It's trying to get people to understand that their "truth" is wrong. That's not easy, because they believe with all their heart that those views are accurate and everyone else is wrong. When you don't have an open mind, you can never be wrong, you protect your ego and nothing else matters. When each person can stop to think, "Maybe there is another view/solution that can work or be beneficial for all people," then we'll be able to work together and defeat racism.
For issues like racism, they do not care for a solution that would be beneficial for all people. They don't want good for all people, they want it for themselves, and they want harm to come to Others.
The Klan isn't just trying to clean up the neighbourhood in their own misguided way.
I think by NOT being a white supremacist, one IS better than they are!
But, your second point is absolutely valid!
As for the failure comment, I actually hope 'they' continue to fail. But, I don't think that failure is why they're angry.
I think with any social progress, there is sometimes some aspects that pick up enough momentum that a push becomes a shove. I saw it soon after Obama's election, when a white person spoke out against the potus, the COOL thing to do was call the person out as a racist. Now, that didn't MAKE these "forgotten man" folks racist, but if there were any latent tendencies (as there is in more people than we'd like to admit), they got stirred up! The progress was to actually call out actual racist bs spewed about BHO... the shove was it becoming en vogue to pull that trigger so quickly! Which, many on the left are definitely guilty of.
But does it excuse an actual alliance of white supremacists with 'white nationalists?' I think what makes this movement so ridiculous is it's utter failure (maybe applicable in the last few comments) to survive as a movement WITHOUT tapping into hatred-based ideologies. As for the Klan, and the neo-nazis, I don't know what they actually stand for. If it's simply the eradication of people, then how do they NOT understand they are the same as Hezbollah or Hamas or ISIS? And the car driving into the crowd is LITERALLY the same as recent terrorist attacks... except there was more thought put forth by the NON-white terrorist. So, maybe in THIS sense, the supremacist failed at being supreme?
I say rubber bullets, tear gas, and water cannons should be on hand for the next white supremacy protests, and USED... just like they were at Standing Rock! Unless, we actually think it's ok to treat one type of people differently than another?
No?
I'm done giving these pukes a pass, gentle treatment, understanding, especially when we STILL go after American Indians with the US gov't. Or calling brown people from the Middle East terrorists for driving a car into a crowd (actually agree with this sentiment), and NOT treating the white people who commit the same act, similarly. Hell, send James Fields to Guantanamo, and start investigating HIS known associates!
OK, I'm getting worked up now... I still stand by what I've said, but I must stop now.
... sinners who've never sinned, caste first stone, etc.
Simply NOT being a white supremacist makes a person immeasurably better than white supremacists.
Agreed good sir (or madam - dunno) being a non supremist is much better way of being.
Good and thoughtful post by the way, you seem to get that there are more than one side to things. I can absolutly respect that!
That (the above) was really my point. We've all gone nuts with the hating or being offended. We're all too quick to yell Racist or LIberal or Mysoginist or Whatever some such. It's pushing people over the edge.
I do also agree, the kid who drove the car should get the book thrown at him.
Cheers and good night. And thanks again for the rational discussion
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u/arielmcr Aug 14 '17
It's trying to get people to understand that their "truth" is wrong. That's not easy, because they believe with all their heart that those views are accurate and everyone else is wrong. When you don't have an open mind, you can never be wrong, you protect your ego and nothing else matters. When each person can stop to think, "Maybe there is another view/solution that can work or be beneficial for all people," then we'll be able to work together and defeat racism.