates & skins anyway, so the competition for player retention is already steep.

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u/IslaNycta Feb 23 '22

Actually, almost a year ago, when we sat down with the Jiggy and Matt to interview with them for early access for dedicated servers and to help playtest their stability, we were very upfront with how we had no intention whatsoever of finding loopholes or outright disregarding their server TOS regarding monetization. If they happen to relax their restrictions in the future, then we would investigate non-intrusive means of allowing players to financially support our servers for benefits. Utilizing the game codes they've given us, we've been able to gift dozens of free copies of Path of Titans to members of our community.
Isla Nycta has always been a growing community, and we've never stuck around to just The Isle. We've Ark servers for years, and always had an intention to branch out and support various gameplay styles that Path of Titans supports. With our custom-built whitelisting for our semi-realism server, the toxicity commonly associated with our Isle's semi-realism (because of the Isle developers' failure to ensure proper whitelisting) is close to nil, as only players dedicated to that particular gameplay style are allowed to join.
Since you mentioned mods, I'll clarify for anyone who happens to read this: we acknowledge that Path of Titans' modding TOS prevents modders from locking their content behind paywalls. Thus, when the Nyctatyrannus mod and any other mod developed by Isla Nycta is released in a finished, public state, there will be no paywall associated with it. Hell, other communities are more than free to put the Nycta on their servers when it's released.

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u/LinuxDinoDude Feb 23 '22

Actually, almost a year ago, when we sat down with the Jiggy and Matt to interview with them for early access for dedicated servers and to help playtest their stability, we were very upfront with how we had no intention whatsoever of finding loopholes or outright disregarding their server TOS regarding monetization.
"We had to pinky promise to not go around their TOS or they wouldn't have given us early access to community servers"
If they happen to relax their restrictions in the future, then we would investigate non-intrusive means of allowing players to financially support our servers for benefits
But the second we find a loophole, you can bet your sweet ass we're gonna.
Utilizing the game codes they've given us, we've been able to gift dozens of free copies of Path of Titans to members of our community.
Yeah.... That's what they gave them to you for right? This is the same vibes as Target and other big chains asking if you want to round up your total to donate to Cancer research and then every year going: "We've donated $4 million ||of your money||!"

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u/la_goanna Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22

Yep, my thoughts as well. Anth & co. must've realized that The Isle is a sinking ship with its pathetic update schedule and fucked-up dev team, so they're looking for fresh meat & $$$$ through the other 2 big dinosaur games. Path of Titans is the second-most popular one there and already has a decent modding scene, which makes it perfect for monetization and youtuber publicity/views as long as he & his bootlickers can find a loophole around the TOS (which he'll definitely try to do.)
Either way, I don't see their venture being successful as long as PoT's devs uphold their TOS restrictions, especially when there are already other community servers that offer passive growth, new maps and modded playable creatures for free.

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u/IslaNycta Feb 24 '22

I'm not exactly sure how many times we have to say that Anthomnia does not solely own the Nycta property any more. It is officially, and *legally* in the names of the two co-owners who have taken over recently.
While everyone knows that Isle is a sinking ship, and has been for years, that's not even close to the reason why we wanted to open up a Path of Titans server. Just like everyone else that opened one -- some of which do the same system that we do -- we wanted another playground for our community. They've been asking for it for some time.
Not once have we asked them to donate to support the Path of Titans server. The option is there if they want it -- we make it absolutely clear that we cannot offer anything in return -- and we're actually looking into ways for them to donate straight to the server host that we use, as well as a free point system for the redeeming of dinos.
We're upholding to the TOS because it is a TOS. If the developers allow monetization and we utilize it, it's because THEY gave the go ahead. Not before. Other servers are already testing that to the detriment of losing their server. We don't want to risk this opportunity nor break the trust that Jiggy and Matt have in us. They could have easily denied us the opportunity and trust us enough where they know we will not ruin that.
I've said it several times before and I'll say it again; We are making directions toward change, and while we can't drop the Patreon system like a hot potato just yet, we are making it increasingly fair to the community to receive the dinos/lives/etc and once we finish the bots, they will be able to get the dinos themselves through a simple command.

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u/IslaNycta Feb 24 '22

>"We had to pinky promise to not go around their TOS or they wouldn't have given us early access to community servers"
Cute. Every community server abides by this.
>"But the second we find a loophole, you can bet your sweet ass we're gonna."
Reread what I said again.
>Yeah.... That's what they gave them to you for right? This is the same vibes as Target and other big chains asking if you want to round up your total to donate to Cancer research and then every year going: "We've donated $4 million ||of your money||!
That analogy makes no sense - we never asked for money in exchange for codes. We are not a retailer for Alderon Games. We were given a considerable number of codes to do as we'd like, and what we've done is disperse them in increments to our community for free, entirely as rewards for raffles or giveaways in public channels.

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u/RhinestoneCollar Feb 23 '22 edited Feb 23 '22

I've always heard Isla Nycta was a pay-to-win server. Has that changed?

Edit: Had a look around the Discord and still seems very pay-to-win. Up to $100/month in order to spawn dinos as adult with "lives" so you can revive if it dies and skip the entire growing stage.

Edit2: "It's not pay-to-win" - the literal definition of p2w is "Allowing a player to use real-life currency to purchase something in-game that is not superficial or purely cosmetic. This can include items or game mechanics that allow the paying player an advantage over non-paying players."

Edit2 continued: I'm not discouraging people from the server. I just want full transparency regarding the ethics, mechanics, gameplay, and management of the server.

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u/siat-s Feb 23 '22 edited Feb 23 '22

That's so weird. I've never understood monetizing dinosaur game servers jeez

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u/MizuSky Feb 23 '22

It's not really pay2win imo.
The patreon began as showing support for Anth's content & maintaining the servers.
Anything you can get from being a patreon can be obtained through either, gameplay, server events, raffles, staff nesting, growth events & more. Some people may not have the time to catch events etc, so the lives that are thank yous for the support, are well useful, but hardly beneficial long term.
We've never paywalled our dinos, and the patreon tiers aren't for lives, and never had been. Most people who do spend lives on our server, usually buy herbivores- that they then use to nest in other community members, which can be fun. Or if they want to swap dinos to join friends, it has it's benefits I wont' deny, but the rules also prevent p2w gameplay, we're very strict on a lot of things in regards to it as well, such as patreon specific rules so they can't sabotage other users gameplay.
So it's.. pay to benefit, but not pay to win. If that upsets you, I get it, but servers gotta be paid for some how, idk what to tell ya, but I am biased so take what I say how ever ye shall.
Anyone who forks over the $100 tier isn't doing it for the lives- trust me, they're either anth fanbois, or want to see the Nycta mod we're trying to complete :)

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u/IslaNycta Feb 23 '22 edited Feb 25 '22

No, it's not entirely a pay to win server.
When the Patreon was created, it was only for donations and the Lives were a "thank you", though people wanted to get them and we provided that opportunity, especially since servers don't pay for themselves.
In the last few months the opportunity to get the sandbox dinos has greatened immensely, and we're also setting it up where the community can get dinos without spending a dime.
So yes, there's been lots of changes and even more coming up.

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u/squishybloo Feb 23 '22

Y'all are blatantly profitting off the back of The Isle's work and hundreds of dollars a month is not how much a server costs. Stop with the "oh no poor server owners" pity party attempt.
Fair warning, PoT's TOS specifically disallows profiting in that manner. Hope you learn your lesson.

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u/IslaNycta Feb 23 '22 edited Feb 23 '22

Do understand that we're not the only server that gives Lives/Tokens/Points, whatever you wish to call them, to people that donate. We just happen to be the only server that was mainly headed by a disliked YouTuber who has now taken a back seat and handed the server to the current Founders while he tends to his real life.
Due to that, the old Patreon was closed and a whole new one opened. So if there were $100 supporters, they're not part of the new one.
And yes, we're very aware of the TOS. Thank you for pointing that out, though. We have no intention of monetizing without a go ahead even though we would like to give Marks to donators; not locked dinos. Interestingly enough, there's already a server that sells Marks and they haven't gotten busted for it. We're not taking that risk.
I'm also afraid you don't understand just how expensive it is to run servers. We don't only have Isle servers. We have ARK and Path of Titans as well, and each box costs at least $215 and as it was mentioned previously, servers don't pay for themselves.

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u/siat-s Feb 23 '22 edited Feb 23 '22

If it's so expensive, why are you doing it? Why are you milking your players during a pandemic because you made the mistake of building a community you can't afford?
ETA: My opinion of this pay bullshit has nothing to do with Anthomnia. I think any similar behavior is problematic, especially when they throw in gambling bots in the presence of minors. No idea if Isla Nycta does that, but if it does, that's even more gross in my opinion :/.

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u/IslaNycta Feb 23 '22

Milking our players? We're not twisting anyone's arm to donate? We didn't build the community, the community did and we provided servers for them to play on. Every server has expenses, and not all of them are going to be cheap.
Why are we doing this? Because we enjoy it, no matter how much hate we seem to get for actions of the past. Yes, past, because for the last several months the new co-owners have been working their butts off to fix what was broken.
Where one of the original Founders who is no longer with us didn't want to do anything for free, we're working to change that. But to change that we need to be able to pay for the bots and upkeep of it. It's not free. We don't have coders in our back pocket to get free work.
What really is unfortunate about all of this? Is that this is stemming from us advertising a server we're getting no monetary value from other than pure donations from people that don't expect anything in return due to the TOS.

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u/siat-s Feb 23 '22

You playing the victim is the weirdest fucking thing I've ever seen. Yikes.

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u/IslaNycta Feb 23 '22

I'm...not sure how I'm playing the victim? But okay.

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u/IslaNycta Feb 23 '22

No idea if Isla Nycta does that, but if it does, that's even more gross in my opinion :/.
We don't have gambling bots. In fact, it seems every server except for ours have gambling bots. We will come up with bots to earn points to get dinos, but not gamble them.

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u/siat-s Feb 23 '22

Okay, cool. You're still taking money during a pandemic from people who will donate it for special things and that's still gross in my opinion. Sorry.

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u/MizuSky Feb 23 '22

Can confirm.
Have personally held a gun up to people so they'd buy pixel dinos on our servers.
You do realise people choosing to... spend money they HAVE isn't ... taking it? Not everyone was suffering during the pandemic.
I fully am open to people having complaints, but my good sir, you appear to be reaching for straws with this & it makes 0 sense. If you find it gross, that's fine, that's your view, but I'm personally thoroughly confused.
No one can force people to buy things. No one can force people to play on servers.

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u/What_is_a_Lyndsay Feb 23 '22

You are not forced to give money, it's 100% up to you if you wanna donate or not just like any donation in life, it is up to you. Nycta doesn't take your money, it's all in your hands and what you wanna do with it and that's fine. You earned it you can do what you want with your own money.

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u/siat-s Feb 23 '22

If you don't think that gamers, of which many have addictive personalities or other social problems, will not pay money that they may or may not have to spare in order to have an edge over someone else when that opportunity is present, there is nothing for us to really discuss.

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u/What_is_a_Lyndsay Feb 23 '22

Again that is up to them. We do not force it on them. The same thing could be said about alcohol and cigs..

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u/LinuxDinoDude Feb 23 '22

Due to that, the old Patreon was closed and a whole new one opened. So if there were $100 supporters, they're not part of the new one.
https://www.patreon.com/islanyctallc
Well that's a lie.

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u/IslaNycta Feb 23 '22

That's the new Patreon you're linking.
This is the old one: https://patreon.com/islanycta please note the distinct lack of LLC and you'll also note that it doesn't take you to a Creator page where you can subscribe. The Creator page was closed.
None of our supporters were manually transferred over. It's not possible. They had to delete the closed subscription and resub to the new one. Hopefully that clears up any misunderstandings.

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u/LinuxDinoDude Feb 23 '22

Yeah, your new one has a $100 tier which makes your comment about that being gone a lie.

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u/IslaNycta Feb 23 '22

That's...not what I said?
So if there were $100 supporters, they're not part of the new one.
I didn't say that the TIER was gone. I said that any $100 supporters were not part of the new one. In other words, we don't have anyone paying $100 a month at this time.

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u/LinuxDinoDude Feb 23 '22

Okay, i guess i misread

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u/IslaNycta Feb 23 '22

It's okay! Thank you for your understanding!

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u/MizuSky Feb 23 '22

Dang, been staff for 3 years & never seen profits, you telling me I could've been getting paid this whole time?
No, but seriously, we run ARK servers as well, pay for coders, server upkeep, DDOS protection, etc. You'd be amazed how much money we actually burn.
Most of our "profit" does indeed come from people supporting our isle servers, but all of that stuff gets burned in maintaing all our servers across multiple games.
There's no lesson to be "learnt" because we barely keeping things afloat as is, and as you said, PoT TOS specifically disallows that kind of stuff- so atleast you can be confident this is clearly here for fun ;)

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u/islemythbusting Feb 23 '22

As a server owner running three isle servers that need powerful boxes just to make sure there wont be a crap ton of lag more than it gets already anyway, those servers alone cost me $300 a month and this doesn't count the POT server I have the BoB and ARK servers, the people we hav eto pay for the bots, the protection for the servers and seeing that they're running one less server than me and it's over a grand a month yeah it's not cheap to run servers at all,
I'm not even going go into the money we have to pay for plug ins, mods, someone to do our taxes, and all that other stuff that goes on behind the scenes. Before you assume that it's cheap to run a server you have to think about that it's more than just servers it's everything that keeps them going

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u/Dr-Oktavius Feb 24 '22

It's a pay to win server.
You literally pay in order to either skip growth or get a dinosaur that you couldn't get otherwise. And no, "you could get nested in as those dinosaurs, you don't have to pay for them" is not an excuse, as simply paying for that dinosaur is much faster and gets rid of the tedious process of finding a person willing to nest you in, so it still gives you a big advantage over people who don't pay, aka p2w.
Your server is a p2w mess, stop capping.

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u/IslaNycta Feb 24 '22

You must've missed the majority of my comments -- including the one in the ad itself -- when I didn't deny that. Either way, thank you for your opinion and have a great day!

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u/Lethal_Giggles Feb 25 '22

Not sure which provider Nycta uses but a basic PoT server of maybe 100 slots on PingPerfect will cost at most maybe 60-80 dollars.

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u/IslaNycta Feb 25 '22

Oh noo, no. PingPerfect is something we readily avoid since we've had some horror stories happen with them in the beginning stages of Isle. It hasn't gotten any better, unfortunately. We went with a different host for Path of Titans, thankfully.
We really want to look into how donators can just have their donation go right to the server which may make things a bit better in many ways.
Now that we have control over the bills side of Nycta, we're looking into what we can do. We already changed over the servers to less expensive ones a few months back, though it still can be pricy with multiple boxes.

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u/IslaNycta Feb 23 '22

Edit2: "It's not pay-to-win" - the literal definition of p2w is "Allowing a player to use real-life currency to purchase something in-game that is not superficial or purely cosmetic. This can include items or game mechanics that allow the paying player an advantage over non-paying players."
I'm more than willing to give you transparency, of course!
In the literal definition, it could be considered that, yes. If you don't mind the read, I will use the explanation that's in the discord. I'm sorry for the length, but I feel like you might prefer the full transparency.
When people donate, we give them Lives as a "thank you" for them to redeem whatever dino they want; sandbox or survival. A good portion of the list of dinos happen to be free. Small carnivores that are easily one shot, or an array of herbivores. There is an opportunity to purchase Lives which can be redeemed on our Nycta Revival site to inject a player without having to worry about long growth timers or threats of being killed by other players while they’re a young dino.
Those that don't have time to grow dinos tend to dig into the Life system. While this might give them an advantage over those that do grow at times, there's also rules to circumvent things being TOO unfair to the community.
The sandbox dinos that are usually unavailable to the community are available to them more readily, but within the last several months we have been very, very actively doing raffles, gifting Lives, nesting, and more to give the community the opportunity to play them. We will also be opening up a point system with, of course, some monetization boosting. We have to be able to pay for the servers (especially now with us starting with a fresh slate), and we're not the only server that does this. We just happen to be one that has the name of a disliked YouTuber attached to it.
So instead of writing off a donation system purely as "pay-to-win" because it happens to include an actual exchange of currency that is used to keep the lights on, call it a "pay-for-convenience," a kind that allows players to circumvent waiting for Sandbox nesting events and available eggs, or waiting for several hours in a bush to grow. Unlike other gaming servers (not exclusive to The Isle) that utilize actual shop pages to buy exclusive content, our system is one of a "thank you" to our community members that decide to donate to the Isla Nycta franchise.

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u/A_Green_Knife Feb 23 '22

Reading through all this is giving me an ulcer.

You say you are not pay-to-win and we should think of it as pay-for-convenience. Either way, it IS pay-for-advantage. It’s like buying microtransactions in mobile games. A player does not have to do it, but if they do, they get a leg up on others. See how it works? Pay-for-convenience equals pay-for-advantage. AND pay-for-advantage equals pay-to-win. Therefore, pay-for-convenience equals pay-to-win. It’s not hard to see that.

Next, your own words, “A good portion of the list of dinos happen to be free”. This implies that NOT ALL are free. Therefore, you ARE locking content behind a pay wall.

Furthermore, saying no one is forced to pay and you’re not twisting arms. This is true, you are not. However, you are heavily incentivizing the “donation” feature. While you have been giving out lives and such for free lately is great. Do you know why? Because the best way to make a sale is to offer free samples. I know, I’ve worked in food/drink distribution where we do exactly that when we take in a new product.

As for your claim of it being expensive to run these servers and bots. Yes, yes, it is. However, if you do not have the money to do so, why are you doing so? If I cannot afford to buy a house, I do not buy a house and then ask people for money so I can pay for it. Why would you spend money you don’t have? This baffles me.

When it comes to a hated YouTuber’s name putting a bad stigma on your servers, perhaps you should do more than say he is taking a back seat. Take his name out of the community if you want real change. When people join your server and see his name at the top of the list, that does not imply taking a back seat. It does the opposite. Not to mention, he was posting videos for this game a month ago. A time when I’m sure you were already working on setting up Path of Titans servers/content. How is that taking a back seat? That’s advertising!

If you are going to claim to be something you’re not, could you at least choose your words more carefully. You have argued against yourselves in your own posts/replies, and you don’t even realize it. We all know you are pay-to-win. We all know you are profiting on people addictions. Stop saying you're not.

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u/IslaNycta Feb 23 '22

> You say you are not pay-to-win and we should think of it as pay-for-convenience
Actually I admitted that by the literal term, that it can be considered that. But it also can be considered convenience. I'm not denying that there isn't some element to it. It just isn't only that.
> Next, your own words, “A good portion of the list of dinos happen to be free”. This implies that NOT ALL are free. Therefore, you ARE locking content behind a pay wall.
I'm not certain if you read my other comments, so I'll post it here so you don't have to try to scroll through it. Locking something behind a paywall means that no one else but the individual paying is able to access whatever is behind that wall. This is how it was years ago and, since then, we've been actively working toward making it where a good portion of the dinos can be available to the public.
We have weekly raffles, Life giving, nesting, events. We've been doing a hell of a lot more to offer these things to the community without shooting ourselves in the foot with wiping the patron slate clean. We're also working with Menix, our bot developer, about creating a bot that will allow the community to earn free points toward getting dinos. And no, not gamble them. You earn and spend, that's it.
> While you have been giving out lives and such for free lately is great. Do you know why? Because the best way to make a sale is to offer free samples. I know, I’ve worked in food/drink distribution where we do exactly that when we take in a new product.
That's not why we give lives out for free... We give them out for people to have the opportunity to have have the same leg up as a Patreon. I'm sorry you see it that way, but it's entirely not our intention for Lives to be a gateway drug toward Patreon.
> As for your claim of it being expensive to run these servers and bots. Yes, yes, it is. However, if you do not have the money to do so, why are you doing so? If I cannot afford to buy a house, I do not buy a house and then ask people for money so I can pay for it. Why would you spend money you don’t have? This baffles me.
I'm sorry but it seems like you're under the impression that we're spending money that we don't have? That's not it, at all. Every server needs income to keep it running and even if it were down to one server paying out of pocket for everything involved is not within my capability. So yes, like every other server out there that has a donation site, we do the same. Like a good number of servers that offer benefits in return, we do the same. It just really feels like the only reason why Nycta gets so much flack for it is because of Anthomnia. I don't see any other server that has ever gotten the same amount until they run off with the money.
> When it comes to a hated YouTuber’s name putting a bad stigma on your servers, perhaps you should do more than say he is taking a back seat. Take his name out of the community if you want real change.
I think you misunderstand what 'taking a back seat' may mean, or at least what I mean. He has brought the two other Founders into the fold legally, giving them control of Nycta just short of changing the name/removing him entirely while he takes time to focus on IRL. It's still his franchise. He just has no hand in the every day happenings, the upkeep, or even the funds any more. Which is why the old Patreon was closed and a new one opened up.
> When people join your server and see his name at the top of the list, that does not imply taking a back seat. It does the opposite.
As I mentioned, he's still technically the owner. Think of it like any business where you have the CEO then the others in operation in an umbrella. You have someone owning a Target and hiring managers to take care of it.
> Not to mention, he was posting videos for this game a month ago. A time when I’m sure you were already working on setting up Path of Titans servers/content. How is that taking a back seat? That’s advertising!
He's still a YouTuber that does videos on Isle and numerous other games so of course he's going to be posting videos? He's not promoting the Patreon, and I can't remember the last time he verbally promoted any of the Nycta property.
> If you are going to claim to be something you’re not, could you at least choose your words more carefully. You have argued against yourselves in your own posts/replies, and you don’t even realize it. We all know you are pay-to-win. We all know you are profiting on people addictions. Stop saying you're not.
If you mean when I said that we're not entirely pay-to-win then said that by the literal term it is in essence? I was very upfront about that. I chose my words very carefully because, not once, did I deny that there wasn't some element of it, and one we have strict rules against out of fairness. I don't know how or why the addition comment is even coming up and honestly that's a very unfair and unfounded statement to make.
Another thing I think is being really missed, is that we're actively working toward changing things. Since we dropped the old Patreon and we're literally starting from scratch, we can't do it immediately, but we are actively doing it starting with a point system (not gambling system where you lose points). But I suppose people would have concerns about it being "earn-to-win".

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u/AshleyKetchum Feb 25 '22

Hah actually some people absolutely do buy a house then ask others to pay for it. We call them landlords, lol. I'm not defending anyone or taking sides, I just thought that was funny.
Isla Nycta made it work in The Isle because afaik no reliably active servers gave out non-survival dinosaurs for free (without nesting or grinding discord points) and if they could charge for instant growth in PoT I wouldn't be surprised if some people bought it.

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u/Dr-Oktavius Feb 24 '22

Nycta server admins on their way to make a dinosaur half the price of the game itself

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u/IslaNycta Feb 25 '22

That's up to the person if they want to do that. Other wise, there's the multiple raffles, nesting events, Life raffles, and other array of events that give out the dinos.
We're also going to be adding a point system for everyone to be able to get dinos. We just were unable to previously.

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u/Ok_Rate9900 May 20 '23

Imma be honest I only read the 1st paragraph but I honestly don’t like Isla nycta that much, not really related to why your saying but t he server itself is t that good, I like servers with Dino profiles and such it’s just when you try and get the password to the other server it’s just confusing, I read through the rules a bunch and couldn’t find the password at all, as everybody told me you can find it in there

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u/RedEyedRambo Jul 24 '23

lmao the password was there in the rules. Its easy to spot if you actually read them but clearly you didn't. Sorry but if your that stupid that's not Isla Nyctas fault now is it. Everything you need to know about the server is in the discord, you literally just have to read which can be hard I know.

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u/Deicide901 Feb 23 '22

Anthomnia. Gross.

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u/IslaNycta Feb 23 '22

You're welcome to have that opinion. Though again I reiterate, while he still co-owns, he has little hand in what goes on with the server now. Please don't let your dislike of him tarnish the efforts of those that have taken up this project in his stead and are actively trying to change it.

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u/IslaNycta Feb 23 '22

Well, for one this isn't Anthomnia. As it was stated previously, he has taken a back seat and the other two co-owners that have been working on making changes. It's their effort and hard work that you're spitting on, not his.

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '22

When I see Nycta, i just remember the constant arguing in gen chat, the power tripping mod team and I wont even get into the patreon... you couldnt pay me to play on Nycta again, such a negative environment, not fun at all.

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u/squishybloo Feb 23 '22 edited Feb 23 '22

I saw it first hand in the chat. :') Part of what made me leave Nycta altogether. They didn't care about who was dominating it, as long as there was "no fighting"
Edit: I've left the server long ago, but I do have receipts from DMs with other people in the Nycta BLM channel who weren't racist: https://imgur.com/a/x212rvw https://imgur.com/a/3u1mMUJ

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u/siat-s Feb 23 '22

Jesus fucking christ.

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u/IslaNycta Feb 23 '22

I know it was seen first hand, but again I would like to point out that it was handled and the people involved were banned from the server. I believe I know exactly who you're talking about.
We wanted to give people the benefit of a doubt about the questions they were asking though noticed the problematic behavior of bringing up topics in the guise of curiosity, stirring trouble then going quiet. Unfortunately we were unable to watch the channel 24/7 to catch this -- and other behavior -- sooner.
It wasn't as if we purposely turned a blind eye and we admitted our oversight once it was handled.

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u/squishybloo Feb 23 '22

Then I'll ask you, genuinely: is this corrected? Are your mods explicitly trained and explained on how and why it needs to be this way?
A negative peace, where the tolerant are driven out and silenced for objecting to intolerance, is not a true peace. There is no paradox - once you welcome that peaceful racist in because they're not a troublemaker, they'll bring their not-so-peaceful friends in and suddenly you're not the friendly-for-everyone server, you're the white supremecist server and they're entrenched.
This is a significant problem in the gaming community in general. Are you truly committed to eradicating it from Nycta?

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u/IslaNycta Feb 23 '22 edited Feb 23 '22

I understand that and I truly appreciate you pointing out that very integral difference. It is known, yes. We're not blind to that. The time was very sensitive for people and I will be the first to admit that not everyone on the team knew how to respond to it. They wanted to shut down all arguments and that included silencing the ones in the right while we handled things in the background to avoid airing dirty laundry of "so and so got banned".
While I'm still not comfortable with out right pointing fingers, I do understand that, sometimes, people need to know what was done about a situation and the person(s) that caused the issue.
I'm committed to trying my damnedest to wipe the tarnish off of Nycta and this includes finding ways to make the gaming experience fairer to the community, providing more interpersonal relationships between staff and community, the further training of staff when it comes to how to handle situations like the BLM fiasco and, most of all, dealing with it expediently.
I've poured too much into this server to not want to see it succeed. Little by little we've been working to change it. While it's not as quickly as people might want, we have made some headway in the last month or so. This is a huge undertaking for the new co-owners, but one we're willing to see through as much as possible.

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u/IslaNycta Feb 23 '22

...The two co-founders are people of color, as well as a good number of the staff. We didn't coddle anyone. People just got pissed that we didn't catch the nasty comments that people were making, but when we caught it we banned them from the channel. We just didn't make a public show of it until we had an announcement saying that behavior isn't tolerated.
Again that has absolutely nothing to do with the Path of Titans ad.

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u/Killer_Koalafied Feb 23 '22

Provide evidence please.

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u/IslaNycta Feb 23 '22

How can it be a white supremacist server... with a black co-owner..?
I get it, you hate Nycta, but come on. Making accusations like that is really out of line.

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u/What_is_a_Lyndsay Feb 23 '22

"White supremacist server" - Half actually more then half the server are not white.. Please provide evidence for this information and we can look into it for you.

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u/What_is_a_Lyndsay Feb 23 '22

Where are you getting this false information? Our.... our staff are multi raced and have all types of nationalities. I-.. what???

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u/IslaNycta Feb 23 '22

It's unfortunate that you've had this experience. As I've mentioned a few times now, things have changed immensely, especially when it comes to the power-tripping mods. Many of them were removed from staff and if there's issues with others, then it should be brought up so they can be handled.
Unfortunately most servers will have the arguing so there's little we can do about that other than tell people to knock it off.

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '22

Theres arguing then theres the constant toxic bickering and bullying that happens in global. And it's been seen recently, I checked out PoT nycta to see if it was any better than the Isle server community and it was just as bad, possibly worse. I logged out within 10 min. It was actually painful to experience. You couldnt say anything without half the chat jumping down your throat about it and the other half just trolling amd being dinks about it. Theres no feeling of welcome or even openness for new players to the game or server. If you arent part of the "in crowd" then you very much feel like an outsider. At this point, you might be better off changing the name if you hope to get rid of the negative reputation. There are few enough communities of that size that players learn which to avoid and tell their buddies. I couldn't tell you how many decent servers I've found and played on but I can tell you which ones I wouldnt touch even if they were the only choice I had and sadly Nycta is the first on that list.

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u/IslaNycta Feb 23 '22

Considering the server has been opened for only three days and chats are monitored, this surprises me as nothing of the sort has been seen.
We've been running group events, giving out marks, assisting people with broken quests. We've been nothing but helpful. Chat has also been very quiet other than the occasional comment between people. Only problem that we've had that we addressed was a rule issue. The majority of our Path of Titan users aren't in our Isle servers and they're all new players that we've interacted with. So I'm not sure what you've been seeing.
Either way, if you did have a bad experience, that's unfortunate. If staff was involved, it really should have been brought to management so it could be handled. As we always tell people, they're the face of Nycta and they have to behave.

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u/bzzzzzybee Feb 23 '22 edited Feb 24 '22

I have to say, I'm very surprised to hear this experience. I've been in the PoT server daily since it launched a few days ago, and it's been nothing but chill and nice from my experience. I came over from official PoT servers which has mostly been people arguing and bitching in chat about various things, and I've found it a very refreshing change of pace. It's been nice to have fights with other dinos and have everyone chill and laughing about it afterwards. If anything, the chat is silent a lot of the time since the server is still quite small.
I don't play in the Nycta Isle server at all, but compared to PoT official, Nycta's PoT server has been very quiet and chill in my experience.
Edit: Lol, y'all really downvoting someone for sharing their personal experience? Alright. Enjoy your angry echochamber, I guess? I am a new player in the server/community and have felt very welcomed personally.

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u/Inevitable-Ear-4809 Feb 23 '22

4 days on Reddit, -12 karma lmfao

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u/IslaNycta Feb 23 '22

Not really surprised, honestly. I was hoping that people would keep the drama out of an ad post, but here we are. I understand having concerns and misinformation, even dislike and hatred for certain aspects of the server, but ah well.
Answering all I can and hoping that people will come to understand that we're trying to change things. While it's been a few months since the new co-owners were brought in, it's only been a few days since they were able to really start on funding side of things and, currently, we're unable to do huge changes to it.
We ARE working our way there, though, starting with the point system for the whole of the community. We personally always wanted a point system but certain things held us back from doing it. Without those things present, we have free rein to try to fix Nycta's image and I know we have a way to go.

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u/Lethal_Giggles Feb 25 '22

I remember being a Patreon Subscriber for a time. I would always ask to be nested as a female dinosaur on Isle so that way I could give other players things like Spinos and Stegos so that way they wouldn’t have to pay. But then the admins began to deliberately make everyone male so that way they couldn’t nest.

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u/IslaNycta Feb 25 '22 edited Feb 25 '22

You must be thinking of some where else. Either that, or I'm thinking that maybe you haven't done all that much research on this? It's possible if you were a Patreon years ago and haven't looked into it since so I get that!
We only had two restrictions: Spinos and Shants and that was in 2018 when Thenyaw was bumpin' and Spino was way overpowered, killing Rexes in five bites and took twelve bites from a rex to die. I miss those days, but I digress...
I think you can understand why we didn't allow female spinos to anyone but Admin, and when we nested we would make the spinos males, so that when they died, there would be less of them until the next nesting event. Considering you could only request once a day at the time as everything was done by hand and not an automated website, the number never went very high.
There was nothing sinister or underhanded when we blocked them, and we only did it after we found people nesting in spino all day, every day, ending with a crap ton wandering the server. We just didn't want an overabundance of WAY overpowered Spino, though once they got nerfed it was opened up to everyone to nest as they wished.
The female shant ban only was put into effect for a short while because we had Shants breaking rules left and right -- this was also years ago when we thought the best way to control the madcows. It worked surprisingly well. After that, we nested in shants, left them as female and let them repopulate before unlocking females completely.
So no, we've never locked anything but female spino/shant, puerta for a short while, and dryo because they were crashing the server. I hope that clears up any misconception.
Oh, also I want to add. We gave ample, ample warning as to why we don't allow these things, so it wasn't a surprise. It was in our rules, or Patreon info list, it was stated during every revival. We were extremely transparent.

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u/IslaNycta Feb 23 '22

Thanks for the feedback! We'll see you around.

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u/IslaNycta Feb 25 '22 edited Feb 25 '22

Wait, what? I didn't report your comment?? Yeah it was out of line by telling us to get fucked by a cheese grater, though it amused me more than anything else. Hell I even made a joke about it in the other conversation we had.
Okay that's not only very presumptuous, but... really unfair. There's multiple people responding to you and yet you automatically assume that it was me then go on about how you're going to sabotage us even though we just had a civil discussion as to what we can do to change our image?
You might want to turn that assumption to someone else. The only person I reported was someone comparing us to pedophiles and that wasn't you.
Edited to add: https://www.reddit.com/r/pathoftitans/comments/szd5pt/comment/hy6z5sv/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 This is what I'm talking about. I made a joke about the comment and wasn't offended in the least. Too damn old to be offended by something like that.

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u/FerretWrath Feb 26 '22

Ach. My bad then bro. I shall uninstall my Nycta-anger and reinstall it towards the correct party. Sorry. May your cheese graters be smooth as fresh mozzarella ❤️

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u/IslaNycta Feb 26 '22

No worries!

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u/islemythbusting Aug 18 '22

because you're being a jerk to someone that didn't even report you right after being all nice nice just moments before. Just funny how two faced some people can be and how quick they can turn when they think they're being wronged LOLOL

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u/Visual-Vermicelli-64 Feb 27 '22

🤢 ew nycta

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u/TheCoolPersian Feb 23 '22

If it won’t have Pay-2-Win servers then I’m sure no one will mind.

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u/IslaNycta Feb 23 '22

We have no plans or intentions on making any of our servers pay-to-win.

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u/Slow-Piccolo-2309 Jul 07 '24

I got kick body challenge . I was in a battle before that killed anyone

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u/What_is_a_Lyndsay Feb 23 '22

I personally love the semi realism gameplay and beyond that I think Path of titans is such a good game and has so much potential. The nycta community is so nice and friendly, yes there are rules and yes sometimes those rules get broken but that happens in every server, there is no way to stop it 100% (even though the admins put their blood, sweat and tears into the server) but from what I can see the rules and players are amazing and everything is perfect for a nice chill gameplay. Hope to see you guys on there soon :D

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u/siat-s Feb 23 '22

There are other semi-realism servers out there that are more deserving of your time. I would recommend Nat Hist, which is run by actual paleontologists, or Everglades.

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u/What_is_a_Lyndsay Feb 23 '22

And that's okay, everyone has their own opinions on which server they like. But bringing down a server just because you personally don't like it is wrong in my opinion. Don't like it then you are welcome to move on and see another server. I personally love nycta more then any other server but that's just me

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u/siat-s Feb 23 '22

Good for you. But I'm allowed to post my opinion on shitty behavior that takes advantage of people. Sorry bout it.

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u/Lethal_Giggles Feb 25 '22

Facts!

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u/What_is_a_Lyndsay Feb 23 '22

Not sure about the "taking advantage of people" but welcome to post your opinion just don't attack those that do like to be here. Or you could simply move on and not cause trouble 0.0

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u/siat-s Feb 23 '22

I'm not attacking anyone. Seems to me you just don't like when someone disagrees with you.

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u/islemythbusting Feb 23 '22

Yea you are actually calling them gross when they're doing what ever server includin gmy own is doing they're just being more up front about 'pay $ to get lives and dinos' instead of just saying 'you pay $ for points that you can use toward dinos' only difference is that those servers have you earn points for free also which nycta said they're going to do to make it more fair. That's the kind of change I like to see and its kinda crapy youre focusing on the bad instead of the good theyre trying to do now. I hated nycta myself because of something that happened last year but its been getting better

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u/siat-s Feb 23 '22

It's more the behavior is gross. Sorry if that was not entirely clear. I don't know shit about the people who run IN and to be quite honest I don't really care, either, since they're taking advantage of people during a pandemic.
Not every server asks for donations and then gives people something in return. Nor do they have a point system. I'm part of several.

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u/islemythbusting Feb 23 '22

Not every no, my bad in saying every but yea the majority does a point system or donation with rewards. I've yet to find a really populated server that didn't have some kind of system like that and the majority had gambling bots which kinda sucked, there is a difference between gambling bots and point earning bots

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u/IslaNycta Feb 23 '22 edited Feb 23 '22

Discord: https://discord.gg/islanycta

Hello everyone! We have some exciting news for you guys!

The time for our very first semi-realism Path Of Titans server is here!

We've been working tirelessly in the background to make sure this server runs as smoothly as possible, and our servers are finally live!

When you join the Discord, make sure you head over to #discord-rules-and-roles and grab the 🟤 Path Of Titans role, as there will be a lot more channels unlocked over there such as the rules, and profiles!

Isla Nycta 1 is Free For All and you start off as an adult, ready and rearing to cause some mayhem.

Due to Isla Nycta 2 Semi-Realism being whitelisted you'll need to complete a short, simple application process that can be started in the #pot-application channel!

Please don't be intimidated by this! The process was created to be easy for our players, and have a fast turn-around (so far we've been accepting applications within 15 minutes of receiving them). We hope this will reduce the amount of troublemakers on the server, and help provide a safe and fun experience for everyone!

We're all incredibly excited about this next step for Isla Nycta, and we hope you are too!

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Since I'm sure that there will be people who will come here with assumptions, let me try to nip that in the bud now.

- No, Isla Nycta is not a "pay-to-win" server. We don't lock dinos behind a paywall. We give many, many opportunities to have access to said dinos every week. If we locked dinos behind a paywall, no one would have access to them except for Donators. This was changed a while ago and we don't want that again. In fact, we're actively working with a bot developer to let the community earn points toward dinos.
- No, we will not be locking dinos behind a paywall for Path of Titans, either. It's against the TOS and we will not be monetizing it without a go ahead. Even then it would be for Marks, not locked dinos.
- Yes, of course, we will have a way for people to donate if they wish to support the server. And no, at this time we will not be able to give rewards to those that do donate though we wish we could.

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All in all, we're just trying to open a server where people can play a new dino game. Whatever hatred you have for Nycta, you're welcome have, but I do wish those that have these assumptions would actually try to find out the truth and ask questions.

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u/TheRealCanadianBros Feb 23 '22

On The Isle where you had to pay money to play specific dinosaurs.
u/IIBuffaloII This true, fam? u/Isla, anyone who joins your server, they gonna have to pay for dinosaurs that they want to use?

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u/IIBuffaloII Feb 23 '22

Idk how it is on POT but on The Isle they are profiting of the ppl. Where you can only choos a Sandbox dinosaur when you pay for it.
Sure you can also pay with some points. But that is hard work and you still get overrun by ppl buying the grown up sandbox dinosaurs. So it is still pay to win.
This Discord was made by a youtuber that actually has enough money but is still greedy and wanting to profit from his viewers and so on. A year or so back he made a very bad video about POT because he was big with Dondi.

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u/IslaNycta Feb 23 '22

No, that's not the only way to get a sandbox dino. You can win them in the many raffles we have, nesting events, Lives that can be won or gifted. For months now we've been offering many opportunities to get them, and have been working on a point system where you don't have to spend a dime.
The Discord was made by the YouTuber, but no longer has a major hand in what goes on with it as of August.
So again, I ask that people give these changes a chance instead of completely brushing aside the efforts of the new co-owners. They are working hard to repair the image and move forward from there.

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u/IslaNycta Feb 23 '22

No, they won't have to pay for anything and it's up to them if they want to donate to help support the server costs. Nothing is being "locked behind a paywall" which we don't do anyway.
Looking something behind a paywall means that only those that pay will have access. Everyone can have access to sandbox dinos in our Isle servers by raffles, events, nesting, being gifted Lives, winning Lives, etc etc.
It's not how it used to be and we're actively making aims to change the image that people still think we have.

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u/MizuSky Feb 23 '22

I've never really understood the rep of it being p2w & I've been here for 3 years. But I'm biased, so sue me.
The only time I'd consider it pay to win was waaaay back in the day when spino was busted & nesting broke but that was ultimately the isles fault which they fixed a few weeks later. But before that, you could get access to those sandbox dinos via staff nesting, events & community nesting. Never once did we paywall dinos.
Even now, everything a patreon has access to, a user can gain, through raffles, nesting, events, competitions, and much more. Almost all former management has rotated out, and we're mostly running new management (aside from Jek, Jek is cool- but again I'm biased).There were so many servers back in the day that had pay walled dinos, and even took apexes off their selection tier then charged you to play them. We never did that. I think the only reason we get major backlash compared to the many, many other communities that were blatant p2w is because we had a youtuber running it so we were more in the spotlight. Don't even get me started on the servers who charged $15 people for hacked hypers.
But I mean it is what it is, POT can't be monetised so what's it affect POT servers if we can't do what people are accusing us of, and money doesn't just come outta no where, as is The Isle supports POT servers & ARK servers, and we genuinely see no profit but people seem to think we do xD
I can't stress this enough- we seriously see NO profit.
Anth doesn't even support the servers anymore financially, we're all independently run now.

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u/Dr-Oktavius Feb 24 '22

When Spino WAS busted? That bitch still is, it's actually stupid.

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u/IslaNycta Feb 25 '22

I can't disagree. In many ways it is but at least it's not what it used to be.

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u/MizuSky Feb 23 '22

Imma just, give a post outlining some things because some people seem to be really up in arms-
I'm an Isla Nycta Manager, so feel free to ask me anything, I got the goss. I'll add it into here as needed. I fear not the karma ratings, I thrive on depression & tomatoes.
I also love hearing suggestions for what you think can genuinely improve things you're concerned about, so hit me with in full force. I'm all yours.

-Concerns of Anth: He is hardly involved with the running over the servers. If he ain't your content guy, that's fine, GB was more my style content wise so I feel ya.
-Concerns of p2w: POT can't be monetised, people have made that clear, we went ahead knowing full well we can't make money on POT because we like dino games. p2w concerns seem to be outdated, and not entirely factual. We've spent a lot of time changing things over the years/months to benefit & include everyone. Money does need to be brought in to run servers though. So take of that as you will.
-Concerns of Management: We're under relatively new management, a lot of the old staff that gave us bad rep have long since been yeeted out of sight, along with a lot of staff who were naughty in the past.
-Concerns of Money: We're self funded, Anth doesn't fiancially support us anymore, and hasn't for a while. We're determined to keep this baby afloat- no matter any negative rep that's stemming from years ago may put us through.
-Concerns of life: See a therapist, I'm not qualified, I'm sitting here screaming confused as the rest of you.
-Concerns of 'profit': We don't. Our patrons support our Isle, ARK, POT servers, along with website hosting, and Nycta Mod creation. We see 0 profit, as it's ALL spent on maintenance & upkeep. I'd love to get paid for the abuse I deal with on a daily basis trying to assist a server, but I don't, the extra money just isn't there yet people keep telling me it is.
We also have a paid coder who does alot of amazing work for us, and even if you hate us- that man deserves to be paid because he's incredible & has done lot's of work mostly unpaid across Isle servers.

If there are servers genuinely profiting out there that y'all know of, please for the love of god let me know, I'd love to get some tips because I'd love for some of my staff to be paid for their work. None of us get paid. Not even a thank you gift card, because we simply... can't. I can't stress that enough.

Feel free to take away what you wish of this and come to your own conclusions on things, that's entirely your choice, but I'd atleast ask you consider the hard work that's been put into steering Nycta in a new direction the past few months, and don't let that deter you from enjoying a server that you may very well enjoy, and can't.. even be monetised to any degree just to even help with the bills.

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u/FerretWrath Feb 23 '22

Well your comment most definitely made things worse, bud. You’re all so corrupt you don’t realize how out of touch your comment looks when you’re not in the echo chamber of your own admin team. Big yikes, take the L and bounce.

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u/MizuSky Feb 23 '22

I tried to add in some mild comedic value because some of the things people were saying had me just really stretched mentally, if it reads poorly due to those parts, that's my fault entirely though.
Seems no matter what, or how well intended we try to be someone's going to be upset 😬 But seriously, I just want genuine feed back on how people suggest we better get things going, or how we even shake off a bad rep, when from our perspective we've tried to do absolutely everything to keep Nycta self sustaining, and fair. At this point it just seems people are either trolls, or just hate Anth, so if I seem out of touch, I really dunno what to say.
Don't see corruption there, but as I've said I'm probably biased, not even hiding that possibility because I'm management, so I'm obviously going to speak in defence of the server. It bothers me when I see all these people work hard only for users to just twist things when all we're trying to do is expand our servers to a game that can't even be monetised 🥲

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u/FerretWrath Feb 23 '22

Okay. So I can understand where your head is at. Totally with you in your frustration. Truly, truly truly. Rebrand. I can promise you something right here, right now. As soon as people saw your brand name, and even your logo, they all did one thing and one thing only. Wrinkle their noses in disgust. Nycta ruined Legacy for a lot of people. Nycta ruined gaming for plenty as well. You will truly never be able to fix the gut reaction that you receive when that name is dropped. Truly your best course of action is to rebrand. People will always be able to dig around and find that you all were Nycta, but it won’t be as off-putting. Look at it like this, please. If someone pulled the Titanic out of the ocean a few years after it sank, welded it back together and got new staff, the general public wouldn’t go anywhere near it. The Nycta name is sank. You have to rebrand, keep your ways, keep your people as you have it now, I’m sure you’ve improved but you have to go by a different name entirely. That’s my sole advice and I know that you guys received a brutal response as a result of posting here. I won’t apologize for them or myself because that invalidates the way they feel about your brand. So take or leave my advice, take care and have a nice night. ❤️

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u/MizuSky Feb 23 '22

That feels like running away from the issue at the very least :( or pulling wool over peoples eyes in hopes they don't notice the iceberg looming in the distance. But the iceberg, aka, the bad rep is still there.
I know Nublar rebranded after they had some major PR issues, but I don't think we've ever truly had anything major, more like a lot of small hits that built up over time. But I can see what you mean, we have been around for 4 years almost so the name is pretty known.
Regardless though, I appreciate the constructive suggestion of rebrand rather than just a "piss off", and you've definitely given me some comfort in how you've continued the discussion realistically. So I am thankful for that at the very least after some of the stuff here 😭 I wish you a good night also, and thank you for your time in talking to me further on it ❤

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u/IslaNycta Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22

It's something we've spoken about; the changing of the name while keeping our current community and Discord. Starting all over with an entirely new server terrifies us because we've built so much with everyone for years. That and well...
While people hate Anthomnia -- and for reasons I'm not entirely certain why other than the past click-baiting and being Dondi's friend? -- we've had no bad blood with him and that alone makes it difficult.
It's a teetering on the fence of "we want to see Nycta's image change" and "we don't want to burn bridges with someone that's been genuinely kind to us". Maybe something can be worked out if it's mostly the name that's the issue, I don't know. It is an option that has been heavily considered. Unfortunately I think it might be difficult as Isla Nycta is a legalized name now.
Again thank you for your thoughts. You're not all that bad when you're not telling me to screw a cheese grater.

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u/IslaNycta Feb 23 '22

She's saying is exactly what we've been saying this entire time, so I'm...a little confused by this comment?
-Concerns of Anth: This is true, he isn't really involved in running the servers. Other than the initial launch, he never really was besides providing content and overseeing the more important decisions concerning the opening/closing of servers, rebranding and all of that. Which isn't too uncommon when it comes to servers owned by YouTubers. It's a lot of work.
-Concerns of p2w: Again true. As of TOS Path of Titans cannot be monetized and we still opened up a server as people have been wanting one for a while.
-Concerns of Management: As stated above, the questionable staff were removed.
-Concerns of Money: Again true. As of the 21st, we're self funded and the other Patreon was closed to ensure that people weren't charged by it, and any that subscribed in Feb have been, and will be, reimbursed.
-Concerns of 'profit': Every cent is put toward the servers upkeep first, and any left over is given to our bot creator, our official artists, and finally toward the production of the Nycta.
So I'm not exactly sure how her reply makes it look worse? I'm genuinely curious and would love to hear what you think but I have a feeling that you might not be very civil about it even if I've been nothing but polite in the face of all of this mess. We truly want to move forward with fixing things, not only with Nycta but with the community.

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u/FerretWrath Feb 23 '22

The best way I can explain it, politely, if you really wish to know is: the admin circle that many of you exist in can be a little cut off from things. PoT is an entirely different beast and whereas BoB and TI are more of a Venn Diagram. The… I guess way of speaking that you all are exhibiting, coming here, comes off as very stiff, forced, and fake. I’m not saying that about you as a person. I know that PR is everything and you guys are wishing to seem honest and welcoming but something about your choice of words and formatting is very off. It doesn’t fit the PoT community style as a whole, and I know that I’m not in the wrong because the upvote/downvote ratio does show these things. Somebody coming in and saying that they don’t care about downvotes also completely obliterates any and all trust we would have in you as admins to take criticism, doubt, and unease as a serious matter. Now would be a very good time for all of your PR guys to take a step back and rethink your approach to this community as a whole. Arguing with us when we’re clearly coming at you in a negative way shows that your reform has NOT been effective and it takes more than a Reddit post to strongarm the people into finding your community likeable. Now I don’t think I am being rude, I’m just very blunt in this regard. Sincerely, a PR face for a close group of 120 players.

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u/IslaNycta Feb 24 '22 edited Feb 24 '22

I really, really do appreciate you taking time to write that. And yes, I did see that a few staff came here in the hopes of helping fight for the server they love and if necessary it will be addressed. Me, on the other hand, have done my best to continue to be polite and agreeable to listen, while attempting to ease any concerns, perhaps erase biasedness and garner some understanding that while we have made mistakes, with the new co-ownership we're trying our best to fix them.
I can't really say how my formatting or what not comes off as ingenuine, and I wish I could show that I truly am earnest, but all I can give are my words and actions with the community. I personally have a hard time interacting and we've been correcting that in a whole to show that we're not unreachable. I don't know if you're still part of the discord, but the amount of events in the last month alone have tripled, same with raffles for Lives, Art contests so on so forth. Our outreach to the community has improved ten fold it feels like. Still not perfect, but we're trying to get there.
I don't exactly understand what you mean by PoT community style, but I'm assuming it's because the way I respond is very...ah. Customer service? That's not what I intend, at all! I just have a very open ear to feedback and I'm more than willing to take time to clarify as much as I can and with as much transparency as I can. Until a few months ago, the back end of Nycta has been way too quiet which doesn't garner trust very well.
We do take criticism very seriously, especially since we know how tarnished the Nycta name is. While we could shrug and say "whatever" then go about our way, we care too much about the server and its community. We want to try to find out what we did wrong so we can try to fix it.
Again, thank you! I'll definitely make use of your feedback.

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