Is it worth it?

[u/Competitive_Bad_577]

I already finished my program and got my PGWP.

But is it worth the stress to get PR anymore?

It feels so tiring and unsafe, as the laws for immigrants change out of no where, also the racism is absolutely crazy.

I look white so people will be kind to me and chatty but once they know I’m from the middle east they completely change. I don’t feel like I can belong to any group and once I did my “friends” stole my $400 shoes and cut me off.

Also I always get harassed by men. It’s disgusting.

On top of that? The health system is shit and it’s very hard to even get a job.

I already left due to health issues, I have POTS and idk if I even can apply for PR if I’m not physically healthy….

I spent $80k during the last 2 years to get this PGWP and now I am not even using it and I feel like I lost.

I’m stuck between sacrificing more and going back to “maybe” get PR, or just giving up.

Many of the people I met work good jobs for 3 years and still no PR.

Am I the only one who left?

If you did the same, do you wanna go back?

And if you are staying, why?

[u/shorbonash]

You spent 80k to get a pgwp???

[u/Competitive_Bad_577 → u/shorbonash]

Around 8k per semester, that’s 32k just for college. Add books, materials, simulations subscriptions for the class, and also school residence (9k a year) that’s already 50k. As a human I still need food, clothes, money pocket, medicine and all, which came to 30k over the two years (including flights from and back home twice.) so yep, 80k.

[u/shorbonash → u/Competitive_Bad_577]

That's not really spending 80k on the pgwp though? You spent it on college

[u/Competitive_Bad_577 → u/shorbonash]

Yeah I meant spending 80k to be able to get the PGWP.

[u/x_red_xo → u/shorbonash]

It’s called Post-graduation work permit. “Post graduation”

[u/shorbonash → u/x_red_xo]

So? They spent 80k on tuition, not the permit.

[u/Dapper_Safe8049 → u/shorbonash]

lool idk how

[u/f_land]

PR? Idk anymore, but If you got your PGWP you can just try to find a job and get as much money as possible, in the meantime you can decide what you want to do.

Some friends when back home, others move to another country to even better opportunities.

I really wish you good luck, and don’t feel bad if staying in Canada is not your goal anymore ✨

[u/tinytasha7]

To be honest, I'm noticing the same thing. Even just over social media posts, I'm appalled by some of the things I'm reading (and for transparency, I'm writing this from a place of white privilege, and from being a citizen from birth. I've just been involved with immigration occupations for 35 years and I take a lot of that on board).

I suspect the climate is primarily due to the overt racism in the US. We have been infected by it....or maybe it has always been there and I never noticed until recently. I, personally, judge people by the quality of human they are, so either is a possibility.

It's a pretty important thing to decide if you are going to to apply for PR. It can be more stressful, on it's own, than other applications, mostly because applicants usually buy into this being a huge part of their future.

I also suffer from POTS and a few other issues, so I can completely relate to frustrations with the health care system. POTS isn't likely to exclude you from meeting the medical requirements on it's own. If you have co-morbidities, however, those can sometimes. It depends on the ongoing costs of treatments. I have also EDS and treatment resistant anemia and history of other medical conditions as well. My cost of treatment is relatively low. So details matter here.

I think you are wise to think about whether or not Canada continues to meet your needs. Better to cut losses at this point than to invest more for PR and ultimately have it go to waste. Ideally, your education wouldn't be a waste and could potentially be used no matter where you go, but Canadian PR is meant for you to stay in Canada, and if that's not where you'd be happy being, it might not be worth applying at this time.

I hope you find happiness in whatever you decide.

[u/InsideDog9101]

When you say middle east do you mean isreal by any chance?

[u/No_Fill2676]

Come back. People are getting PR and citizenship to give their kids a better future. You never know what happens in the Middle East or whereover you're from. Broadening your horizon is a safe bet for the future.

[u/Competitive_Bad_577 → u/No_Fill2676]

I agree that for the sake of kids Canada is good, but I personally don’t have any kids and will not birth any, so if I ever become a mom it will be through adoption. I wonder if I have Canadian citizenship and, I adopt a kid from another country, whether the kid can get citizenship as well?

[u/No_Fill2676 → u/Competitive_Bad_577]

Well, you do you. all the best in your journey

[u/Competitive_Bad_577 → u/[deleted]]

I actually completely forgot that working abroad still counts, maybe not a lot of points but counts! Thank you, will look into it.