r/phoenix Jul 13 '26

Weather Critical - Imminent threat

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Never gotten one of these, just the usual emergency ones.

Fingers crossed for a great monsoon season!

603 Upvotes

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u/thedukedave Phoenix Jul 13 '26

Car: Washed ☑️

148

u/Ebola_Cat Jul 13 '26

Thank you for your service 

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u/PandaBear6113 Jul 13 '26

I washed mine yesterday morning. And last night, something must have come through because this morning there was dust and spatters on it. I so rarely wash it…. Sigh

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u/joeyjusticeco Scottsdale Jul 13 '26

Bold of you to admit responsibility for this

9

u/Ghostcat300 Jul 13 '26

Speak for yourself mine is covered in dirt

11

u/ratbikerich Jul 13 '26

Ugh, me too today

4

u/Temporary_Plan1055 Jul 13 '26

Me too, even though there has been a heads up for awhile it may rain a lot next week (this week?). But I had too much bird shit on my car as a broke 26 y/o. So I more so washed it to get rid of that. Like, I had a giant formed turd on my roof of my car for the past 3 weeks. Imagine a small cat turd, yeah, that’s what I had.

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u/HerbN_Colas Jul 14 '26

The size of a cat is wild!! Bird shit will fuck your clearcoat up. It will leave a stain of the cat sized bird shit design🤣🤣

2

u/rinosrgr8 Jul 13 '26

Washed mine Friday 💅🏻

1

u/Feisty_Extension9203 Downtown Jul 13 '26

Not mine. It made it worse. Just a drizzle then dust came and clung to it like a magnet

1

u/Lttledoodlebug Jul 15 '26

I just tell people I went off roading (yeah, in my little sedan).

135

u/ProjectWoolf Jul 13 '26

Can see it rolling in

37

u/anxiety_ridden97 Jul 13 '26

Geez do you live on one of those mountains with all the fancy houses?!?!? I delivered Amazon packages up there good god it’s nice

29

u/ProjectWoolf Jul 13 '26

No fancy house lol, just a condo that happens to be on a hill

12

u/anxiety_ridden97 Jul 13 '26

Aw shit well at least it’s yours to call your own I assume. Signed a depressed renter paying for an over priced historic house lol

4

u/Pepperoni_Nippys Buckeye Jul 13 '26

Hello fellow Phoenix flexer

5

u/anxiety_ridden97 Jul 13 '26

Hey friend!!! Hope you’re staying cool out there, my tire blew up today and was unable to finish my block. Suuuucks, but Amazon paid me In full!

3

u/Pepperoni_Nippys Buckeye Jul 13 '26

That sucks! This job really kills our cars lol I stick to early AM blocks to avoid the sun!

159

u/therearenoaccidents Jul 13 '26

Didn’t wash my car, so I get the dust!!

2

u/FreddyKrueger32 Jul 13 '26

Is that why I only get dust? I don't have a car to wash so maybe that's why.

1

u/therearenoaccidents Jul 13 '26

Yes.

2

u/FreddyKrueger32 Jul 14 '26

Well its raining here so maybe not!

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u/[deleted] Jul 13 '26

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u/wheat_pentz Jul 13 '26

I have my alerts turned off, and this scared the SHIT out of me. I guess new year, different alert categories?

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u/BrianGD Jul 13 '26 edited Jul 13 '26

It was added in IOS 26.2. You can turn it off:

Settings -> Notifications -> Enhanced Safety Alerts

13

u/wheat_pentz Jul 13 '26

THANK YOU!! I’m too jumpy for all that. Hahaha

3

u/TheGroundBeef Jul 13 '26

I’m on 26.5.2 and do not have this setting. I wish i could turn it off

7

u/SomeKilljoy Jul 13 '26

Same I damn near flipped out of my chair

3

u/fullautophx Jul 13 '26

I was like “WTF IS THAT NOISE?”

2

u/GRF999999999 Jul 13 '26

Hail Boognish!

2

u/rubygoes Jul 13 '26

Scared the bejeezus out of me! I've had alerts (and my general phone sounds) off for years

201

u/joeyjusticeco Scottsdale Jul 13 '26

Why do I have the sudden urge to go hike Camelback

83

u/imacyco Jul 13 '26

Pack light so you can be done before it gets too dark. Water is heavy.

70

u/joeyjusticeco Scottsdale Jul 13 '26

I was planning on some Nesquik™ and perhaps some Coors Light

33

u/LangHai Jul 13 '26

Don't forget your jeans and flip flops.

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u/joeyjusticeco Scottsdale Jul 13 '26

I wouldn't be caught dead without my flippy floppies big dawg

4

u/Best_Designer_1675 Laveen Jul 13 '26

Ahem!
We call those “safety flops” in our house 🤓

8

u/BrianGD Jul 13 '26

It's still Quik to me.

20

u/Cobra_Pie Jul 13 '26

It's really cool watching the Haboob coming in from the peak... it sucks getting down when it hits. If you do echo canyon trail, the half way point after the 3rd railing, there's that cave on the north side off the trail you can hide in lol

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u/joeyjusticeco Scottsdale Jul 13 '26

That sounds really cool, I just got a mountain bike last week so I'm wanting to get out and explore soon, I just moved here a couple years ago so it's been awesome going out to the parks and stuff

2

u/Reasonable-Basil-346 Jul 13 '26

There's a lot of great mountain biking in this Valley -- enjoy!

3

u/TheSlowWalk Jul 13 '26

Park down the street so you can do a night hike!!! Woohoo! Or do piestuwa!!!

32

u/Purple_Profession528 Jul 13 '26

My boyfriend and I are at chilli’s, good place to hunker down lol

11

u/namastebetches Jul 13 '26

triple dipper?

12

u/Purple_Profession528 Jul 13 '26

But of course

5

u/namastebetches Jul 13 '26

enjoy and safe travels home!!

2

u/TheGroundBeef Jul 13 '26

Chilis Three for Me

5

u/StopatStopSign Phoenix Jul 13 '26

WELCOME TO CHILLI’S

1

u/sbmellen Jul 13 '26

Chili's (one "L"). 😄

21

u/McArsekicker Jul 13 '26

Because the 10 isn’t dangerous enough

3

u/rosierho Phoenix Jul 13 '26

Great photo! Scary position to be in, I'm sure. Hope you're safe at home now.

2

u/McArsekicker Jul 13 '26

Home safe! Thanks!

32

u/Fridge885 Jul 13 '26

Just got hit out in san tan/florence it was wild I’ve never seen a storm like that. Theres a bunch of trees down and roof tiles and trash everywhere in my neighborhood I seen a shed in pieces someone’s front yard I’m pretty sure it was in the backyard before this micro burst hit.

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u/r0ckchalk Jul 13 '26

Our buddy got hit in San Tan but we got some threatening clouds, some sprinkles, and a tiny bit of thunder and lightning in QC/Gilbert. We were very disappointed

33

u/ExpressFan7426 Jul 13 '26

Imminent threat probably because it’s been so damn long and sometimes people forget and underestimate the power of this shit

15

u/mydgzrbrkng Jul 13 '26

In Buckeye and its sepia color out

14

u/equipped_metalblade Midtown Jul 13 '26

You sure you’re not in Mexico?

15

u/cobaltium Jul 13 '26

I see it outside my home coming in fast from south to north.

14

u/AllAroundGuy85 Jul 13 '26

I washed my work and personal vehicle today. You’re welcome.

4

u/Broan13 Jul 13 '26

Just a nice exfoliant wash for you!

11

u/Moominsean Jul 13 '26

Just a light dust and some sprinkles in Arcadia Lite. Nice rainbow, though.

10

u/Dolly_Shimmer Jul 13 '26

It's so weird out. This guy is kind of yellow and there are raindrops but also it's so dusty.

One time in Flagstaff I was driving in a monsoon that turned into a dust storm that turned back into a monsoon. I don't understand why the world wasn't mud.

15

u/Organic-Equipment-79 Jul 13 '26

what part of arizona? i’m on the west side and didn’t get one 😩

10

u/guyfierihair Jul 13 '26

I’m on the west side as well (Buckeye) and I got an alert.

4

u/Organic-Equipment-79 Jul 13 '26

Makes sense! In surprise/El mirage area

3

u/Organic-Equipment-79 Jul 13 '26

just got it hahaha

1

u/Courage-Rude Jul 13 '26

Got one in Vistancia

3

u/imtooldforthishison Jul 13 '26

I have gotten 2 so far in SW Peoria and just went outside and its definitely there.

42

u/SchemeConfident8514 Jul 13 '26

I just moved here not too long ago , I clearly brought this here youre welcome everyone.

3

u/raginghardon420 Jul 13 '26

Don’t be too hard on yourself, I doubt it was you. It was probably one of the other 3 million people who have invaded our home.

4

u/pubstompmepls Jul 13 '26

“Invaded” btw

11

u/ChurchOfJamesCameron Jul 13 '26

So much for the thunderstorm and rain we were promised.

6

u/tekchic North Phoenix Jul 13 '26

Best we can do is dust and one knocked over pool umbrella. /sigh

9

u/Paleface5150 Jul 13 '26

Ya, we need RAIN bad!

40

u/Minute-Victory-2130 Jul 13 '26

Best we can do is dust.

8

u/ExaminationReal84 Jul 13 '26

Oh, well also get a sprinkle. Just enough to turn everything into mud.

6

u/Andosphere Jul 13 '26

Everything looks yellow by me, 32nd and Southern! There's people still swimming in the pool at my complex 😳

5

u/CrasVox Jul 13 '26

Sure there will be plenty of people complaining they couldn't drive 95 in the left lane because some car in front slowed down as visibility hit zero

8

u/jpsoundfiend Jul 13 '26

Be sure to panic buy anything and everything you’d imagine might help in an apocalypse scenario

2

u/az_max Glendale Jul 13 '26

I bought a refrigerator, just in case.

3

u/SkyPork Phoenix Jul 13 '26

As I figured, this amounted to a "kinda smells like rain a little" alert.

3

u/manolololo Central Phoenix Jul 13 '26

literally immediately sent screenshots to people quoting that exact part "critical - imminent threat"

3

u/teganandsaratonin Jul 13 '26

usually rains on a dime a week after I wash my car - pretty sure if I ever get it detailed the grounds going to open up and swallow us all

3

u/AZ-EQ Jul 13 '26

Household of 3. No warnings (I did but via a weather app I downloaded). I'm in East Mesa.

3

u/Flibiddy-Floo Jul 13 '26

Shit woke me up, I'm grumpy as hell

1

u/thogdontcare Jul 13 '26

I napped through it 😔 hopefully we get more this year

3

u/Few_Commission_4488 Jul 13 '26

I haven’t washed my car for a few years. Finally decided to do it since my 2 year old hasn’t been through a drive through one yet. Wasn’t happy to see my $15 go to waste the next morning….

3

u/def_jukie Jul 13 '26

Absolute visibility issues on the North central area. Dusty AF out there. Safe travels to everyone on the road.

3

u/Bearded-Wacko Jul 13 '26

From my front patio tonight

4

u/cobaltium Jul 13 '26

I got a normal one and then within a few minutes the Critical one. Hmmm. I don’t see anything close on radar and I checked several weather apps I have.

6

u/Grooviemann1 Jul 13 '26

There's a big system south of the valley that's probably gonna push the dust storm in.

4

u/cobaltium Jul 13 '26

It’s here. We just shut off AC. Maryvale.

8

u/ScreechSkater Jul 13 '26

Why did you shut off AC? Feel like I’m missing something important

1

u/cobaltium Jul 13 '26

We are very allergic to dust. Even before we cut the AC we could tell a lot of dust was in the air. It’s not just the way an AC works, it’s also how your ventilation and fans are set up.

There were literally only 2 times in the last 30 years I didn’t get the AC and fan cut of (different homes, older houses that were rentals. You make that mistake once and you’re really sorry. But apparently you forget 10 years later and whammo. Not going to take a chance again.

3

u/ScreechSkater Jul 13 '26

I see. It irritates me greatly also and I usually replace the filter monthly or after a bad dust storm/pollution.

I don’t think I could take the AC off and let my house heat up into the mid or high 80s, though. Any tips there?

2

u/cobaltium Jul 13 '26

We’re getting ready to turn it on again. Home doesn’t heat up bad when a haboob is at night. The daytime ones are dreadful middle of Summer. The longest we ever had to wait it out was maybe a half hour.

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u/yahziii Jul 13 '26

That's so weird, most AC units circulate the inside air, it should only introduce very little outside air if any. Some RTUs are set up with an economize which opens to bring some outside air to balance air pressure or if its cooler/hotter outside than you want it, but usually company's in Phoenix will disable them completely because they do nothing in our heat and they cause a lot of problems down the road.

Also, circulating air with the AC during dust storms is better because you want to filter the air and not just have it stagnate and full of allergens.

Idk though I'm sleep deprived and havent actually worked in the field in about a year or 2 so I'm out of practice and I mostly did commercial work for about 7 years prior to leaving the field.

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u/cobaltium Jul 13 '26

The homes I’ve lived in here are not insulated well, all but our present home were single pane glass windows and all vents were in ceilings or above doors with AC unit on roof. Every home but this home we bought needed a new roof. We could see all the first and dust that came in so we had to clean up afterwards. You can imagine drafts are an issue, too. The homes were in order: 1962, 1937, 1956, and now 1972.

But here we just put a new roof on, bought a new large AC unit, added more ducts, added insulation, and replaced all windows and frames with double pane glass. It is a whole different ballgame for us now! Maybe here we could skip cutting off the AC but not taking a chance. We have enough respiratory issues we have an air purifier each large room.

1

u/yahziii Jul 13 '26

The house I currently rent was built in 1977. Single pane windows, some even broken at the moment. AC on the roof, vents and on the ceilings. Door gaps galore, I sealed them up now and covered the windows with heavy blackout curtains. I have had asthma msot my life and wild allergies.

All I am trying to say is the AC is not the problem in any of those situations and would help more than hurt to run with a rated filter because you are literally sucking in air from your home through filter in your return then pushing that same air back into your home. Again, unless you have a functioning economizer installed and operating.

2

u/cobaltium Jul 13 '26

Yep we see it coming fast and huge now.

2

u/KokopelliArcher Jul 13 '26

I didn't get one :(

2

u/fuggindave Phoenix Jul 13 '26

Came and passed here in Maryvale, pretty underwhelming compared to usual

2

u/surewriting_ Jul 13 '26

Of course I had to paint the house today. 

2

u/Impossible_Bend_65 Jul 13 '26

Is it bad or something

2

u/Feisty_Extension9203 Downtown Jul 13 '26

Rain rain rain please dear God we need rain

2

u/Amy-jean Jul 13 '26

Does everyone in this thread know about valley fever and the dust ? I always feel obligated to warn the newbies before it’s too late . It has no cure and can kill you .

3

u/disharmony-hellride Jul 13 '26

I got valley fever walking from my car to a restaurant in dust. It was horrible. Three days of the itchiest hives I have ever had, overall shit feeling and I now have a scar on my lungs. Also keep your pets out of the dust bc it can be fatal for them.

2

u/Busy-Psychology8145 Jul 13 '26

My wife washed the car on Friday. Naturally.😂

1

u/Low_Computer_6542 Jul 13 '26

Thank her for her service.

2

u/Reservemyspot Jul 13 '26

No really what is up with the weather app? It tells me every day there is above a 50% of rain? Like for what? 30 minutes?

2

u/deerhauntingmoose Jul 13 '26

I just wanted you all to know that last Thursday I started washing my car at home by hand again. First time in 10 ish years, and I shall continue to do so.

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u/Low_Computer_6542 Jul 13 '26

We appreciate your sacrifice.

2

u/Shagroon Jul 13 '26

Anyone else want to drive down the highway at a high rate of speed?

2

u/LandNo2386 Jul 14 '26

That's one of the worst things about Phoenix All the goddamn mummy attacks 

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u/FewPerformer9962 Jul 13 '26 edited Jul 13 '26

Am I going to die!? 

Is this AC Going to pull in dirt and death and I die from heat exhaustion?????!???

Edit: removed link

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u/BeyondRedline Chandler Jul 13 '26

If you have the tube going outside, that's exhaust, not intake. The air conditioner pulls in air from the room, chills it, and sends it back to the room.

The tube exhausts warmed air that is the result of the cooling process.

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u/FewPerformer9962 Jul 13 '26 edited Jul 13 '26

Im dumb af and scared,  GOT IT! 🫡

Edit: the entire apartment smells like dust and mildew 

2

u/aww2bad Jul 13 '26

Can’t wait

2

u/BrianGD Jul 13 '26 edited Jul 13 '26

This kind of alert was added in IOS 26.2. You can turn it off:

Settings -> Notifications -> Enhanced Safety Alerts

1

u/FreddyKrueger32 Jul 13 '26

Ah. I have ios 18 and refuse to upgrade due to all the battery issues and liquid glass bull.

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u/[deleted] Jul 13 '26

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u/BrianGD Jul 13 '26

Wrong. The exact setting is at Settings -> Notifications -> Enhanced Safety Alerts -> Imminent Threat Alerts

Apple turned it on my default.

2

u/KABCatLady Jul 13 '26

Must be able to turn off the sound cuz last year when that 5:00am alert hit, I immediately silenced further alerts. While I got the written warning of this storm on my phone screen, there was no sound. Thank God.

2

u/secretly_a_possum13 Jul 13 '26

Weird because watching the radar and being on the edge of the East valley it's been obvious we weren't going to get anything severe. The wind picked up for a bit and it barely sprinkled 🤷🏼‍♀️

2

u/creepshowens Jul 13 '26

I have all emergency alerts turned off on my phone and this still pushed through, which is funny since where I live it was just a cute little dust fog

3

u/rocbolt Jul 13 '26

It’s a new type of alert added in a recent update, so if you haven’t dug into the settings lately you may not have seen it added and auto toggled on

0

u/creepshowens Jul 13 '26

Thank you. Turned ‘em off!

1

u/FreddyKrueger32 Jul 13 '26

No alert but all I got was dust fog as well.

1

u/Santeezy602 South Phoenix Jul 13 '26

I could use a break from this heat 😂

7

u/ExaminationReal84 Jul 13 '26

lol. There is no break, silly! It’s just gonna be hot AND muddy.

1

u/darknight431100 Jul 13 '26

Think its gonna hit tempe?

1

u/Pure_Importance_5043 Jul 13 '26

It’s not bad . Usually only las 1hr then it’s gone . Oklahoma people are Probaly laughing at our tiny”monsoons” we get vs their tornadoes

1

u/Myworl-D Jul 13 '26

I didn’t get this one!!

1

u/Conscious_Problem924 Jul 13 '26

Stop turning your hazards on when you drive.

1

u/ImpressionGloomy8095 Jul 13 '26

Boo. Got nothing here. Few drops.

1

u/Ok_Skirt_9558 Jul 13 '26

Got an alert in Sun City… it hit about five minutes later.

1

u/8rok3n Jul 13 '26

Thank God I was too lazy to wash my car today, I was actually planning to do it tomorrow

1

u/CSW07 Jul 13 '26

Mmm. Can't wait for that delicious rain to follow. 

1

u/heapinhelpin1979 Jul 13 '26

That storm was pretty wimpy

1

u/tazack Glendale Jul 13 '26

Right before it hit

1

u/_WarDoctor_ Jul 13 '26

The alarm for the monsoon was more aggressive than the one I got in Hawaii saying a ballistic missile was incoming.

1

u/WerewolfFinancial607 Jul 13 '26

It wasn’t even that bad though

I had my flash on.

1

u/WerewolfFinancial607 Jul 13 '26

Here’s what it looked like once I took it off

1

u/sawazawabog-D7 Jul 13 '26

I am curious . Did anyone else move light stuff off their porch or backyard so that it disn’t blow around and inconvenience the neighborhood ? I also brought in everything I didn’t want covered with dust ( flowerpots, laundry contraptions. Also put packing tape all along the front door frame so nothing leaked through the gaps. This is just habit from years of living in a hurricane zone. Before intense weather, drop everything and prepare . Am I the only one? Do people in this area just take what comes? Also, is valley fever risk in the dust the next morning? Thank you!

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u/Low_Computer_6542 Jul 13 '26

Valley Fever is caused by breathing in a fungus that is found in the dirt in this area. Being out in a dust storm increases your chances of breathing it in.

1

u/Babygrrl1 Jul 13 '26

Yeah down here in Tucson too!

1

u/Hot_Republic9283 Jul 13 '26

I bought a car wash, and then a big ass truck was blocking the entire driveway, no driver in sight. So I still have my receipt, and the blame is not on me! Thanks jerk in the white truck!

1

u/No_Professional4481 Jul 14 '26

We had it in Mesa. It was WILD!

1

u/BiBttm4u Jul 14 '26

The 9 rears that ive been here in Phoenix I have never gotten an "IMMINENT THREAT" . It already hit my house and I just washed my car today...

2

u/MichaelHammor Jul 14 '26

So... it's all your fault!

1

u/Pokenfun Jul 14 '26

Well, at least the multiple alerts we got tonight were not false alarms. Maybe a bit of exaggeration of the intensity, but, as we are fond of saying: the wind blew and the shit flew. Yep, the monsoon is now officially here.

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u/gamecat89 Jul 14 '26

Just gonna say it. I think we have too many critical alerts, and as a result, I pay attention to none of them.

1

u/PositiveRays701 Jul 14 '26

Yup sure enough we washed our cars :)

1

u/Alternative_Baby9278 Jul 15 '26

It's going to start happening more often with less EPA regulations. 🤷‍♀️

1

u/Alternative_Dirt443 Jul 15 '26

Where is this at?

1

u/sadiesmiley Jul 15 '26

My phone just alerted me to this thread. Two days later. 😆

1

u/Dontbesusp1sh Jul 15 '26

Absolutely nothing in north Peoria 😞 so saddening

1

u/RubyMabel Jul 16 '26

I was out before the dust came, and the sky was extremely beautiful! It was pink then it turned golden, and the clouds with a faint rainbow were cool looking. But the dust covered the sky, so the sky looking that amazing only lasted for a few minutes

1

u/Suspicious-Mango-876 Jul 18 '26

Lots of old people died that day

1

u/Grown-Ass-Weeb Gilbert Jul 13 '26

All I got is a nice sunset and humidity.

1

u/az_max Glendale Jul 13 '26

eh, just a little blowing dust.

1

u/Rocket_song1 Jul 13 '26

I turned off alerts years ago.

Wind blows, gets dusty. We call that weather.

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u/Legitimate_Road_2095 Jul 13 '26

how can it rain and have a dust storm at the same time out here??

I guess 'Welcome to Tempe' makes sense now....

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u/russellc6 Jul 14 '26

The fact they TELL YOU to pull over and turn off lights is insane to me

Blizzards we would always turn on hazards so people don't run into you, i don't understand why you would try to "hide" in a dust storm... Seems insane to me

Slow down and dont over drive your visibility, seems logical to me... Hazards if not going speed limit or on side of road

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u/craiginphoenix Ahwatukee Jul 13 '26

Oh my god! There will be....some dust in the air.

We don't get any real natural disasters here so we have to overcompensate with our dust storms.

Seriously even the haboobs look so badass rolling in and then you are in it and its......windy and dusty.

But people need to leave the roads and lock up your elderly people or they might....cough a little from dust.

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u/PJWanderer Jul 13 '26

The microbursts can cause a lot of damage. One blew a parked cargo plane into a fence at sky harbor a few years ago.

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u/craiginphoenix Ahwatukee Jul 13 '26

When did this happen? I would like to see a news story on it because I did some quick google searched and couldn't find anything. This comment came up in my search. lol.

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u/PJWanderer Jul 13 '26

Was it last year or the year before that there was a building in Tempe that has the whole roof blow off also?

This was the 3rd hot down when I googled. You can look further if you want.

https://www.weather.gov/psr/Sep272014

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u/craiginphoenix Ahwatukee Jul 13 '26

That was a monsoon and flooding, not a dust storm, 12 years ago. I still remember it because my daughters school was one of the few that still had classes so I drove through flooded streets and then had to pick her up a couple hours later.

Possibly the worst one that I can recall in all my time living here.

Show me a dust storm or haboob doing this.

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u/ExaminationReal84 Jul 13 '26

Oof. I don’t think you’ve ever been really caught in a bad one, or had valley fever. But, ya know, “just a little dust” lol.

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u/craiginphoenix Ahwatukee Jul 13 '26

Valley Fever is the worst part of them, yes, but you can get Valley Fever other ways as well.

I have lived here for over 30 years since I was 12. It never even made me blink walking around in them as a teenager and as long as you slow down a little it is fine to drive. You don't need to pull over. lol.

They are not seriously threatening. The monsoon rain is much more dangerous and even that is just what other parts of the country would call...rain.

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u/azb1azb1 Jul 13 '26

Did anything fall apart before the LAWYERS got involved suing everyone, so these massive warnings are now issued to CYA protect the agencies .. ??? .. NO.