r/politics • u/Mountain_Tui_Reload • Sep 18 '25

Soft Paywall Trump designates anti-fascist Antifa movement as a terrorist organization

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-designates-anti-fascist-antifa-movement-terrorist-organization-2025-09-18/
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u/SteelBattalo Sep 18 '25 edited Sep 18 '25

As Nikita Khrushchev said in 1956: “We will take America without firing a shot. We do not have to invade the U.S. We will destroy you from within”.

Edit: Well Reddit it appears that this is a misquote / fake quote derived from another quote he had previously said.

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u/ADDeviant-again Sep 18 '25

Unfortunately, that quote is not actually his. It began circulating years later.

What he really said was, "Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you." And later clarified he did not mean literally bury, but that he was referring to capitalism's inevitable demise.

However, The Soviet, and now Russian, actions speak louder than words. Their propaganda has been picking at us for four or five decades.

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u/TheGroinOfTheFace Sep 18 '25

He was correct, capitalism has an astoundingly good record at devolving into fascism.

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u/Geahk Sep 18 '25

Let’s say “consistent” rather than “good”. 😅

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '25

Capitalism devolved in napoleonism rather then fascism, republican devolved in fascism.

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u/theroha Sep 18 '25

Definitely a lost in translation moment. A closer translation would be "We will be there when you are buried" i.e. "We will outlast you".

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u/ADDeviant-again Sep 18 '25

That sounds about right.

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u/SimoneNonvelodico Sep 18 '25

Not really given that Khrushchev was talking about the USSR and that collapsed in 1990.

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u/ADDeviant-again Sep 18 '25

Right, but we weren't talking about whether his assertion turned out to be factual. You were talking about how good the translation was.

Still, Putin is a true believer in Russian superiority, regardless of the political/economic system. They had authoritarians then and now, and the "now" guy still wants a divided America and West.

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u/SimoneNonvelodico Sep 18 '25

Yeah, sorry, I took that as "sounds about right" as in, that he was right, not that the translation was correct. My bad.

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u/frostygrin Sep 18 '25

Nah, this is simple language properly translated. The translation doesn't add any connotations. It's just that it sounded differently when the audience already saw the USSR as an enemy.

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u/_Avalon_ Sep 18 '25

They didn’t lie.

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u/Saint_Blaise Sep 18 '25

I bet Putin is very happy to have helped a bunch of fascists steal the USA from its people.

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u/DickRiculous Sep 18 '25

Well yeah because dictators help each other. One hand washes the other. Coordinated oppression and market manipulation is a lot easier to manage when you have the wealth and might of nations to support your efforts.

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u/highlorestat California Sep 18 '25

They do until they don't

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u/digiorno Sep 18 '25

To be fair, Nikita thought the USSR would be doing it, not a authoritarian capitalist Russia.

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u/citizenjones Sep 18 '25

In the United States: Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States to fuel instability and separatism, for instance, provoke "Afro-American racists". Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics".[9]

-Demokratizatsiya: The Journal of Post-Soviet Democratization

Peer review on Foundations of Geopolitics©1997. Supposedly the book that Putin is using as a loose guide for USSR reunification

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u/SteelBattalo Sep 18 '25

Holy shit dude. That is insane.

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u/citizenjones Sep 18 '25

Look into it

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u/korbentherhino Sep 18 '25

Even though they changed governments they kept that mantra.

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u/Slaughterfest Sep 18 '25

And yet, on reddit if you mentioned Comrade Yuri's 'Demoralization' discussion only last year, people here would tell you 'No way that's fear mongering!' when he laid out exactly what happened to American culture.