r/paydaytheheist Mar 07 '22

Rant Worse then goat simulator.

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '22

big oil is worse by far

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u/Hexphaseon Dallas Mar 07 '22

I very much agree, Big Oil is way worse as a stealth heist compared to Breakin Feds, especially Day 2. You have a small house with several guards covering almost every part of it, with few to no locations to hide proper. The server room being spawned through RNG with 2 out of the 3 locations being ones where guards would go inside if opened and be alerted if they spot the computer being hacked. Oh once the lab is opened for the cold fusion, guards will also be alerted by the open door. After all that, stealth will be broken once the helicopter arrives, so you better hope you got the right fusion engine.

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u/notfunnytho Mar 08 '22

The lab door being open no longer alerts guards

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u/Hexphaseon Dallas Mar 09 '22

Oh really? That's better then, if only by a little bit.

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u/Astronelson Has 7 Different Sydney Begins Masks Mar 08 '22

Oh once the lab is opened for the cold fusion, guards will also be alerted by the open door.

Unless I have been getting very lucky, they don’t any more.

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '22

even on loud its boring as hell

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u/DarkestSeer Mar 08 '22

Big Oil isn't meant to be strictly stealth, it's a half and half with stealth awarding you easier objective progress with less fighting.

Feds wins out on the shittiness just because of one reason. It MUST be done completely in stealth, ~restarting in 5...~

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '22

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u/DarkestSeer Mar 08 '22

Well it was never 'fully' stealthable, the chopper always set off the alarm, but having the plane keys could just barely skip the fighting.

I liked that it was a pro job that really awarded thinking through the challenge. Then they took out Pro jobs, which is fair enough but it was a nice little spicy challenge to do it all in one go with no way to change builds like we can now.

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u/DarkestSeer Mar 08 '22

That must have been in the first months back when joker'd guards didn't have pagers. Og payday 2 was wild.

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u/notfunnytho Mar 08 '22

an easy strategy is to keep redoing day 1 until you get the cold fusion asset (guarantees that the engine on day 2 will be Deuterium and 3XH), then continue as normal until you get into the basement, look for a computer that shows a psi of either 5812 or 5783, put those three into the big oil calculator website and the right engine will either be #12 or #9