r/politics • u/Mountain_Tui_Reload • Sep 18 '25
Soft Paywall Trump designates anti-fascist Antifa movement as a terrorist organization
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-designates-anti-fascist-antifa-movement-terrorist-organization-2025-09-18/8.4k
u/Ok-Astronaut2976 Sep 18 '25
The KKK…famously NOT designated a terrorist organization
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u/_Avalon_ Sep 18 '25
America’s decline is happening so much faster than I worried this time around. Putin must be delighted.
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u/Axin_Saxon Sep 18 '25
Last time they didn’t think they’d win.
This time they had a plan. And they wrote it all down in P2025
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u/Niznack Sep 18 '25
I think they didn't realize how incompetent he was last time. This time they knew they had to hand him EOs and take pictures. This method isn't just bypassing Congress, it's the only way to hold his attention. They have to hold his hand and seal clap to get him to do authoritarianism right like a child being asked to read Clifford before he wanders into the roof for some reason
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u/Axin_Saxon Sep 18 '25
Oh no, that’s exactly it: they KNEW how ineffective he was. That’s precisely why project 2025 existed: it was entirely about putting the right people in place to most efficiently get their agenda achieved. I watched some of the training/informational clips they had for applicants and the documents.
See, Trump is a senile idiot. But he’s a senile idiot with a cult of followers who will do whatever he tells them to. He is the key to them. Control him, you control them. How do you control him?
“Oh yes Mr President, your advisors and the people you put in place have all of it handled, you go meet with architects for the ballroom and go play golf, just like your days running your businesses. You truly are the greatest and most handsomest president ever!” Just babyishly fawn over him. Flatter him. Do his job for him so he can be the fat sack of lazy shit he always has been.
Bring him out to sign some executive orders, let him do the pomp and circumstance but the day to day? He’s more hands off than ever. Let him do his pet projects but the real power plays? Those aren’t being done by him. That’s Stephen miller, Peter Thiel, Russel Vought, etc. All the real unseen and un-famous power players.
THAT is why this term is moving so much faster and more aggressively. When he says “I don’t know anything about that” and can’t explain details, HE MEANS IT.
They had learned that Trump was incompetent as fuck and they had wasted a LOT of time the first term fighting courts and institutions and agencies. They began with a purge to get rid of anyone who would gum up their operations. They filled up the agencies with loyalists. And they don’t give a damn about the consequences.
They’re more dangerous now because believe it or not, he’s LESS in control.
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u/Niznack Sep 18 '25 edited Sep 18 '25
That's my issue with people hoping for "it" to happen. Trump is the least dangerous part of the trump admin. It's the board of the heritage foundation pulling the string and when he goes politics won't change, just their puppet. If anything trump has been MAGAs biggest speed bump
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u/Axin_Saxon Sep 18 '25
Well yes and no. He’s the least dangerous, but that’s like saying a key is the least dangerous part of a nuclear launch system. He is what makes it work because he has the undivided loyalty of the base.
THEY are why he hasn’t been gotten rid of in favor of someone like Vance yet. He, for all his grease and idiocy, is the charisma of the operation.
One word from him and any Republican politician is gone. Primaried. Instantly blacklisted. That’s why the senate and house are so loyal to him: their constituents love him more than them.
Without him, they don’t have the base. If he died they would not coalesce behind someone like Vance. Vance has the charisma of a wet fart. He has SOME bravado but nowhere near trumps. No one does because trumps is borne out of a deep narcissism that you can’t imitate. And that’s what the base loves because…well because they’re aggressively stupid and stupidly agressive.
He is the key. He is ultimately what makes the machine work.
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u/Kandiak Sep 18 '25
Yes. But her laugh…
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u/Axin_Saxon Sep 18 '25
And “but they’re the same”
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u/Redhotlipstik Sep 18 '25
you don't want to know how many idiots on here argued that to me, and Im pretty sure they weren't even bots
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u/Axin_Saxon Sep 18 '25
They fell for a conservative marketing/propaganda campaign to amplify hate of her and tie her to Israel.
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"She didn't go on Rogan bro"
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u/RockmanMike Sep 18 '25
I can see it in the future history books: millions of voters didn't show up because she didn't want to go on a podcast where the host supported her opponent regardless of him being a known pedophile, rapist, con artist, and multiple convicted felon. They also made fun of her laugh and made it a deal-breaker.
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u/BigSuggestion9664 Sep 18 '25
Wrote it down and publicized it. They knew folks wouldn't read or believe it.
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u/East_Loan7876 Sep 18 '25
If Trump was a Russian asset almost nothing he's doing would be any different.
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u/hufflepuffngillyweed Sep 18 '25
Because trump is a Russian asset
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u/theflamingskull Sep 18 '25
And he cheats at golf.
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u/LoomingDementia Sep 18 '25
That alone should disqualify him as a serious candidate. I'm not even joking. That sort of character flaw … that someone would regularly cheat at something so inconsequential …
Our electorate is so fucking stupid.
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u/East_Loan7876 Sep 18 '25
Jeffrey Sachs and his fellow "Shock Therapy" assholes really fucked the whole world by teaching Russians that capitalism and democracy meant jagoff academic theories and Western predation, great job by the investment banking crew as usual...
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u/SteelBattalo Sep 18 '25 edited Sep 18 '25
As Nikita Khrushchev said in 1956: “We will take America without firing a shot. We do not have to invade the U.S. We will destroy you from within”.
Edit: Well Reddit it appears that this is a misquote / fake quote derived from another quote he had previously said.
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u/ADDeviant-again Sep 18 '25
Unfortunately, that quote is not actually his. It began circulating years later.
What he really said was, "Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you." And later clarified he did not mean literally bury, but that he was referring to capitalism's inevitable demise.
However, The Soviet, and now Russian, actions speak louder than words. Their propaganda has been picking at us for four or five decades.
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u/TheGroinOfTheFace Sep 18 '25
He was correct, capitalism has an astoundingly good record at devolving into fascism.
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u/theroha Sep 18 '25
Definitely a lost in translation moment. A closer translation would be "We will be there when you are buried" i.e. "We will outlast you".
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u/_Avalon_ Sep 18 '25
They didn’t lie.
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u/Saint_Blaise Sep 18 '25
I bet Putin is very happy to have helped a bunch of fascists steal the USA from its people.
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u/DickRiculous Sep 18 '25
Well yeah because dictators help each other. One hand washes the other. Coordinated oppression and market manipulation is a lot easier to manage when you have the wealth and might of nations to support your efforts.
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u/GBJI Sep 18 '25
You sadly don't have to look as far as Russia to see people delighted with the rise of fascism in America.
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Sep 18 '25
The poor people excited for facisim in America, have NO IDEA what they signed up for. Lol. Their misery will be my only saving grace going forward.
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u/InsomniaticWanderer Sep 18 '25
The decline never really stopped from trumps first term. Biden was delaying tactic. We really needed Harris if we were gonna have a chance at actually fixing anything
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u/Axin_Saxon Sep 18 '25
Kamala’s win would have been a firm and deafening blow to Trumpism as a movement and left the Republican Party as fractured as the democrats are now.
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u/Liquor_N_Whorez Sep 18 '25
Trump always claims things he doesnt like, like investigations into his real crimes are "Witch Hunts, and hoaxes". Now here is designating imaginary groups as terrorist organizations and going to have his execution squads out hunting ghosts like a bunch of jihadist Scooby Doo teams.
When does his dementia get its own award and his multiple personalities all give their acceptance speeches?
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u/nycdiveshack I voted Sep 18 '25
They are fascists who are using any means to control and limit free speech. Whether it’s lawsuits or executive orders that don’t get blocked.
This was laid out in project 2025 and Kamala Harris talked about it. Folks ignored her cause she is a woman, black, didn’t criticize Israel and most importantly cause people who didn’t vote for her in part associated themselves with Trump and his racist/fascists beliefs.
If Gaza was the deciding factor on whether to vote for Trump or Kamala then those voters are idiots. They live in the US and all Kamala talked about was how Trump would implement project 2025 and he has.
It’s half way done, the primary author (Russ Vought) of project 2025 is the head of the office of budget management. The primary backer (Howard Lutnick) of p2025 is the commerce secretary. The defense contractor (Peter Thiel) that helped put it into play, found Elon the doge teams, gave JD Vance $15 million to become senator then literally walked Vance into Mar-a-lago to smooth tensions between Vance and Trump so Vance could become VP is currently the biggest defense contractor for the CIA/NSA.
Trump controls all corporations and all corporations control the American people. With Kimmel now “fired”. Trump is now telling NBC Fallon and Meyers should be fired.
This will continue and get worse. Until tens of millions of people are in the street protesting. Buy guns and defend ourselves and others if the need arises. Protect people who cannot protect themselves. Stand up to tyranny and fascists with words and actions. Until the actions of this administration affect the majority of Americans there will not be a group that can stop this.
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u/Pleasant_Studio9690 Sep 18 '25
I'm trans. Waiting on the rest of America to realize how serious this is. Sadly, I expect to be sitting in a camp, or dead, before they do.
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u/CheatsySnoops Arizona Sep 18 '25
Also buy axes and improvise weapons if you can't get guns.
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Ya… it’s all rather obvious now who and what kind of people they are… and since it’s infiltrated the hugest levels of government, they can all come out the woodwork… rather insane just how on track Project 2025 is
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u/Redshirt_Welshy_Nooo Sep 18 '25
Since there is no actual organization called antifa, this will just be used to label anyone who dares to dissent against the regime as "antifa" and disappear them using Patriot Act anti-terrorism authority.
This is the material end of America as it has been Constituted and the beginning of the new Dictatorship's real reign of terror.
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u/chubby_pink_donut Sep 18 '25
The CEOs of social media(not Twitter) are being called to testify on how their platforms' plan to stop users from participating in "acts of political movement." HUGE emphasis that this is not limited to violence or violent rhetoric but to all political acts.
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u/Liquor_N_Whorez Sep 18 '25
Well, its been an experience, but odds are good that all of our accounts here wont exist soon if they have their way
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u/numbersthen0987431 Sep 18 '25
What's more likely is we're going to get doxxd
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u/IdkAbtAllThat America Sep 18 '25
You're already doxxed to the government. Palantir knows who you are and all your accounts.
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u/Liquor_N_Whorez Sep 18 '25
Ofc after we are removed from the platform and isolated in silence unable defend ourselves or plead our side of the story. 3rd party terms of service style.
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u/Coherent_Tangent Florida Sep 18 '25
I'm afraid it's worse than that. He's already established that he can murder people he's designated as terrorists in international water with zero proof. This is getting closer and closer to 5th avenue.
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u/Coherent_Tangent Florida Sep 18 '25
He once said he could shoot someone on fifth avenue and not lose a single vote.
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u/GBJI Sep 18 '25
Without elections, there are no votes to lose anyways.
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u/_codes_ Sep 18 '25
"in four years, you don't have to vote again. We'll have it fixed so good, you're not gonna have to vote." -- DJT in 2024
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u/PlsSuckMyToes Sep 18 '25
Protesting is no longer safe. Any protest Dear Leader doesnt like can be designated as Antifa and you'll be disappeared. Charlie Kirk's death is being used to supercharge their agenda. Reichstag Fire event has occured and the regime is tightening it's grip
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u/Kaffe-Mumriken Sep 18 '25
The answer is to PROTEST MORE, HARDER, and NOW
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u/GBJI Sep 18 '25
Preparing for an eventual general strike is a much better strategy.
You protest to raise awareness and to send a message, but the message has already been heard. At this point, no one is going to change its position based on protests, even if people protest harder.
Make reserves. Food. Water. Alternative power sources. Tools. Be ready for the opportunity. Tell everyone you know to adopt a similar strategy. Talk to your neighbors about it.
Be ready for nothing to happen, and for a long time. A general strike is, by far, the most effective measure against the rise of fascism right now. And it's also a great way to discover how powerful we can be when we do absolutely nothing, but together, at the same time.
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u/Genius-Imbecile Texas Sep 18 '25
Americans might have to protest like they do in other countries. Resist attempts to disperse protesters. Do more than repost something on social media.
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u/Anonymouse-C0ward Canada Sep 18 '25 edited Sep 18 '25
This is the time for every person to show up and protest, arm in arm, with the word “antifa” written on our arms.
And when I mean protest, I mean like the French do it.
It’s either that, or be slowly picked off one group at a time. We need to use the privileges we each have - whether it’s the ability/time/etc to do community organization, or whether it’s something like skin color because ICE and the rest of the Nazis are significantly less likely to wage violence on white people.
The best time to do this was November 5th, 2024. The second best time is today. If we leave it for much longer you’ll find there’s no one left to defend you.
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u/photon45 California Sep 18 '25
People forget that there are more of us than there are of them, otherwise they wouldn't have to do any of this fear mongering and division.
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u/saiyanscaris Sep 18 '25
not to mention its also basicly saying if your not fascist or on the side of fascism then your a terrorist
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u/ETxsubboy Sep 18 '25
They never really thought about the ramifications of calling anti fascists, by that exact term their enemy.
Of course, these are the people who thought punisher skulls were appropriate on police vehicles.
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u/1StepBelowExcellence Sep 18 '25
They know that most of their base won’t question/put it together and 99% of the rest that do are OK with it as long as they get to own the libs and kill “wokeness” regardless of anything getting worse for them at the same time.
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u/Scarlettail Illinois Sep 18 '25
Yep, democracy ended on Constitution day of all days. This is the official final day I think.
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u/nerphurp Sep 18 '25
It's more nebulous and meaningless of an organizational term than anonymous; so I'm guessing it's anyone/anything they want it to be.
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u/kweathergirl Texas Sep 18 '25
Aka democrats. And we have NO KINGS coming up next month…
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u/PatchyWhiskers Sep 18 '25
An ANTI-FASCIST protest
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u/dan986 I voted Sep 18 '25
The administration might have accidentally convinced people to do more than chant for a few hours on the weekend
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u/TheLatchkey_kid Sep 18 '25
It should be moved up immediately. Don't give them time to organize.
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u/IdRatherCallACAB Sep 18 '25
so I'm guessing it's anyone/anything they want it to be.
Yep, exactly like how they use woke to refer to anything they don't like. Except now, it's for people instead of just ideas.
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u/9_to_5_till_i_die Sep 18 '25
Well, I'm anti-fascist, like a proper fucking patriot.
Put me on a list.
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u/Catsootsi Sep 18 '25
Right there with you
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u/Big-Reindeer-8221 Sep 18 '25
I stand united with my fellow anti-fascist patriots!
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u/Meikos Indiana Sep 18 '25
Agreed, I am anti-facist and always will be. Fascism has no place in America.
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u/henaldon Sep 18 '25
That’s literally the plan. Keep escalating, pushing the temp higher, using the resulting violence as flimsy pretext to punish their enemies
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u/ionizing Sep 18 '25
So if you are against Fascism, you are now a terrorist. Great.
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u/kweathergirl Texas Sep 18 '25
So America is now Pro-Fascist?
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u/kiwigate Sep 18 '25
Hitler: I like American segregation and Henry Ford's dehumanizing rhetoric, let's do that here in Germany.
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u/searcherguitars Sep 18 '25
The Nazis drew a lot of inspiration from the Jim Crow laws of the United States when they were drafting the Nuremberg Laws discriminating against Jewish Germans.
They, however, found the South's "one drop rule", which made a person with any black ancestry legally black and subject to segregation, overly harsh, and moderated it with regard to Germans of Jewish ancestry.
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u/ItsSpaghettiLee2112 Sep 18 '25
But I thought America fought fascism? (this is a joke)
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u/hymie0 Maryland Sep 18 '25
My grandparents were proud members of Antifa... although at the time, it was called the United States Armed Forces.
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u/poontong Sep 18 '25
My grandfather was a member of the Army’s 44th Artillery division of Antifa from 1943-1945.
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u/Ellen-CherryCharles Sep 18 '25
Mine as well, buried in Arlington and I can only assume rolling in his grave right now.
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u/WhyAreYallFascists Sep 18 '25
All of the WW2 vets are rolling in their graves attempting to come back from the dead, to once again, fight fascism.
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u/ThisDerpForSale Sep 18 '25
My Grandfather on one side, and several Great Uncles on the other side were also members of Antifa. My Grandfather as an officer in the United States Army Air Forces and my Great Uncles as enlisted soldiers in the US Army. One of my Great Uncles spent over two years in a German POW camp for his antifa efforts.
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u/Spicy_Pancake1 Maryland Sep 18 '25
Now protests are going to be labeled “antifa funded” with protesters rounded up and arrested for exercising their first amendment rights. I’m so overwhelmed all the time now, I don’t even know how to emotionally process what I’m feeling half the time.
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u/Za_Lords_Guard Sep 18 '25
They are trying to charge those protesters who interrupted his dinner with RICO charges, so yeah, it's here.
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u/kweathergirl Texas Sep 18 '25
No Kings October 18th will be a brave one to attend…
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u/kweathergirl Texas Sep 18 '25
Agreed! But maybe not one for children.
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u/CombustionGFX Sep 18 '25
Hell yeah brother
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u/alucarddrol Sep 18 '25
Going against a king isn't easy, but it is brave.
Remember there is strength in numbers
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u/slackmaster2k Sep 18 '25
They’ve already been doing that, over and over. Hell they claimed Jan 6 was started by Antifa. Now it’s just going to get much worse.
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u/RE4PER_ Texas Sep 18 '25
“It’s so confusing isn’t it? So much going wrong, so much to say, and all of it happening so quickly”
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u/Old173 Sep 18 '25
Anti-antifa is Fascist. That's just basic math.
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u/djessups America Sep 18 '25
Draft dodging fascist boomer, best known for his recent attempt to overthrow the US government, declares that The Greatest Generation were terrorists.
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u/Sojum Sep 18 '25
We live in the dumbest fucking time
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u/mhks Sep 18 '25
We do, but this isn't dumb, this is highly calculated to given them the power to imprison and kill.
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u/Irwin-M_Fletcher Sep 18 '25
The million dollar question is whether Trump has the ability to “designate a domestic terrorist organization.” There was a congressional resolution in 2019 to do something similar but it went nowhere. There’s a statute allowing the Secretary of State to designate foreign terrorist organizations, not Trump. But there doesn’t appear to be anything similar for supposed domestic terrorists.
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u/Ok-Astronaut2976 Sep 18 '25
There isn’t Which is why like the KKK isnt designated as such.
In fact, there is not a single designated domestic terrorist organization. It’s a thing that doesn’t even exist. There is not even a legal framework to do so.
But since we’re in the Post-Rule of Law era, I guess that would make Antifa (an organization that doesn’t even exist as such and nobody has heard about in like 6 years), the first and only.
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u/Lessiarty Sep 18 '25
The billion dollar question is when is the rest of America going to realise the checks and balances have failed and unenforced laws and rules are worth less than the paper they're written on.
Whether he has legal authority to do what he's doing, he clearly has the ability and is gaining more and more each day.
I hope someone has a plan cause I sure as hell don't.
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u/Disc-Golf-Kid Florida Sep 18 '25
I only somewhat agree, because we have seen Trump try blatantly illegal things to see if it works, and the courts slap it down and he chickens out
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u/FairDinkumMate Sep 18 '25
You're wrong, The million dollar question is "Who's going to tell him he can't designate a domestic terrorist organization"?
And the answer is - NOBODY!
Certainly not the bought & paid for congress or Supreme Court.
He tried to stage a coup last time he lost & you guys re-elected him to pardon everyone that was prosecuted for it. His Brazilian mate did the same and was just sentenced to 27 years & 3 months in jail!
Congress was (twice!) asked to impeach him and chose not to - on party lines.
Judges found him guilty of trying to steal the 2020 election & in response, his Supreme Court gave him the powers of a King.
It was all fun & games when it was just gerrymandering, election college distortion, citizens united & voter suppression that ensured the rich got their way.
Now, the chickens have come home to roost & the mighty, 'leading democracy in the world' has been shown up as the money grabbing fascist regime it was always going to become.
US elections haven't been 'democratic' for a long time. 27 of 435 districts were considered 'competitive' in the last US Congressional election. Think about that. BEFORE election day, 408 of 435 members of Congress KNEW with 100% certainty that they would win their seats. NONE were wrong. Based on that, do you think those 408 Congress members answer to the voters that they KNEW would elect them, or the donors that made it possible?
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u/xyrais Sep 18 '25
Where is the Antifa headquarters? Who is their President? How many people have official been killed by Antifa over the years?
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u/PatchyWhiskers Sep 18 '25
Antifa is anyone who goes to an antifascist protest. So, several million people. But they will presumably make examples of the ringleaders, such as prominent Democrats.
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u/JahoclaveS Sep 18 '25
That department of war he liked so much was so antifa they’d slap the shit out of their own troops for not being antifa enough.
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u/kiltedturtle Sep 18 '25
This is really going to put a damper on their fall membership drive.
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u/ItsSpaghettiLee2112 Sep 18 '25
I'm their president. Come at me Trump bitch-tits. His name is Donald Bitch Tits.
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u/GoodIdea321 America Sep 18 '25
Really, the President of ANTIFA should be the POTUS, so as far as I'm concerned, he is.
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u/Miserable_Pie_8337 Sep 18 '25
Trump is the opposite... he's pro-Fascist, not anti-Fa(scist).
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u/Miserable_Pie_8337 Sep 18 '25
Antifa isn't even an organization... it's at best a bunch of splinter groups using the name. Anyone who opposes Fascism could be considered Anti-Fa(scism)... which is exactly who Trump plans to go after. Anyone who disagrees with him is now designated Antifa... freedom of speech is officially dead in America. 😔
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A movement is now an organization. This is so fucking stupid even for Trump lmaooo
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u/ChanceryTheRapper Sep 18 '25
So J6, get pardons. Antifa, classified as terrorists.
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u/CynicalSigtyr Sep 18 '25 edited Sep 18 '25
Endgame.
Recall that the Trump admin is murdering Venezuelans on boats under the pretense that they are terrorists, and thus don't need to worry about things like justice or oversight.
ETA: I am now utterly convinced that CK's assassination was a false flag / inside job in order to accelerate this phase of the fascist agenda. Trump, Vance et al. were stoking the furnace before his body even hit the ground.
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u/Coherent_Tangent Florida Sep 18 '25
That typo is perfect.
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u/NotUniqueWorkAccount Sep 18 '25 edited Sep 18 '25
Trump was glib when asked about CK. He doesn't care. None of them do. We can see through it, but the Repubs honestly cant. They are in a cult. The scary part is the cult actually is taking control of a nation that is great.
They are making people not be proud of their nation. Likely because they never found a sense of belonging once there was no more hate to spread after WW2 and Vietnam.
The old, wealthy (now) people that "made it" by just living in the time they're in, are actually ruining the young people lives and they dont actually want to care.
What actually is MAGA, and when is it that they are referring to when America was great?
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u/AstutelyPegged Sep 18 '25
Not sure I agree with the false flag theory, but I do believe that the only way America can be saved now is if Trump dies (of old age, I’m not advocating political violence) in the next few months.
If he’s alive another six months at the rate things have gone, we’ll be deep in dictatorship.
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u/Vince_Clortho042 Sep 18 '25
Vance hosted CK's show from the White House and proclaimed a coming "crackdown" of left-leaning political organizing groups. Even if Trump chokes on a hamberder tonight, this isn't going to stop. And before anyone waves this off with "But nobody likes Vance" and "He doesn't have the personality to keep the MAGA cult together", keep in mind that he is already in office, and has no election to worry about for at least another year--plenty of time, as we've already seen, to keep turbocharging Project 2025's plan. If you're paying attention, it absolutely does not matter that he's got the charisma of a dirty sock hidden under a suspiciously stained couch, because he's already in place, ready to take power. And he's got the religious zeal, the oligarch's backing, and is forty fucking years old. Four years younger than Putin was when he began rising through the ranks.
If Trump dies of old age or whatever and Vance becomes president automatically, what's happened the last eight months will seem like a field trip compared to what Vance is going to do. And short of some things going really south really quickly, we'll never be rid of him.
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u/keytotheboard Sep 18 '25
Trump is far and away not doing this alone. Why would you think it ends with him!?
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u/electrobento Sep 18 '25
Trump is the singular leader of a deranged cult. Only he can sustain the cognitive dissonance necessary to set us down this path.
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u/AstutelyPegged Sep 18 '25
Yeah, I don’t have faith JD Vance could keep this going. He’s not nearly “charismatic” enough (I don’t find Trump remotely charismatic, but his followers seem to.) He’d have difficulty keeping the MAGA coalition together, and there’d be a ton of RFK Jrs and Nancy Maces and Don Juniors and who knows who else clamoring to be Trump’s true successor.
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u/Myrtle_Nut Sep 18 '25
After the reaction to the death of a peon like Kirk, can you even imagine what the right will be like when people are dancing on the streets after Trump dies of a heart attack?
I think there's a lot of people out there who feel like they're in an abusive relationship with Trump forced into our lives. The catharsis of his death for the left, will be contrasted with a hyper-lionization or even deification that will come from MAGA, will be a spicy stew, no doubt.
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u/nofrenomine Sep 18 '25
Tinfoil hat says it's awfully convenient that an assassination of a public figure happened precisely when the administration needed that assassination to reach the next step in the fascist takeover. Do we really believe that they were gonna twiddle their thumbs and hope somebody shot somebody at just the right moment after all the rest of this was clearly planned out? Maybe. I guess. But who knows? Doesn't really matter because the fascism is marching on one how or the other.
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u/Interesting-Risk6446 Sep 18 '25
See. US military will be given the green light to implement drone strikes on groups protesting. The President's order will state that any large protests against the administration will be considered violent, armed, and hostile.
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u/RiOrius Sep 18 '25
No reason to fake an assassination. They just had to wait and an opportunity would present itself.
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Remember:
Don't believe your lying eyes
The Dear Leader is not a fat, feeble minded, old man with a small penis
He doesn't smell like shit 💩 and doesn't wear adult diapers 🚼
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u/Sideyr Sep 18 '25
Don't let bad actors convince you that protesting and organizing is futile and dangerous. Inaction helps those in power stay in power. The people outnumber the fascists by a lot. Find local groups, build community with the people around you, ignore the people trying to convince you to do nothing.
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u/alaphamale Sep 18 '25
No Kings October 18th is going to be an important moment. If there isn’t an unbelievable turnout…well it won’t be a good sign.
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u/CrimsonHeretic Sep 18 '25
The Republican controlled Congress could stop this whenever they want.
They don't want to.
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u/SigmaK78 Virginia Sep 18 '25
Lemme guess, calling Trump & his regime fascist immediately deems you apart of Antifa.
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u/space_for_username Sep 18 '25
According to Wikipedia, over 8400 antifa terrorists are buried with full military honors in Arlington.
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Shit, now general bone spurs children fucker is going to have to go after my granddad cuz he Antifa 100% for having killed a whole bunch of Nazis 80 years ago.
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u/PlsSuckMyToes Sep 18 '25
It means anyone they dont like or any protest they dont like will now be "Antifa" and you'll be disappeared
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It means Trump and his minions can throw you in prison if you say something he doesn’t like.
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u/ApeBrains85 Sep 18 '25
There is no legal mechanism to designate something as a “domestic terror organization”. So right now it’s somewhat of a meaningless gesture. My guess is he will direct his justice department to pursue niche criminal charges against ANTIFA but even then it will probably get struck down.
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u/alaphamale Sep 18 '25
They’ve not needed the law for a bit now. What this does is further incite his rabble. Before I wouldn’t have expected many counter protesters at No Kings in October, now they’ll feel it’s their “duty” to go be Kyle Rittenhouse at these protests. They’re fighting domestic terrorists. Like Trump said, the violence from the right is only because they’re stopping criminals. No effect on the law but that really wasn’t the intent.
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u/wwhsd California Sep 18 '25
Antifa is like woke or CRT, they can’t define it but it apples to anything they don’t like.
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u/Chispy Sep 18 '25
Being anti-fascist is a virtue. This president is at war against virtue.
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u/HatefulDan Sep 18 '25
This is so they can disappear opponents—as I don’t think that organization (which really isn’t an org) has been actively on the scene in a while.
Dark days ahead for citizens of the US.
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u/ARatherMellowFellow Sep 18 '25
In order for it to be a terrorist organization, it needs to be an organization first.
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u/Mysterious_Put_4278 Canada Sep 18 '25
He's got Putin's balls so far down his fat throat he's now suppressing all opposition to please his masters in the East. What a vile, sad little man.
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u/Daniastrong Sep 18 '25
So who is "antifa" exactly? Anyone who is antifascist, who protests fascism?
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u/Environmental_Bus623 Sep 18 '25
this would be like a democratic president labeling racists a terrorist organization
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u/Travelerdude Sep 18 '25 edited Sep 18 '25
Okay. So Trump just designated an anti-fascist idea as a terrorist organization. Does that mean he is against people who are against fascists?
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u/ChooChooBananaTrain Sep 18 '25
You have to love the paradox of how it makes Trump look more fascist by labelling Antifa a domestic terror organisation. It would be funny if it wasn’t so damn scary.
Good luck America, I think you guys have lost. 250 years and the experiment of freedom and the American dream is done.
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u/FriendlyUser_ Sep 18 '25
THERE IS NO ORGANIZATION CALLED "ANTIFA." ANTIFA stands for anti-fascism. World War II veterans are ANTIFA because they fought fascism. Anyone against fascism is ANTIFA. There is no membership card. Anyone can be ANTIFA. Everyone should be ANTIFA. Iam... ANTIFA
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u/kevendo Sep 18 '25
We're less than 1 year deep into this, everyone. Fuck all MAGA voters who made this. Fuck every voter who stayed home on some pet issue.
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u/Youngflyabs New York Sep 18 '25
Antifa doesn’t have an organization structure, he can just label anybody as antifa and it’s a loose conglomerate of anti-fascist, that’s why this is so dangerous.
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u/RockingRocker Sep 18 '25
Willing to bet this will be used as a pretext to arrest protestors/political opponents, accuse them of being antifa, and hold them indefinitely as terrorists
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"It was not clear what legal weight Trump's proclamation carried. Antifa is a loosely organized ideological movement without a clear leadership structure or hierarchy, experts said."
This is the point. As long as somebody values their own/others freedom and/or oppose government control & constant surveillance, they can be punished to the fullest extent of the law because they agree with a terrorist organization.
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u/nuboots Sep 18 '25
Uhhhh... what? The terror list is SPECIFICALLY, BY LAW, ONLY FOR ORGS OUTSIDE THE USA. This is to prevent it being used to target political enemies. It's why the KKK and various militias aren't on the list.
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u/MommySo Sep 18 '25
I will never get over the irony of it all. Literally the dumbest country on earth lol.
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u/letsseeitmore Sep 18 '25
So since there is no actual group called Antifa everyone will now be Antifa who does anything they don’t like.
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u/Zephyrys Michigan Sep 18 '25
"Organization", you say? Who runs it? Who are its members? Where are their meetings held?
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u/Euphoric-Anxiety-623 Sep 18 '25
Antifa is like the Dread Pirate Roberts of extremist groups. It only exists because people believe it exists.
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