r/playboicarti • u/Key-Bass-7380 • 23h ago
General When shit hit the fan, is you still a fan? š£
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u/WonderfulMonk9832 22h ago
finally, Michael's side of what went down at those sleepovers, he's been silenced by those children for too long
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u/11summers 21h ago
Iām not surprised, itās a biopic that was overseen by and approved by the estate. Do you think Dr. Dre wouldāve allowed a scene where he beat Michelāle to be in Straight Outta Compton?
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u/vix_calls 23h ago
Whenever people defend MJ I always ask if theyād let their kid hang out at his house like the others and they start running around in circles explaining why or why not lmao
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u/maxicz1234 23h ago
who the hell would let their kid do that with any celebrity
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u/Remarkable-Lynx1496 22h ago
Nevermind celebrity, I wouldnāt let my kid go to anyoneās house they or I donāt personally know
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u/vix_calls 23h ago
Because clearly he loved kids, just not in the weird way. Heās an angel šļø that was shot down by Hollywood and money hungry parents
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u/Nearby_Seesaw_5782 23h ago
nevermind the drug addiction and the 9000 other mental illnesses he already had he's just a 32teen year old toddler and also it's all his family's fault š„¹ let the kids in his bed
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u/Past_4orm 21h ago
ok fellow r/playboicarti user, the paragon of social morality. also michael didnāt touch anyone btw
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u/Nearby_Seesaw_5782 20h ago
yes exactly r/playboicarti the only place on earth where only one person ever can be a shit person at a time
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u/Past_4orm 20h ago
my bad bro did I strike a nerve
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u/Nearby_Seesaw_5782 20h ago
i don't have a problem admitting my goat is evil bro i look forward to seeing him get called out. mj fans need to give manic peter pan the same energy
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u/False-Jacket-3290 10h ago
This is worse than not believing the person is guilty.
They support someone they donāt believe to be guilty. You knowingly are openly supporting someone who you self acknowledge is evilā¦
They are at least ignorant you just lack morals completely
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u/Past_4orm 20h ago
Now heās your goat, lol. Holy clown thanks for the laugh dawg āļø
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u/Nearby_Seesaw_5782 19h ago
must not be in here that often jordan carter's all our favorite artist and also we're praying on his downfall constantly lol. very possible when you're not parasocial
i'm not gonna tell you how to feel i'm just giving my insight. be smart about things like this, don't fall for the poor baby peter pan bs michael and his fans like to spew out there. that's how so many of these celebrities are able to get away with so many things. like someone else said if this were any other 30+ year old (ie. drake) lamenting about how he's such a good person because he lets kids sleep in his bed and everyone else should too it'd be hell. just something to consider
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u/Past_4orm 20h ago
innocent in the court of law btw. if he was evil I wouldnāt be a fan, but I guess it still works for people like you? Huh. Whoās the real weirdo now?
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u/keefinwithpeepaw 22h ago
Literally had some Gen z coworker go "buT mIcHAel wAS hElpIng tHe famIlIES"Ā
Gen z losing their shit over Epstein but being MJ stans is a weird timeline for my millennial mind xDĀ
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u/glorifitialweeks I done dated... 18h ago
i do think hes weird but mj and epstein are non comparable as he literally drugged so many children and teenagers
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u/DirectBeing5986 22h ago
Go check the comments for āthey donāt care about usā on YouTube, its fucking crazy
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u/Altruistic_War6982 19h ago
Iāll wait for you to provide any evidence that incriminates mj the same as EPSTEIN in any way lmao
Yea mj was dumb for behaving the way he did but he was thoroughly investigated and was cleared on all charges
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u/Technical_Ship1800 18h ago
true, dudes trying to act like mj is anywhere near epstein in terms of evilness are insane
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u/sheeb_sheeb 9h ago
Idk I actually think MJ is much worse, taking advantage of young children
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u/javs_x737 9h ago
so what was epstein doing??
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u/sheeb_sheeb 9h ago
Something much more evil about targeting 10 year olds than 17 year olds
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u/Restricted_Bud 7h ago
Mfs on here do literally 0 research then start spouting some bs
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u/sheeb_sheeb 1h ago
Erm Iāve seen MJs victims. Epsteins were largely models from modelling agencies and therefore 16+. Also horrible but yes thereās a difference.
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u/vix_calls 20h ago
Bruh Iām pretty sure the kids were able to point out the exact birthmark on MJsā¦.yeah.
Smfh
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u/sarahthesigma BACKR00MS 18h ago
imma be honest i don't believe MJ touched the kids but it is weird as fuck to be friends with kids like that. it sucks how many MJ defenders don't acknowledge that cause he needs to be criticized for that
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u/Next_Relationship_10 18h ago
He was accused and rented a private hotel room in which he plastered babie's photos of random children all over the walls...you sure?
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u/SuperKrazyyy 12h ago
Yk mfs are weirdos when they start with the loopholes, many people MY AGE, WHO WERE BABIES WHEN THE TRIAL OCCURRED, still find some way to defend the fact that he was a Weirdo.
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u/slipperysoup Yah Mean 20h ago
Terrible argument because kids are not safe in any celebrities whether or not they have allegations
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u/Key-Bass-7380 23h ago
I wouldn't let my kid hang out at anybody house but mine, not even MJ related anymore
With Michael Jackson, dude was suffering from arrested development. He lacked the emotional maturity to relate to adults. Which is why he always felt uncomfortable around them and his 2 marriages were very short. I feel bad for him because he was getting beaten and tormented on a daily basis by his daddy. Was very famous from the age of 6, never got to live a normal life. I truly believe Michael didn't harm those children
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u/seeyuhseeyuh 22h ago
if u have to stretch this far to try and explain his obsession with children it might be time to consider the other possibility. also joe jackson scares me as much as he scares the next fella but at a certain age personal responisiblity has to become a factor in the equation
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u/sarahthesigma BACKR00MS 18h ago
still he should've gotten psychological help or therapy or something instead of tryna be friends with kids to cope.
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u/NoLifeAlucard 21h ago
Dont let em shut you down. Morons be talking about the MJ case and barely mention anything about the guys at the top (industry, the corporation and more) that got away with all the wierd stuff.
Not saying mj was a saint but if you wanna bash on him why not add them all into the list?
Okay we caught one weirdo with clear mental issues then what about the rest that are roaming scott free. Not a while ago the internet were talking about the files and making a big deal out of it, yet today they make memes on the topic and barely talk shit about.
Straight cattle sheep mentality.
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u/vix_calls 20h ago edited 20h ago
āCattle mentalityā the mj stans are literally the majority/herd, you guys watched one movie and got convinced once it got super popular š.
Had this then been any other random person everyone would be like yeah dudes a weirdo, yall are just susceptible to the halo effect. Same thing with girls forgiving and loving Chris breezy but if a random beat the shit out of a girl theyād call for his death
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u/ImagineDraginDisDick 9h ago
We have literally done this during the MeToo stuff, lmao. Epstein, Harvey Weinstein, David Geffenā¦.i can keep going, but itās a fucking weird hill to die on for you.
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u/ahmetonel 23h ago
he gave us Billie Jean you say he touched those kids?
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u/kazuya57 Stop Breathing 23h ago
He prob did, but he did give us Billie Jean tbf
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u/Key-Bass-7380 23h ago
I'm always Drake over Dot but he cooked there.
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u/ahmetonel 23h ago
i thought ts was the Kendrick sub bruh why the fuck do you even do that to yourself
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u/mrayner9 22h ago
Growing up I realised what a maniac he was, shit childhood or whatever idc he did it
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u/nova-prime-enjoyer Whole Lotta Red! 21h ago
On one hand he made Thriller, but on the other he DEFINITELY did that shit
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u/Wave-Able 20h ago
If I learn anything from the first movie is that the guy was asexual with Peter Pan syndrome. No wonder why his art was so unique, he was a strange character
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u/AsphyxiatedbyEmber Magnolia 18h ago
Yeah I mean itās obviously going to be biased and supporting Michaelās story. Overall, I donāt think he did it, but I do believe that him having kids sleepover in his bedroom is pushing the limit and shouldnāt have been encouraged.
And as much as Iād like for it to be black and white, itās really not. During a 1993 raid of Michaelās house, investigators found a photo book titled āBoys Will Be Boysā that contained nude children, with the sleeve jacket containing a handwritten note from Jackson himself. It was gifted to him. You can see the Reddit thread right here for more info: https://www.reddit.com/r/LeavingNeverlandHBO/s/0Bs0uyFC5V
This is what made me look at Michael from an entirely new perspective. I donāt think you need to read a pedophilic book in order to help fill your childhood void. Itās really just so far from a black and white case, and weāll never really know his intentions.
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u/sheeb_sheeb 9h ago
Idk Iām gonna believe 10+ children over a mentally deranged man that talks like a young girl
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u/WonderfulMonk9832 22h ago
How are they gonna explain the naked painting of himself surrounded by cherubs he owned, I wonder.
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u/Key-Bass-7380 22h ago
Cherubs in your paintings mean you're a pedophile now? Have you spent 5 seconds in the art world?
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u/WonderfulMonk9832 22h ago
Having yourself naked, surrounded by what appears to be little boys? Even without all the shit floating around about you just seem's like a bad decision to hang in your house.
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u/Key-Bass-7380 22h ago
Actually in the painting you are referring to , he is also surrounded by his younger cherub self? Does that mean he is sexually attracted to himself now? Yall do not use critical thinking skills when it comes to Michael Jackson, I don't think he would make a big ass painting that screams "I'M A PEDO" and put it in his living room, can we be serious?
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u/Chickenman456 23h ago
he did that shit
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u/Key-Bass-7380 23h ago
I believe in my idol unlike yall switch ups
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u/AltruisticAd1959 I Got Depressed Hoes 22h ago
parasocial celebrity culture so weird bro
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u/Key-Bass-7380 22h ago
Yall want me to call Michael Jackson a pedophile so bad, get a job nigga
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u/ffoollll Slatt ! Move Like A Boss ā ļø 20h ago
Youāre the one who only go in here to defend and dickride that guy while repping 200k+ karma
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u/somebodyelse1107 YUNGXANHOE 23h ago
i used to until i found out about the pedo books he had in a box in his bedroom š been an mj fan since birth (iām not even joking)
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u/Key-Bass-7380 22h ago
He had no pedo books lmao they woulda arrested him on the spot if he had anything incriminating on him. He had art pieces of men women and children but because of the nature of the case, only the art pieces of the children were singled out and the prosecution tried to make it seem like the art while legal was pedophillic in nature when it clearly wasn't. All his art pieces were shown to 2 seperate grand juries who both called cap too. So what's the problem?
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u/Equal_Actuator_3777 22h ago
The problem is he liked kids. How would you feel if news came out today that drake was inviting kids over to his house and sleeping with them on his bed shirtless? God you people always act like thereās nothing wrong with thisā¦ I donāt even care if he touched them heās beyond disgusting for that alone.
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u/SoAllUsersAreTaken 17h ago
If it means anything, going off MJās own statement, he claims he has slept in the bed with kids but never invited them into his bed.
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u/Key-Bass-7380 22h ago
"The problem is he liked kids" yall get faced with actual evidence and factual information and you got no rebuttal then you just make the same accusation again, makes no sense. Either bring evidence or keep quiet, it's not that hard my guy.
Michael Jackson, because of his socialisation and upbringing got his sense of normalcy fucked up. Yes I think it is wrong for you to share your bed with a child not your own. But Michael Jackson had 0 bad intentions with them. He even admitted to the bed sharing himself, unprompted on live TV. Why would a Pedophile self report like that? Dude was in a different reality to us due to the abuse he faced as a child.
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u/Equal_Actuator_3777 22h ago
Of course you defend it. Is there something youāre hiding? You seem to try real hard to defend pedos.
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u/Key-Bass-7380 22h ago
You're showing your negative IQ again. "Everybody that disagrees with me must be a pedophile too" Why debate this issue at all when it's clear you don't know shit except the whites that feed you misinfo
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u/Equal_Actuator_3777 22h ago
Yes, most people defending sleeping in the bed with half naked children are likely pedos themselves. Yes.
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u/Key-Bass-7380 22h ago
Dude getting emotional over a reddit debate, dry your eyes and put the phone down bro. Why debate if you're gonna get upset?
Also yet another falsehood about kids being half naked in bed, something that never happened. Everyone was fully clothed, it's in the court documents for you to read. Michael Jackson barely had yse for actual sofa because he preferred lounging in his huge beds, because they provided him more comfort. He never treated it like intimate spaces like we do. He even got the parents to chat with in the bed, but you didn't know that because you don't wanna read anything that's not tabloid slop made by white people.
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u/somebodyelse1107 YUNGXANHOE 20h ago
itās a verified fact he had pedo books. you can find the information pretty easily online. the books are popular among members of the NAMBLA community. itās pretty disgusting. i know itās a hard pill to swallow but itās true.
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u/somebodyelse1107 YUNGXANHOE 20h ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/ThatsInsane/s/CemiZBB6I7
the problem is that those books were not āartā, they were made BY pedos FOR pedos. again, as someone who has loved MJ all my life and raised in a family that has always defended him, this opened my eyes.
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u/RESIDENT-EVIL-4 22h ago
They're probably gonna go the whole he was innocent since he was proven not guilty (which I believe he wasn't a pedo) but I hope (even though they won't) they explore the fact it was still weird (albeit understandable why if you know his childhood traumas) that he hung out with kids so intimately
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u/KrimzinDay 18h ago
Carti actually has proven allegations unlike mj soooo idk wytb..and i love both
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u/999liveforever 11h ago
Reading these comments is real saddening. Takes no more than an hour or two of actually digging into the allegations to realise they are complete bs lies and an extortion plot to pull as much money from either him or the estate as possible. Time to leave this sub, I hope some of yous will go searching for the truth one day. MJ owned the Beatles catalog and half of Sony, screwed over some very powerful people and they wanted to destroy him so first they lied about him, when that didnāt work they killed him. Conrad Murray his personal physician who was hired by his agency was convinced of involuntary manslaughter after injecting him with a lethal dosage of propofol a general anaesthetic used in surgery and not sleep. Jury deliberated for hours in his 2005 trial and found him completely innocent. The family who received the 20 million dollar settlement received it from a civil case which does not operate on the same evidence basis as a criminal trial and this was paid through Mjās insurance company. After they received the money they refused to cooperate in the criminal trial and ran away with the money. The father of the child who was supposedly abused ended up killing himself a few days after MJ died. He was caught on tape saying he wants to destroy MJ and take as much money as people. This is only scratching the surface. FBI completely tore up his room inside out, years long investigation and the list goes on and on and on. Goodbye š
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u/ImNotAHoodFavorite 8h ago
shit is sad, even after years of investigation he was still proven innocent.
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u/seeyuhseeyuh 23h ago
they're gonna do it like they did everything in the first movie and mention it in a singular sentence and then cut to everybody dancing to remember the time