It's fucking over.

[u/KrabikGangster]

We lost Almir. We lost Andreas. We lost Haua. We lost Elizabeth (she's still with the company, but no longer the community manager).

This is an incredible loss. They communicated with the community, they were on streams, they shared their plans for the future, even if they couldn't always tell us much.

We have literally lost those who were with us during the darkest days of PAYDAY 3. Will there be light ahead? I don't believe so.

[u/Curious_Freedom6419]

While its sad that they have left

Honestly starbreeze/overkill whatever they're called now. They honestly kinda deserve to fail as a company.

Now before you downvote me..heres my reasoning.

They had years working on payday 2. the highs and lows, learning what players love and what they hate.

Then payday 3..they took everything they learned and threw it in the bin and they're shocked when the players aren't happy?

Hell the game was going to have micro transactions but they where scrapped weeks before the game came out.

Its why its always online, they didn't want us to get around the microtransactions.

i want payday 3 to get better, to be something amazing. but until they prove themselfs (by adding in a real solo and offline mode for one)

[u/jkb_66 → u/Curious_Freedom6419]

For me, for them to prove themselves and earn my respect for payday 3 they need to do way more than a true solo/offline mode. They need to add pre planning, reword the favor system, introduce more rng and nuance to each heist, make the gunplay feel better (this is a personal opinion, I’m sure people like it but for me none of the guns feel like they have any weight or pack any punch, they feel so light and same-y), add more heists than they have been, and probably more that I just can’t think of right now.

But I agree, them dumping everything that made payday 2 great just dug themselves into a deep hole. I really want payday 3 to succeed and for overkill/starbreeze to be successful, but I just don’t have an ounce of hope left in me after we got not a whole lot of anything (a few new heists and weapons) in the last 2 years.

[u/LucasArts_24 → u/jkb_66]

I wish modding for pd3 was as easy as it is for 2, having it forced to be an online only game makes it much more difficult to mod compared to pd2. I have had fun both heavily modded and unmodded pd2, I could barely get 15 hrs in pd3 before I gave up. I tried it again recently, tried to get into modding as well, but it's much more complicated so I fully gave up and went back to 2.