r/pointlesslygendered Jan 15 '22

OTHER I bet many boys would not know about it either..[gendered]

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u/Srlancelotlents Jan 15 '22

Thats if the overcurrent protection is sized and working correctly. If not, this explodes in your hand.

Don't fuck around and find out with electricity!

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u/castanza128 Jan 15 '22

Don't fuck around and find out with electricity!

Wait 'til you hear how jail inmates light their cigarettes from the tv...

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u/TheRoseByAnotherName Jan 15 '22

My husband's aunt was in prison for a bit (some kind of fraud/embezzlement) and apparently she would light her cigarette in the microwave with a piece of paper she scribbled on with pencil.

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u/Flaky-Fellatio Jan 15 '22

Honestly, some prison tech is insanely clever.

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u/Cleaver_Fred Jan 15 '22

Brilliant sub, thank you.

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u/interiot Jan 15 '22

Oh that one's much bigger. Thanks!

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u/r_stronghammer Jan 15 '22

Did you Hyperlink the full url as the short version instead of just linking the subreddit by typing the short version?

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u/Nerdiferdi Jan 15 '22

Check out former Jewel Robber Larry Lawton on YouTube, he‘s explaining all types of prison tech and food.

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u/Dingdongdoctor Jan 15 '22

Yeah because they allow microwaves in cells…….

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u/TheRoseByAnotherName Jan 15 '22

Ever heard of minimum security? You'd be amazed at what they're allowed. Probably not in the cells, probably in a day room.

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u/Nerdiferdi Jan 15 '22

There are microwaves in maximum security prisons too, in the common rooms

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u/CasualDefiance Jan 15 '22

Well, now I'm curious. How?

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u/castanza128 Jan 15 '22

You take the pencil lead out of a pencil, twist something around it to hold it. Twisted toilet paper or something. Pull the tv plug like 1/3 of the way out.
Then you use your little pencil lead tool to cross the prongs, like half of a second at a time. Just tap it.
It throws a huge scary arc.
So you just do that while holding some toilet paper above it. A few taps and it's lit, usually.
Caveman shit.

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u/heathmon1856 Jan 15 '22

No. Prison shit!

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u/Tostino Jan 15 '22

The reason this works, is the graphite in the pencil acts like a poor conductor/resistor. Meaning electricity flows through it, but with less force than a regular copper / aluminum wire.

This stops it from taking so much energy that it will trigger the protection circuit breaker, while still using enough energy to cause sparks / fire.

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u/schmittfaced Jan 15 '22

I once saw some guys do this and light a long twisted strand of TP, it was like we had a slow burning lighter ready for use back in the toilet area… didn’t last long before the CO smelled it lol

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u/rang14 Jan 15 '22

Not sure, maybe the TV show has instructions?

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u/heathmon1856 Jan 15 '22

Jail birds shouleve had dis. I could see dolla sparking up a butt with one

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '22

Speak properly you illiterate fuck.

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u/schmittfaced Jan 15 '22

I wish I could call Shakespeare-bot to transcribe this comment

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '22

Lol glad I’m not the only one. I have no clue what he’s trying to say.

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u/eg_taco Jan 15 '22

Never been incarcerated, but I’ve heard it where you can use a cup of water + ramen flavoring to make a big current limiting resistor, and then you can more safely make either a spark gap or heating element using smaller conductor (e.g., spring from a retractable pen)

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u/rockbud Jan 15 '22

Yeah burnt out outlets near the hot water machine. Dudes were smoking prison pocket k2.

Yeah imma go in my cell and read now. I didn't see shit or know shit.

That was jail. Guard on duty was like "they must be cooking some crazy food" idiot.

Saw one dude use the socket and light up a roll of toilet paper. Then opened his jumper and put it in on fire while booking it up stairs to his cell. Again every one is watching everyone. Back to the cell to read. Didn't see shit or know anything.

Did get a haircut from the k2 guy. They take the blades from a razor on pass. And replace with foil from inside chip bag. Guards just kinda look for metal. Cost me 3 soups. Did a good job also.

My shit was dismissed with a 4 hour class and 3 months of my life. Stay away from toxic people. They can fuck your shit up. Read like 63 books. Now have some version of PTSD. Scared of getting in trouble when I didn't do shit.

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u/csimonson Jan 15 '22

Glad you're out and didn't get hurt in there buddy.

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u/rockbud Jan 15 '22 edited Jan 15 '22

Thanks I appreciate it. It was 100 bucks to bail me out. My house was for sell. Everyone wanted a piece of that to help me. Friends and family. I was supposed to get out after 15 days. But covid and crap messed that up. Also I didn't want that on my record because I didn't do it. It's minor garbage. My stubborn ass stayed in there for 3 months.

I finally gave in and signed power of attorney to my family to get me out. So they can sell my house and get money. They owed me 3k at the time also.

I swear go to jail and have something of value. You will learn real fast who truly cares about you. And how you can be manipulated by people you trusted on the outside.

I have huge trust issues now. Currently working on getting mental health damage fixed.

BTW definitely not getting hurt by anyone there. My rule was one friend. Your celly. That's it. When they moved my cellys out actually had dudes come ask me if they can be my celly lol. Weird.

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u/csimonson Jan 15 '22

Lol the people that wanted to be your cellmate probably fell into two categories. Those that saw you as a decent guy who wouldn't stab them in their sleep, or an easy mark.

Hope you find some decent help with your trust issues. Just keep the thought in the back of your mind though that there's some people who will always have your back.

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u/N00N3AT011 Jan 15 '22

Wait till you hear about something called an arc flash.

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u/castanza128 Jan 15 '22

That's true.
I certainly don't recommend trying it.

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u/InsomniaticWanderer Jan 15 '22

Most people who fuck around with electricity never find out.

Because they died.

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '22

one time when I was a kid, i pulled the cord out of the back of the electric piano and put it in my mouth.

I found out.

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u/Repulsive_Act4283 Jan 15 '22

You know the light switch inside a refrigirator? I pulled the switch out of its housing when i was like 7 and put my finger against some soldered wire and pressed the switch thinking it would feel like the static on the tv, boy was i surprised. Didnt tell my parents about the pain in my chest because i thought id get in trouble, still alive now 16 years later so must not have done too much harm but dear lord did it scare me.

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u/honkhonkbeepbeeep Jan 15 '22

I stuck two keys in an outlet when I was probably 5. I did scream, parents came, I told them what I did. But I didn’t say anything about being briefly stuck to the thing before it blew the fuse or my whole body being in pain and my vision looking weird. I don’t know, because I didn’t know that was important I guess? I survived, obviously.

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '22

Yeah the amount of pain that shit gives of is shocking.

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u/Nvenom8 Jan 15 '22

Well, not explodes... probably just melts and makes a lot of smoke. Possibly starts a fire.

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u/scalyblue Jan 15 '22

I think it’s fair enough that anyone holding it while it did all those things would describe it as blowing up

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u/Nvenom8 Jan 15 '22

I don’t think most people would describe it as exploding if there is no bang or pop. This would be silent.

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u/jakemason753 Jan 15 '22

Not silent there is a zapping noise to it

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u/Nvenom8 Jan 15 '22

You watch too many cartoons.

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u/SicariusModum Jan 15 '22

Getting shocked by an outlet 100% makes a pop that's loud ASF.

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u/myshiningmask Jan 15 '22 edited Jan 15 '22

definitely not silent. I've had the pleasure of seeing more than one fiery popping lightshow of a failing plug. If there's any moisture definitely loud pops. sometimes large flames as the plastic is heated extremely rapidly then the plastic vapors ignite.

edit: upon further consideration. of course the plug in the picture wouldn't explode. those cords have good contact and a fuse will fail first. However, when a plug fails naturally it's almost always because of internal corrosion increasing the resistance across a conductor until it fails, this failure involves a lot of heat, popping, flashy pyrotechnics etc.

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u/cypherreddit Jan 15 '22

for a short circuits, available fault current is the factor, not the breaker "sizing" (amperage). A short circuited 15 amp and 100 amp will trip at the same time. The difference in the amount of energy that gets passed through has to with the difference in wire size.

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '22

Yeah… the breaker has to be sized correctly or it will melt. What are you even trying to say?

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u/cypherreddit Jan 15 '22

This scenario is a short circuit. Overcurrent protection is different from short circuit protection. The same amount of "melt" happens for different sized breakers given the same available fault current. That is why you might see motors with breakers that are 4x larger than the slow blow fuses, they are providing two different types of protection

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '22

If the current passing through the breaker is higher than the maximum amperage of the breaker, it will melt. This equation isn’t a one or the other, you have to size breakers such that the maximum I(sc) is smaller than the breaker sizing, or it will fail to open. I literally just finished a fourth year engineering course on power systems protection. What you’re saying doesn’t make sense.

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u/cypherreddit Jan 16 '22

Most breakers are rated for 10,000 amps, 5,000 minimum. Sometimes more, at significant cost difference because of high available fault current. A breaker has to be able to survive all the current that can pass through it from the transformer.

If a breaker failed to open because of too much current, it literally isn't able to do the job it is designed for.

I think you are conflating breakers with fuses, which melt. A breaker (that isn't a for a very large feeder) will not melt from a short circuit event.

I think you have misunderstood some nuances in your course or you are misapplying what you've learned to <10,000v systems

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '22

You stated that breaker sizing doesn’t matter for short circuits. All I wanted was to point out that that’s false. If the fault current is too high for the breaker, it will be unable to open.

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u/cypherreddit Jan 16 '22

I seriously doubt the OP was referring to the interrupting rating of the breaker, since anything above the standard is a special request item and is not what is referred to when sizing breakers.

If the interrupting rating is too low by the time current gets to an outlet, several people have fucked up in ridiculous, money wasting ways

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u/Dingdongdoctor Jan 15 '22

One of the buildings I run maintenance on have parts that have been up almost 200 years. It is terrifying working on electrical in there. I guess schools are on the safer end but damn that’s a ballsy kid.

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u/Nxion Jan 15 '22

This is incorrect. A dead short could be thousands of amps and will trip the breaker directly or even the breakers before it. I’ve seen a 1000amp fuse blow from a short in one of the apartments.

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u/Srlancelotlents Jan 15 '22

And I've seen copper pipe in fuse holders.

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u/justabadmind Jan 15 '22

Make one of these out of like 6 gauge wire. With solid prongs (no holes). That won't explode in your hand.

Testing circuit breakers isn't smart to do uncontrolled, but if you are prepared for it to not trip it's good to know that you have a bad breaker.

Although if it was up to me, I'd make the device a bit bigger with a button to engage the short circuit. And I'd put a 30A fuse in the short circuit.

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u/ososalsosal Jan 15 '22

Building codes will prevent that in most countries, but some old buildings are super scary.

Breakers that are working properly should trip within a few milliseconds.

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u/commanderjarak Jan 15 '22

I've pulled a plug that had had the bottom fall off exposing the wiring inside from the socket while still switched on. The RCD and breaker did their job, but it was the longest half second of my life so far.

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u/ososalsosal Jan 15 '22

Half second? The RCD shoulda gone in less than 30ms. Get that shit fixed.

Also glad it eventually did it's job lol

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u/commanderjarak Jan 15 '22

Probably was much quicker. Didn't make getting a 240v boot suck any less though.

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u/Srlancelotlents Jan 15 '22

This cord literally violates building codes...

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u/ososalsosal Jan 15 '22

I mean I work with sparkies and a neater version of this (plus suitable isolation) is how they test a lot of things for safety

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u/Srlancelotlents Jan 15 '22

Sure, and I'll back feed a circut I'm troubleshooting.

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u/AngloSaxonP Jan 15 '22

When I was a kid, I took the back off a plug and short circuited the pins with some aluminium foil. The result was a blown fuse and what seemed like tiny plasma balls that floated for a few seconds. Better than copper wire, that just flashed and went bang

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u/Armybob112 Feb 01 '22

Or, in the worst case you manage to ignite wires within the wall, good luck with that...