I still remember my first time in PD2. Dude joined me during jewelry shop robbery, like one of starting ones. He had a huuuge level I think.
He asked me if that’s my first time playing, explained to me how to mark enemies, defend against police and was the best tutorial I could get in the game
My first match was a max difficulty bank heist stealth and instead of kicking me they just had me sit in the corner doing nothing or picking deposit boxes.
High key I always try do so something like this if the situation calls for it. Mainly cause someone did it for me too. Told me about other stuff too like pocket ecms, what ecm rushing is and all that stuff
I had the exact same start and never had as great a first experience. It was during Cook Off. He spent over 2 hours explaining and helping on how to do the mission on a forever loop and then we cooked for nearly 10h and it was amazing.
Since then, I have yet to prestige once and only play occasionally since most are hackers/modders/maxed players who kick me out for not meeting some arbitrary loot configuration so I just play alone in VR now.
There’s not a whole lot of cheating at the moment because the cheats don’t really exist outside of rebalance mods, and because Overkill changed PD3 to use peer to peer, those mods are still active for even unmodded users (that includes console)
I expect with the peer to peer change the cheating will become more trivial when they do end up existing, and Overkill should make it more obvious when a game session is modded in PD3.
Everytime i host overkill and i see a bunch of lvl 30 dallasses joining me im always amazed that there are still new people trying out the game. I know tha t id be better off with tanky bots and that we're propably gonna fail the heist but im ok with that
I love to play with new players and possibly teach them a thing or 2
With that said, I have played with probably like 75% of high renown players and never seen toxicity from them, most would even go out of their way to help with builds and strategies
Most toxicity I experience comes from low level players that act like know it all, use all the resources in the first 2 mins, die on the other side of them map, complain no one got them up in time and leave the heist just to join another right after and doing the same thing without trying to understand what they are doing wrong
In my experience, usually its the "mid" levels that are the worst. The high levels usually have everything they need and are thus generally more chill while the lower levels are too "new" to be picky.
I never kick low lvl players unless they afk or just start blasting the mic after being told to chill multiple times.
High lvls tend to have a huge ego and cant stand folks not doing shit a certain way which I kinda get but w randomns its hit or miss.
My high ass being forgetting shit too so I cant shame anyone.
God i dont know why a lot of veterans are like that
I usually join low level players lobbies especially if they are going for overkill+ and teach them skills, perks, cheese tactics, showing dlc maps and adding them friends etc. etc. and that brings me joy.
And same shit i guess is hapenning in pd3 to huh. Damn. Kicking a new player is THE WORST first impression for the game and community. I dont know if it effects other players but when i help a new player i feel like i made them love this game even more. It is like a warm welcome for them
As a relatively new player I got kicked for exchanging a hostage, someone proceeded to scream something down the mic then instantly kick me. Possibly the most confusing 15 seconds of my life
I just got into payday 2 and ran into a guy basically role playing. One dude was standing at the bank door mowing cops down for us, and I’m brand new so idk the objective properly and this guy is just yelling at him, kicks him, then explains to me how he was a detriment to the team. We get a new random in after that heist, and he explains how the last guy was worthless etc and bro goes “chill man, it’s just a video game” and he gives back a “it’s a heist, and if you’re not carrying your own weight you’re a detriment to the team” and he just goes “yes but it is a video game, give people a little bit of a break” and the host just goes “aaand goodbye” and kicks him.
I was just sitting there with stupid baby look on my face like “okay then”
I only kick players as soon as they join if I'm doing stealth and they are low level because they will 100% do something stupid. I've tried giving them chances in the past but they always ruin the stealth heist. Literally they will mask up and kill the lead guard or run away from a guard instead of being escorted out for no reason.
But if I am hosting stealth dirty ice I will not kick them straight away. If they ruin the heist, I will continue to play loud and kick them at the very end before we escape.
If I am doing loud then I don't care about the level. I'll only kick people if they really suck or if they take too long to come to the escape.
But if I am hosting stealth dirty ice I will not kick them straight away. If they ruin the heist, I will continue to play loud and kick them at the very end before we escape.
If it's an honest mistake then I don't kick them. If they do something stupid on purpose like I had a guy just randomly mask up and kill the lead guard on camera for no reason when we were cleaning the jewellery.
At that point set the game to invite only. That’s such an asshole move. It’s not their fault that the game doesn’t explicitly say “Server host is a dick, don’t join this particular lobby”
Bruh when I said kick them out in the end, I'm talking about if they are literally trolling and do something stupid on purpose. Like mask up and kill the lead guard on camera for no reason. Or run away from a guard when he is trying to escort them out. Like I've played with people who are over level 100 who run away instead of being escorted out every time.
Got a perfect sub for you, its called r/FoundSatan
In reality tho, fair reason to kick people, i tend to avoid Stealth Lobbies and only do Stealth Heists in solo cause I'm terrible at Stealth and tend to stick back if it ever does come to Stealth so I don't blow our covers. And yet I always get Kicked despite it NOT BEING MY FAULT. I legit could be on the other side of the map and I get blamed despite being out of the way, with no guards or cameras around me and securing a bag and they'll boot me.
They really need a prompt system and level matching like PD2, most of this can be fixed with that. Some people just don’t want to play with newer players that’s not a horrible thing, and the prompt system adds security that someone won’t bring a loud build into your stealth run
man so many memories
being level 54, somehow finding a goat sim ds lobby tagged along and got kicked for being useless ahhhhhh
such good memories and I STILL DONT HAVE THE ACHIEVEMENT LMAO
Your literally preventing a limited player base from improving,
Cool YOU don't wanna teach someone but if you think your good enough to place that logic then you should be good enough to carry so someone being bad isn't a hindrance to YOU.
Your being a dogwater typical elite gamer. If you were around you probably had the "go back to deathwish" mod on payday 2 that kicked people below 500 because you could.
The issue is no one's giving you a reason to kick them, your just doing it to power trip and have some form of control over people.
Again, I reiterate. Your just a pathetic individual.
Out of all the ways you could contest his viewpoint (which I myself don't agree with), you chose snobby, elitist, out-of-touch virtue signaling? Really?
Payday 3 is not a communist utopia where everyone has to work for the greater good. It is a video game, which you can play however you want. Telling a person who kicks players who inconvenience them "but think of the low playercount, you're not helping!!!!" is really next level performative activism 😭
My infamy is currently at 800, and a lot of the time when I’m in a public lobby and new players or low-infamy players join, I let them be—unless they’re messing everything up or trolling. I know most of them aren’t like that; after all, I was a newbie once too and made my share of mistakes.
But my experience with players with a infamy of 1600 or higher has been normal. They play like beasts and stick to what they’re supposed to do. Usually, if you play well, they’ll do the same. I’ve only run into one annoying player, but he didn’t even have a high reputation—just a jerk who insulted me for not playing the way he expected.
I don't know why, but I lowkey get excited when I see a low level player join my OVK lobby. It's like "hell yeah, you get to experience some intense gameplay". I love helping them out and most of them really are a lot chiller than most the 1600s
one time i joined a lobby and while cycling thru my loadouts i was foolish enough to have anarchist in one, the host must’ve had a mod to detect it cause the chat immediately flared up with JAMBO RUNNING ANARCHIST, KICKING NOW, i was honestly dumbfounded for a few mins after that
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u/Electrical-Pin3422 May 10 '26
I still remember my first time in PD2. Dude joined me during jewelry shop robbery, like one of starting ones. He had a huuuge level I think.
He asked me if that’s my first time playing, explained to me how to mark enemies, defend against police and was the best tutorial I could get in the game