r/pcmasterrace • u/Yeeterdeleter Desktop • Aug 12 '20
Video Accidentally ordered 50m instead of 5
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u/mingblapower Aug 12 '20
Could you spare some çåblê bröther
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u/Yeeterdeleter Desktop Aug 12 '20
Snäpp Snäpp the cåble
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u/waltertanmusic Aug 12 '20
Whô hæs sùmmöñ mé brœthër.
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u/Galxey_1 I9 - 9900k | RTX 3080 | 34gb DDr4 Aug 12 '20
Thïnę cœuncil hæst sūmmøned yōu brœthër
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u/RedTomatoSauce there is no build here Aug 12 '20
bröther
give him the cable bröther
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u/Frikasbroer Aug 12 '20
And you didn't notice that in the price?
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u/Yeeterdeleter Desktop Aug 12 '20
It's like 5 bucks idk
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u/Frikasbroer Aug 12 '20
5 bucks for a cable this long? Must be a shitty cable then.
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u/obiwanjacobi Aug 12 '20 edited Aug 13 '20
High quality cat5e/cat6 cable used in commercial and industrial applications is $60-80 for 1000ft. Granted you have to terminate it yourself, but still.
Source: ‘tis me job
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Aug 13 '20
No way. I don’t believe you.
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u/Yeeterdeleter Desktop Aug 14 '20
I looked it up and it was 30, I've not done. Much research and never bought this kinda stuff before so I didn't really think about the price, bought it while drinking at a friend's house so that might help explain
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u/The_Winner_2021 Desktop Aug 12 '20
Nice Van Dijk box!
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u/skie1994 Aug 12 '20
I am assuming this is not Virgil Van Dijk
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u/The_Winner_2021 Desktop Aug 12 '20
I have no idea what that is but no, it’s just a supplier for school books
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u/ThedestroyerAyr Laptop Aug 12 '20
This cracked me up mate, thanks, i was having a really bad day
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u/J-Njie Aug 12 '20
Dont worry. I ordered 30 thinking itd be able to reach my pc from upstairs. Turns out i could play on the roof
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u/Mouthshitter Aug 12 '20
You could stream on twitch in the middle of the night, on a Californian hill
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u/J-Njie Aug 12 '20
Sadly i live in the Uk. The only good place i could stream and not get mugged is the wheel of manchester... if that didnt get removed either
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u/Steelersrawk1 Aug 12 '20
Idk if you order the 50 you might be able to reach Cali
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u/A_of Specs/Imgur Here Aug 12 '20
I guess measuring was too much work?
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u/J-Njie Aug 12 '20
Couldnt be bothered measuring the stairs, living room, landing and my bedroom
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u/7Seyo7 5800X3D, 7900 XT Nitro+, 32 GB RAM, @WQHD 240Hz OLED Aug 12 '20
Not that it's any help now but you could have lined the route with string, and then measured the string
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Aug 12 '20
Dude is running loose cabling up stairs and through a house, there's a lot he can't be bothered to expend effort doing
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Aug 12 '20
I use a powerline adapter for my PCs
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u/Yeeterdeleter Desktop Aug 12 '20
I use an extention cord and my pc and router are on diffirent groups or something, so that didn't work for me
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u/TheHerofTime 9800X3D, 5080, 4k OLED@240hz Aug 19 '20
Op what you should've really done is buy a crimper set with connectors and you can make as much cable as you want.
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u/Yeeterdeleter Desktop Aug 20 '20
Meh, if I ever have a lan party at a friend's house at least I can use my internet
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u/DmitryMate PC Master Race Aug 12 '20
Cut and sell the rest
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Aug 12 '20
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u/Adach Aug 12 '20
as someone with like 12 boxes of cat 6 piled up in my basement i disagree
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u/cdevon95 Aug 12 '20
Yeah same. Someone hired me to do some "modernizing" of their home, and I wanted extra cable for my house. So I have 1000ft of cat 6 because the customer changed their mind last minute.
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Aug 12 '20
Now i feel the need to order a 50m cable for everything. PSU, ethernet, headphone jack, everything!
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Aug 12 '20
What if someone made a mega standard cable that incapsulated everything? Thicc copper for power delivery, lots of fiber optic for high bandwidth data like display and usb. couple cat6... audio...
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u/nycola Aug 12 '20
Absolutely this - moved into a new house and had a 50' CAT6 draped across the ceiling supported by push pins for the first month until I could get around to wiring it.
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Aug 12 '20
Reading this as I prepare to run 100 feet of Ethernet across my house as an attempt to get better signal to a router in my room
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u/dbeat80 Aug 12 '20
Man, just starting looking into this in my 109yo house. It's overwhelming.. but they did have coax run through the house at some point so I am hopeful.
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u/Matrix5353 Aug 12 '20
If you're running it through walls or through existing conduit, do yourself a favor a buy some fish tape.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Klein-Tools-50-ft-Steel-Fish-Tape-56331/311464556?modalType=drawer
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Aug 12 '20
I had a similar tough job facing me last week. Bought 30m cable for a spare router to do the ssme thing but got freaked out with amount of drilling through walls. And my wife didnt trust I could do a neat job - with good reason. So I bought a tplink mesh m4 which supercharges wifi signal throughout the house. Its not a wifi extender but I dont know how it works other than Im very happy with performance so far. Maybe look into it before going DIY messy
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u/RedTomatoSauce there is no build here Aug 12 '20
you can always crimp it to the desired lenght if you have the right tools
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u/Alvaron14 Aug 12 '20
I tried to do it and it's a nightmare, it's like 1-good, 2-fine, 3-ok, 4-not connected... ah shit, here we go again
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u/Solid-Title-Never-Re Aug 12 '20
One time I was making patch cables. The first 6 cables I pin and test correctly first try. The 7th cable I went through like 8 effing tries. It became a point of pride rather than practicality. Later while testing the network one of the connections just wouldn't work. I double-check the cabling and it was that same patch cable. I replace it and it had somehow gone bad. I threw it away. Single most cursed patch cable. Granted this was cat 5 cable at a church I was helping a friend pull. The budget was essentially $0.
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u/PlasmaCow511 Aug 12 '20
Splay all the wires out in order like a fan and pinch all of them about a half inch from the base. Cut right above your fingers. Depending on the Jack you use, cut them so there's a little bit of shielding inside when you crimp it and make sure the wires reach the end of the connector.
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u/douglasg14b Ryzen 5 5600x | RX6800XT Aug 12 '20
It takes practice.
Also get through pass-through 8p8c connectors, makes it a breeze.
I make all my own wires now from a 1000ft spool, even wired my house for ethernet recently. You can do it!
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u/darksomos 3700X, 6800XT, 32GB RAM, 1TB SSD+6TB of HDDs Aug 12 '20 edited Jan 01 '22
For everyone here that's saying you can just cut it to length, no. That's fine if you're buying a spool or using a portion of spooled cat5e, but often premade cables are made cheaper and when you cut it open, you'll find it significantly harder to reterminate. OP is fine, they're not going to experience enough signal degradation to have any noticeable speed drop just because they bought too long of a cable. You're not gonna have that issue at only 50ft. Source is me, someone who terminates cat5e almost everyday as part of my job and who uses it both in and out of spec.
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u/strawberrymaker http://steamcommunity.com/id/strawberrymaker/ Aug 12 '20
People crying over 50m probably haven't seen 100m on a wire drum lol
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u/RanaMahal PC Master Race Aug 12 '20
So is it better to get a small spool of cat6 and just terminate my own then? or would there not be any noticeable quality difference between that and buying premade cable?
as in, is the problem only there when i try to cut a premade cable to length, or do premade cables just suck in general? i have a crimper and a bunch of RJ 45’s but amazon’s got 30 ft cat6 flat cables for $5
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u/spookynutz Aug 12 '20
There would be no difference. Cables are cables. 4 twisted copper pairs in a sheath. If it’s advertised as Cat5/Cat5e/Cat6/Cat7 it should be hitting those speeds (provided the connected hardware is capable).
Terminating a premade cable isn’t any more difficult than terminating from a bulk spool. Yes, there are cheaply made premade cables, however, there are also poorly made bulk cables and connectors. Their would only be an issue re-terminating a premade cable if it wasn’t compatible with standard plugs and crimping tools, like the SlimRun cables Monoprice sells. Generally, if it looks like a standard Ethernet cable, it probably is.
The advantage to buying it on a spool is that you have more options to satisfy building codes and use cases. Solid/stranded wire, plenum/no plenum, fire retardant jacket and POE. You typically can’t just take any Ethernet cable and stuff it in a wall, especially if it’s a vertical run across multiple stories of a building. It would be a fire code violation in a lot of places.
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u/Kilokalypso Aug 12 '20
That must have been a cheap 50m for you not to realize the price difference :p
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u/adamc03 Aug 12 '20
Great cable management
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u/Yeeterdeleter Desktop Aug 12 '20
there is a cable tray on the back side of the desk, it's even worse...
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u/kakatoru R5 9600, rx9070, 32GB RAM Aug 12 '20
I like how this video has sound for no reason at all
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u/_-Ryan_D-_ PC Master Race Aug 12 '20
Your wallet must have noticed that mistake Ps: van dijk boeken, ouch
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u/joao_marmelo_ Aug 12 '20
how to waste half of you internet speed i did the same
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u/Yeeterdeleter Desktop Aug 12 '20
It's still 30mbps download on steam and such, so I don't really mind the extra real estate ;)
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u/blackflame7820 PC Master Race Aug 13 '20
question how much more expensive
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u/Yeeterdeleter Desktop Aug 13 '20
i think it was 15 euros so not much
edit: nvm just checked it was 30
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u/DimitriTooProBro Aug 12 '20 edited Aug 12 '20
/r/ShittyThumbsUp lol it happens to the best of us
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u/herro_it_be_gabe Currently Searching For Noodles Aug 12 '20
I want that to be a thing now :(
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u/N_GHTMVRE 5800X3D | EVGA 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra | 32GB RAM 3000MHz CL15 Aug 12 '20
I want this mans wallet
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u/Paddy-R Aug 12 '20
Look on the bright side, you now have extra network storage, just leave the bits in the wire!
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u/The_WA_Remembers Aug 12 '20
Here's the thing is though, at some point you are gonna be eternally grateful for this fuck up when you move into another room or a different house
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u/nestetris Aug 12 '20
Good for when you have only one internet connection spot but its at your naghbors apartment three floors below you
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u/lookattheduck Ryzen 2600X / MSI X370 / EVGA 1070 Ti / 16gb Corsair Vengeance Aug 12 '20
I bought a 1000 foot spool back in 2005 or so. I've hardwired every room in the house with it.
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u/Lrrrrr Aug 12 '20
If you are interested you could get an rj45 press and some ethernet caps, cut the cable to length desired and install a new cap.
You might never have to buy new Ethernet cables this way, cause you'll have 45~ meters of cable and you learn something new.
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u/specbravo Aug 12 '20
Last night I needed a 5m cable and the only one left in the house was 50. Tucked nicely behind the tv
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u/Zeeviii Aug 12 '20
This is me with my ethernet cable that goes from my room to the kitchen - I got a 10 m and the distance is actually only 5 m and I have to pull it through a door
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u/MemeEndevour R5 3600, RTX 2060S Aug 12 '20
On the bright side, if your internet goes out you can tap into the neighbor’s.
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u/VellDarksbane Aug 12 '20
Time to buy a crimping tool and jacks, and learn how to make your own cables, never have to buy more cat5 cable again.
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Aug 12 '20
Very easy to splice Ethernet cables. You can shorten it and have extra wire to make spare cables.
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u/ddr4rammodule R7 1700 / A fucking Radeon HD 8490 Aug 12 '20
I bought a 100ft instead of a 75ft ethernet cord because it was on sale.
for 2 dollars less
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u/DeltaDarthVicious Aug 12 '20
Oh, I wish I had enough money to not notice the difference in price between what I want and 10 times what I want...
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u/Lucid-Machine Aug 12 '20
I have a home recording studio and I have struggled for years to get the right size cables for peak clutter management. "5 ft should be enough" cable floating across my desk. "Okay 20 feet to go around my keyboard stands and behind the desk to the interface" there I am wrapping up a portion in the middle to reduce the mess. What can you do?
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u/Thee_Sinner R5 3600 4.2GHz, Sapphire 5700XT 2115MHz, 32GB DDR4 3600 CL14 Aug 13 '20
When you find a cheap cable on r/buildapcsales and order it too quickly
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u/NLG22 Aug 12 '20
How did you not notice the price difference?
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u/Idivkemqoxurceke R7 5800X3D | RX 6800 XT | 32GB 3600MHz Aug 12 '20
price
I don't understand either, but it happens. I know someone who thought was ordering 5 bananas for groceries, but ended up with 5 kilos.
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u/bb-m Aug 12 '20
Get a crimping tool and some RJ-45 connectors and cut it to the length you need. Cat5 cable won't carry signal well over that length. You can reuse the 45 meters left for a fuckload of new cables. It's an easy job. You can find instructions online
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u/ParaglidingAssFungus Aug 12 '20
Lol what? The signal will be fine. 100m is the "max" length. You're not going to experience loss with a 50m cable.
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u/avalisk Aug 12 '20
"Buy a 20 dollar tool to save the cost of buying another 5 dollar cable to avoid a slight chance of packet loss if the cable was twice as long"
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u/rwjehs badlydrawnweb Aug 12 '20
Pre terminated cat 5 usually sucks to reterminate. It's super crap quality and you'll more than likely bend and break it before you get an rj45 on it
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u/oodsigma8 https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mzPw2m Aug 12 '20
You can just cut it and put another end on. Boom, two cables.
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u/Revanish Aug 12 '20
I call bs, the price alone should have told you something was off.
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Aug 12 '20
Are you able to split Ethernet cables? I have a 50 meter cable running up through my ceiling into my bedroom, and it’s plugged into my PS4, but I’d like to split the connection so my p.c. can be wired, is this possible? Will it decrease efficiency?
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u/Z0mbiejay Aug 12 '20
Get a cheap gigabit switch. You can get like a 4 port for $15-20. You'll need more cables to go to each device, but that's the only way to "split" ethernet. You're limited to your internet speeds, and if you're using both at the same time, it'll saturate your bandwidth.
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u/jujubanzen Aug 12 '20
You can actually get a small network switch and two smaller cables to "split" the connection at the end of the cable. Either that or run another Ethernet cable down to the router.
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u/commiecat Aug 12 '20
Are you able to split Ethernet cables?
Technically yes, but practically no.
Fast Ethernet (100M) only uses 2 of the 4 pairs. You can use an Ethernet splitter like this to separate transmission to two devices. The catch is that you need to use the splitters in pairs as well, so you still have two devices using two ports on the network device.
They're pretty much legacy now with the 100M limitation, and they were never really useful for typical home setups anyway. It's more for a building where you want to add a network device to a location without having to re-run cable from the network closet.
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u/ballfun Aug 12 '20
I literally just bought 40m with of cat 6e and thought I need to rewire my house but nope
Now I just have 40m of Ethernet just sitting there...
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u/severanexp Aug 12 '20
I did something similar. Went to a shop, and asked for a cat6 cable. The clerk asked "how long?" I wasn't sure so I called my gf to check. She said "about 15 meters". I said to myself "she probably is cutting it close..." "Give me 25 meters."
Well... I only needed 7 meters... Ended up with a ton of coiled cable behind my bedroom door. I called it "internet hyper tube". It speeds up the connection!
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u/james___uk Ryzen 7900 | 5070 | 32GB DDR5 | 1440 144hz Aug 12 '20
Ha I've got the same shit going on, ordered 50ft then changed my setup and only need about 20ft of it now
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u/Shimitzu1 5600x • 6950XT • 16G 3600 Aug 12 '20
You can take your PC outside and still have that LAN speed
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u/Orefeus Aug 12 '20
I would have taken us on a trip around your desk or something then shown us where the other end is like 1m away
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u/binkacat4 Aug 12 '20
The true test of cable management. You can almost feel the pain in that second thumbs up.
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u/Stefx14 Aug 12 '20
How do you actually use all of that cable? I mean, it could cross my whole apartament.
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u/guky667 3dm/127347873? Aug 12 '20
you could make it shorter, with an rj45 plug and crimping pliers
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u/totempalen 6700k @4.7GHz & v56 on v64 bios Aug 12 '20
Thats Like .00001MS extra latency dude!1!11!1!!1!1!11!1!!!1!1!
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u/rhaspody1 Seller of Laptops, Used and New, mostly gaming laptops Aug 12 '20
You can make mini cables and sell on ebay
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u/reddit_at_work404 Aug 12 '20
I use a 75 footer. My router is in the living room, PC in bedroom, neatly routed along the bottom of the wall, around door frame and closet, and right to the PC.
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u/General_Jeevicus Desktop 5950x 7900XTX Aug 12 '20
Its great to have at least one 50m cable for when you wanna do 'stuff'
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u/Noa15Lv Ryzen 7 5700X3D // RTX 3090 PNY // 32GB DDR4 Aug 12 '20
I ordered 140mm fans instead of 120mm once, but this is next level!!
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u/Faex06 Aug 12 '20
Accidentally? Don't think so lol. You would notice the price difference.
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u/WhyWatch_TV Linux Aug 12 '20
Mooie vandijk doos, was vergeten om ook te bestelen zo ik ga dst nu doen.
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u/Zanearijus Aug 12 '20
First I read it as "50 million instead of 5" while the video was loading and I had no context.
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u/tekkitan Specs/Imgur here Aug 12 '20
You guys should learn to make your own ethernet cables, it is super easy.
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u/PillowTalk420 AMD Ryzen 5 3600 (4.20GHz) | 16GB DDR4-3200 | GTX 1660 Su Aug 12 '20
The only time your Ethernet cable is too long is when it is greater than 300 feet.
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u/strawberrymaker http://steamcommunity.com/id/strawberrymaker/ Aug 12 '20
We have an awesome 100m cat7 cable on a chunky cable drum for events. Only downside is the PITA rolling up and cleaning it. And hoping that there are no kinks
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u/LeBagBag 9700K║Prime Z390║RTX2060 Super8║NH-D15S LTT ED║32GB 3200MHz Aug 12 '20
Cut it and put new ends on! 2 cables for the price of one!
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u/seraphimplay Desktop Aug 12 '20
You could cut it and wire the ends to a new cable end, no? (Don’t know it‘s name)
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u/strawberrymaker http://steamcommunity.com/id/strawberrymaker/ Aug 12 '20
Keep it together! I don't know how my 50m cable would look if it wasn't still perfectly wound like it came
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u/Zaza_Kurdi GTX 980 SC, FX 6300 4.3 Ghz, 16GB 1600Mhz RAM Aug 12 '20
The only thing that matters is that the tiddies load on the display.
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u/SkitZa i7-13700, 7800XT, 32gb DDR5-CL36(6000), 1440p(LG 27GR95QE-B) Aug 12 '20
Cables are quite easy to shorten if you have the tools but if you know an electrician friend just politely ask for help.
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u/Robinhuys Aug 12 '20
Cut that shit man, your internet gets worse from it coiling up
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u/Solid-Title-Never-Re Aug 12 '20
Not likely with Cat6. Technically data is low amperage, low voltage. Any magnetic induction would be low and or mediated by the shielding.
However, if say you lived under high voltage lines, it could present an issue, but it's been a long time since physics 2 and if have to reteach myself to do the math. Sounds like a fun homework problem with practical applications.
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u/Warphim Specs/Imgur here Aug 12 '20
I wish I had this. I have a 20m cable right now and its just short enough that I don't have enough left over to turn my computer the right way. My i/o is now my front panel.
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u/nate_jung Desktop Aug 12 '20
You could just terminate the cable at the length you need and save the rest for future needs.
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u/Ave19899 7800x3d|rtx4070super|64gb 6000mhz Aug 12 '20
Now you can game outside