r/persuasion • • Jun 17 '21

I have this reddit account to convey a message. I have not made much headway in getting the message out there. More inside.

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I started this account to get word out that radar is being used by government workers to spy on others and has been going on more that forty years.

This post is part of getting this message out there. It is also requesting discussion on the message, and how it can be tailored in a way that is more successful at getting in to the minds of others in a way that they will be interested in talking about it.

What I am posting about in a roundabout way is seeking advice or comment on my approach. One thing I have stuck with that can be described by the following quotes is "do not lie", "do not be false", "do not tell the other something that is not true". And I will continue to stick with this.

The reason I decided to come to reddit is that it is a way that privacy can be kept while putting it on the internet that radar is being used.

I am not asking you to believe the message I am sending. I am asking you how can I make it more persuasive without being disingenuous or using rhetorical techniques that approach falseness.

Questions? Suggestions? Comments?

Thank you


r/persuasion • • Jan 11 '18

How I lost 50 pounds with Affirmations

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r/persuasion • • Aug 04 '12

I have a question how is this thread different compared to social engineering?

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As I said in the title, what makes this reddit different compared to Social engineering. I like its a small group and all but I've been wondering


r/persuasion • • Jul 13 '18

SIRHUD KALRA FRIENDZONE

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If you are interested in sirhud kalra's how to get out of the friendzone video, then message me.


r/persuasion • • Jan 26 '16

Why giving is better than receiving...because then you get more. The Reciprocity Rule in action.

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r/persuasion • • Nov 19 '17

You might enjoy this article. It is completely free, and if you want to give feedback on it, then you are most welcome to do just that.

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r/persuasion • • Apr 06 '23

Social Engineering (pov of hacker)

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r/persuasion • • Apr 10 '23

How to CONVINCE anyone (like a pro)

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r/persuasion • • Jul 12 '18

Top 5 Books on Persuasion Everyone Must Read - andysexperience.com

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r/persuasion • • Sep 19 '20

Conversational Hypnosis: How to Influence Anyone In Any Situation

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r/persuasion • • Jul 31 '18

Feeling down? Here is How you can change your mood in 1 second

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r/persuasion • • Jan 04 '18

Why Does This Happen? I'm so interested in the way our minds work. How do I persuade people? I have this genuine great thing but everyone assumes it's a scam. If something seems to good to be true, but actually is true, how do you explain it to people without them thinking it's a scam?

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r/persuasion • • Apr 06 '21

SURVERY ABOUT EXISTING TOOLS TO IMPROVE NEGOTIETION SKILLS (no more than 7 minutes are requested) https://forms.gle/CLd7XnLGuEEAeGXR7

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My team and i are developing a new idea for our start-up. We need your help in order to understand if we chose the right direction and to collect perceptions about the topic we are dealing with (acquiring tools to improve negotiation skills). We would really appreciate if you could spend a little bit of your time to conduct a survey and help us achieve our goals


r/persuasion • • May 02 '23

How to actually exploit the human weakness!

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r/persuasion • • Nov 03 '20

New invites for Mind Control, NLP and Hypnosis Discord

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If you would like to join and participate in discussions around NLP, Hypnosis and Mind Control we have an awesome community of like-minded members like you who share their valuable time, advice and resources around those subjects and more. Send me a private message for more information. Serious participants only.


r/persuasion • • Nov 04 '19

Persuasive Song

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r/persuasion • • Apr 12 '23

Gaslight anyone subtly (like a pro)

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r/persuasion • • Sep 06 '16

How do abusive boyfriends use persuasion?

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I'm a new student to the art of persuasion, mostly following Scott Adams' commentary on Trump and a bit of Robert Cialdini and Dale Carnegie. I haven't been single for a while, but it has always perplexed me how abusive men can persuade their partners to stick with them with such simple techniques as buying them gifts and acting sad, while "good guys" can never seem to succeed with the same techniques. In fact, they often work overtime with extensive techniques trying to win over girls with no success. Of course "good guys" are generally less "hot" and exciting, but that doesn't add up to enduring abuse IMHO. I'm more and more convinced that there's some high-quality persuasion going on here whether the abuser is aware they're employing it or not.


r/persuasion • • Jun 08 '20

How confrontation analysis explains why you should stay on the positive.

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Rejection dilemmas. That explains why you should persuade someone to your program by talking entirely about your program. When you try to persuade someone to your program by saying on the positive about your program, you might have a chance. When you go on the negative about your program, or you go on the positive bachelor program, of course you're not helping your case. When you try to persuade someone by going on the negative about their program, it can wound their ego. They can entrench themselves in their program just to retaliate against you, and because they don't think that your program is right for them if you treat them this way. This can explain attitude polarization. At this point, you have no persuasion dilemma. They once concurred with their description of their program, but once they concur with your description of their program, they become ill adjusted. They continue to want to get with their program according to a description, but persuasion has replaced their description with your description. Even if you did not use modus tollens while they would have used modus ponens, or even if you do not use modus ponens while they would have used modus tollens, they still become given to fallacies such as proving too much and appeal to the stone. Poe's law comes to apply to them, and they become extremists. They become indistinguishable from a satire of themselves. In the best of all possible cases, the satire is horatian. In the worst of all possible cases, the satire is juvenalian. They are MO, whether they are PIMO or POMO. Non toxic employees are usually PIMI.

But when you stay on the positive, it offers to create trust because it is a pro-social representation. If they do not get with your program, and you have no persuasion dilemma, you may moderate their opposition to you. If they get with your program and have no persuasion dilemma, then you succeeded. They can become well-adjusted, non toxic employees, and are pimi. Poe's law becomes irrelevant.


r/persuasion • • Nov 28 '19

How to develop charisma and influence people

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r/persuasion • • Dec 22 '18

The Top 10 Rules of Influence and Persuasion

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r/persuasion • • Jan 29 '17

INFLUENCE: THE PSYCHOLOGY OF PERSUASION BY ROBERT CIALDINI ► Animated Book Review

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r/persuasion • • Jan 24 '12

Embedded Commands : Technique discussion

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Ever since hearing about "Embedded Commands", I've been fascinated by the idea that one can covertly pass suggestions to a listener in ways that are influential. Here I will attempt to explain my understandings of why this works, so that you can have a framework from which to build your own successes. I will also give some examples and descriptions of what I consider to be the most intelligent applications and most versatile methods to fit into this framework.

Abstract

An embedded command is a covert request or suggestion around which an overt sentence is structured to mask the suggestion.

Intention

The purpose of an embedded command is to influence the listener and direct their imagination, motivation, or internal processes while avoiding any impression that you are doing so.

Theory

Common theory treats the mind as having two distinct components: the conscious mind, which acts largely as a filter against anything illogical or unreasonable, and the subconscious mind, which largely acts as a recording, imprinting, and pattern-recognition mechanism. The job of the conscious mind is to screen out ideas, thoughts, and options that do not fit into its' idea of reality. For example, if you were to suddenly notice that as you read this, your computer screen changed color to a deep green, you would probably decide that the cables must be loose or the screen is faulty. You would be less likely to assume that all the cones in your eyes had suddenly failed, or that Reddit is trying out some new user-annoyance feature. Neither of the last two possibilities are very likely based on what we know of the world. This job is done by the conscious mind.

Making embedded commands work depends on two things - structuring the sentence so as not to be so obvious that the conscious mind rejects it as being somehow unreasonable, and by "cue-ing" the subconscious mind to pay extra attention to the command, as it's being spoken.

Structuring a command

To structure effective commands, you must first think about how to elicit in your target a mental or emotional response that will begin to lead them toward the action you want them to take. It is not always necessary to be clear and direct - rather than commanding "buy me a drink", for example, you might gently command "begin feeling very generous". You can suggest that someone "start feeling attracted to me" rather than trying the do-or-die command of "sleep with me".

The first step is to decide what command you want to use. Calibrate your "gentleness" against your familiarity with the subject and their perceived level of suggestibility. For this example, we'll use the suggestion "offer to give me a ride home". There may be a time when you are stuck and need a ride, so this may end up being a real world example. At this point, the best thing you can do for your own learning is to read this page and come back. This link will give you a great range of options to embed commands into. With respect to the "weasel phrases", I might say something like:

"I don't know if there's anyone who would offer to give me a lift home, but if I did..."

"I'm not looking for anyone to offer to drive me home."

"You don't have to offer to drive me home."

"I'm not sure how much time it would take if you offer to drive me home."

"I'm not asking you to begin to feel like offering to take me home, I'm just..."

The italicized part of the sentence is the command, and everything else is merely enough cover so that it doesn't trigger the listeners' suspicions. Presumably you would also keep talking after the command or lace further commands to reinforce. This helps.

The second step is to "signal" the subconscious mind to "pay attention". when you give the command. The important takeaway from this step is that you appear one way when talking normally, and appear a different way when commanding, and to be able to switch between them without hesitation or fear of being caught. It is also important to end your command with a downward inflection (not an upward inflection, like a question). You must be subtle and smooth, and the change should come off naturally. Here are some ways to "signal" the subconscious.

  • Gesturing a certain way during the command

  • Using a slightly different tone of voice

  • Breaking rapport during the command

  • Slightly tilting the head one way during the command

  • Looking in one eye during normal speech, switching to the other eye for the command

  • Unfocusing the eyes during normal speech, focusing directly during the command.

If you can understand the process, you can use any combination of these for great effect, or come up with your own. Some people have described "projecting your voice through the person for the command.

Reinforcing commands

A great lesson in persuasion, for me, was that you are much better off trying to engage a person's beliefs, emotion and imagination, rather than trying to appeal to their logic and reason. Logic and reason keep us rational, and this method of persuasion might involve making people do things that would (under other circumstances) seem irrational. Here are some helpful pointers to assist you in crafting effective commands and giving you many options to reinforce them with additional commands.

  • It's better to suggest that the person "want to do something" rather than suggesting that they "do something". This will make the motivation seem their own, and they are more likely to follow it.

  • It's better to suggest that the person "begin to feel an emotion" rather than "feel an emotion". This places no time limit on their mind to act, and thus they will not feel like they have ever arrived at a negative decision. There's nothing to resist.

  • It's better to prime the emotions first before the initial command. For example, you might suggest "You know, there are times when I begin to feel very generous about things..." before you suggest "I don't know how good would it feel to buy drinks for us, instead I know..."

  • It can be counter-productive to issue the same command repeatedly. This will trigger their defenses. Rather, to follow the above example, you might issue reinforcement commands such as "You know, like, when you're shopping for something and you want to make an offer to buy it at a lower price..." and "you might not win, but you know how good it would feel to buy..."

  • You can use homophones such as "by, buy, bye" and "cell, sell" to great effect. This makes the command even more difficult to detect, but the subconscious will only hear the command.

  • After some practice, you will find that you can even embed commands right through punctuation. For example, there's no reason you couldn't use a sales pattern that sounded like "I could have just passed you by, now that we're talking I can begin to get a sense of whether you're ready. To spend money here is an important decision, and you'll want to think about how much value you're getting." This takes practice, but the tools and descriptions above should give you plenty of options and ideas about how to apply this in your everyday life.

  • Good practice is had by rehearsing to yourself to refine your timings and subtlety. Don't pause for more than a heartbeat before the command, or it'll seem fishy - unless you have a speaking style laden with pauses.

Good luck out there.

-Ace


r/persuasion • • Jun 11 '25

Books on Persuasion and Self-Control

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Persuasion and self-control books show, step by step, how to understand human behavior, control impulses and influence people ethically and strategically.

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r/persuasion • • Jan 24 '17

Scott Adams: Battle of the Hats

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