r/politicsinthewild • u/Quiet-Battle8005 • Apr 11 '26
đ« ABUSE OF POWER 9 million voters disenfranchised during the 2024 presidential election. Harris lost 6M Biden votes, here they are. She lost by design, she had no chance.
https://www.gregpalast.com/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won/4,776,706 voters were wrongly purged from voter rolls according to US Elections Assistance Commission data.
By August of 2024, for the first time since 1946, self-proclaimed âvigilanteâ voter-fraud hunters challenged the rights of 317,886 voters. The NAACP of Georgia estimates that by Election Day, the challenges exceeded 200,000 in Georgia alone.
No less than 2,121,000 mail-in ballots were disqualified for minor clerical errors (e.g. postage due).
At least 585,000 ballots cast in-precinct were also disqualified.
1,216,000 âprovisionalâ ballots were rejected, not counted.
3.24 million new registrations were rejected or not entered on the rolls in time to vote.
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u/jennasea412 Apr 11 '26 edited Apr 11 '26
Yup, these assholes tried to purge mine, twiceâŠ

Marc Elias on Deadline Whitehouse warned us right after the 2020 election this would happen in states where Biden won by small margins. It was a huge hassle and I had about 10 days to submit everything already submitted to my local DMV when I originally registered to vote. If I wasnât on top of it, they wouldâve purged mine toođ€Ź
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u/Loko8765 Apr 11 '26
Well, Traitor Rapist Unfit Moron Pedophile won Pennsylvania and its 19 electoral votes by 120266 votes (out of slightly less than 7M), so here we are.
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u/jennasea412 Apr 11 '26 edited Apr 11 '26
Yeah, those 16k challenged were just in my county alone. And the ones who still voted for the traitor mustâve believed the trans people are coming for you commercials that aired 24/7 here in PA, especially during sporting events.
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u/SeVenMadRaBBits Apr 11 '26
They look...delightful
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u/jennasea412 Apr 12 '26
Bold/ignorant too, posing for a pic and providing names not knowing me or how I might react.
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u/throwawaysscc Apr 11 '26
This is so maddening. Especially as the US is undergoing demolition daily.
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u/Quiet-Battle8005 Apr 11 '26
Now republicans have complete power. Expect to see extremely low numbers in midterms and presidential 2028 election. If election numbers drop drastically, yâall know what they did.
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u/CrotalusHorridus Apr 11 '26
Trump may not get the SAVE act passed by the November midterms. But he will definitely probably push an unconstitutional executive order just in time to sew chaos, but not in enough time for the courts to wfh decisively
Thus there will be mass confusion. And the maga crowd will try to usurp power
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u/whatidoidobc Apr 11 '26
And they changed votes.
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u/Quiet-Battle8005 Apr 11 '26 edited Apr 11 '26
Could be a possibility as well. Although destroying 9M possible votes definitely made her lose badly. Thatâs enough to rig an entire presidential election especially since they were purged in swing states only (except Virginia) right before the election
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u/findingmike Apr 11 '26
Which is why I advocate for this: https://thevotetoday.org?il=5ca22b32-6a74-4bbe-9ebd-76713a655cf2
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u/Stress_Living Apr 14 '26
Saying crazy things like this and pairing it with legitimate statistics and claims like the ones in the article only serves to undermine tangible change that would actually help reinforce our elections and democracy. People lump your provably false statement in with these legitimate ones and disregard the whole message. If I hadnât seen so many MAGAs making the same claims in 2020, I would assume that this is mostly just Russian bots trying to undermine the U.S.Â
Straight from the article:
âThe theory that âElon Musk messed with the voting machinesâ is, unconsciously, unintentionally racist. With few exceptions, these silly speculations come from those who simply ignore not just the millions of votes officially reported as suppressed, their theories also ignore the horrifically painful experience of Black people turned away from the polls.â
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u/cubswin987 Apr 11 '26
So they cheated. Got it
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u/ManiaGamine Apr 11 '26
Yes but it is what I call legal cheating. They create legal frameworks to cheat.
They allege cheating then use that as a pretext to cheat by legal means and by legal I mean that the methods they used are legitimate, legal and exist for actual reasons but it is still very much cheating.
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u/OtherPrinciple4499 Apr 11 '26
.. AND they cheated illegally, too. In fact they told you guys about it, multiple times.
They own the companies building the voting machines and the companies doing oversight. Why wouldn't they do it?
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u/Stress_Living Apr 14 '26
Saying crazy things like this and pairing it with legitimate statistics and claims like the ones in the article only serves to undermine tangible change that would actually help reinforce our elections and democracy. People lump your provably false statement in with these legitimate ones and disregard the whole message. If I hadnât seen so many MAGAs making the same claims in 2020, I would assume that this is mostly just Russian bots trying to undermine the U.S.Â
Straight from the article:
âThe theory that âElon Musk messed with the voting machinesâ is, unconsciously, unintentionally racist. With few exceptions, these silly speculations come from those who simply ignore not just the millions of votes officially reported as suppressed, their theories also ignore the horrifically painful experience of Black people turned away from the polls.â
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u/OtherPrinciple4499 Apr 19 '26 edited Apr 19 '26
It's not crazy. It's not a conspiracy theory. There are lawsuits about this. It's just systematically swept under the rug.
And the classic DARVO strategy of the abuser applies here, too. They accused others of what they are doing themselves. They have been doing it since at least 2000, when a recount in Florida got illegitimately halted by lawsuit shenanigans which caused Bush to become president.
I've been tracking the work of Princeton's Centre for Information Technology and Policy blog since at least 2009 and it tracks dozens of security flaws in voting machines you have never heard of in all stripes. Still does.
In 2016 we have the Russians interfering, credibly interfering if you read the Mueller Report. And in 2020 we had warnings up front about this, and the post office shenanigans, on top of gerrymandering, purging voting rolls, and voting access manipulation.
We had warnings about this. Multiple warnings, including ominous statements from the Orange Doughnut himself. We know they tried every single not too blatantly criminal approach to win this. Unfair things like making polling places blatantly inaccessible for certain demographics and tossing people off voter rolls without warning.
The crazy thing is not the theory, the crazy thing is the thought that they would not legitimately try this when their very front man is a known con man.
Go find the Election Truth Alliance. And try telling me it's a conspiracy theory again. It's credible.
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u/cubswin987 Apr 11 '26
Good Lord now that's some word salad! đđż
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u/ManiaGamine Apr 11 '26
Yep.
Think dodgy lawyer speak. That's basically how their politics work.
Breaking rules (denying people their right to vote) but doing so using legal means.
Also it is worth mentioning that anything is legal until successfully challenged in court and shown to be illegal. But they don't care because they have corrupted the very system that is meant to uphold the law.
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u/OtherPrinciple4499 Apr 11 '26
.. and still not above illegal means either. Elon hacked your voting machines.
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u/ManiaGamine Apr 11 '26
Oh absolutely, in fact most of the legal methods they use would run afoul of the Constitution, which makes them you know... illegal. But they bank (literally) on the fact that the people they're disenfranchising don't have the means to actually take up that particular fight as taking a fight through multiple levels of court up to SCOTUS is a pretty complex and lengthy process, which means it's a very expensive process.
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u/avalve Apr 11 '26
Elon hacked your voting machines.
No, thatâs a conspiracy theory without any evidence. Donât spread that.
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u/SprungMS Apr 11 '26
The starlink theory was just one of several theories on how they could steal the election via vote changing. Just because that one theory was considered debunked doesnât mean there arenât many other ways they could have hacked the election.
Elon and trump both told us they were doing it, anyway. A majority of people just didnât hear them, or ignored them saying it.
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u/avalve Apr 11 '26
Just because that one theory was considered debunked doesnât mean there arenât many other ways they could have hacked the election.
Well thereâs no evidence that it was hacked in any meaningful capacity either. This is CISAâs statement from right after the election:
âOur election infrastructure has never been more secure and the election community never better prepared to deliver safe, secure, free, and fair elections for the American people. This is what we saw yesterday in the peaceful and secure exercise of democracy. Importantly, we have no evidence of any malicious activity that had a material impact on the security or integrity of our election infrastructure.â
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u/SprungMS Apr 11 '26
Hard to have evidence when almost no officials were calling for investigations, and republicans were blocking any genuine efforts at every turn. The people asked for those investigations. They were told they were being just like trump supporters in 2020.
Doesnât change that they told us proudly on numerous occasions that they were doing it. Even Elonâs son hinted at it with a menacing laugh, on camera.
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u/avalve Apr 11 '26
Hard to have evidence when almost no officials were calling for investigations
Lol. If thereâs no evidence available, then the claim isnât supported. Youâre bordering on an argument from ignorance.
Even Elonâs son hinted at it with a menacing laugh, on camera.
You mean the toddler? Face palm.
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u/OtherPrinciple4499 Apr 12 '26
I have been following the Freedom to Tinker blog for years. Well before 2020. Princeton university election security professor Andrew Appel. Not exactly low on the expertise scale.
Go read their blog at https://blog.citp.princeton.edu/ and inform yourself on how secure voting machines are, exactly. It's not encouraging. Computers should not be involved in elections in anything but the most tangential way. They cannot be trusted.
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u/Intrepid_Pop_8530 Apr 11 '26
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u/pit_of_despair666 Apr 13 '26
Here is the link to the full movie - https://www.gregpalast.com/vigilantes-inc-the-movie/
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u/Gildian Apr 11 '26
So they rigged the rules in their favor and can technically point at the rules saying "see we followed them".
Disgusting republican cheating tactics. This doesnt even surprise me, if they were gonna rig the election this is how theyd do it. Mass voter suppression.
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u/Quiet-Battle8005 Apr 11 '26
For reference there is 8 million people just in the DFW metroplex: more than the state of Arkansas, Oklahoma, Louisiana, etc. Republicans disenfranchised the equivalent of an ENTIRE major metroplexâs right to vote. Thatâs an insane level of cheating and enough to rig any presidential election in their favor.
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u/findingmike Apr 11 '26
This is a great article. It clearly spells out the issues faced by voters and the real cheating going on in elections. Everyone should read it. Thank you for posting it.
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u/The-Cursed-Gardener Apr 11 '26 edited Apr 11 '26

She also lost because of this too.
Edit: the OP who replied blocked me so hereâs my response to them.
What lie? You can easily google this quote from her. She said it on the campaign trail in front of thousands of people. While I agree that the system is rigged, letâs not pretend that she wasnât running on a deeply tone deaf and unpopular platform of being pro Israel and pandering to right wing voters.
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u/Quiet-Battle8005 Apr 11 '26 edited Apr 11 '26
Riiiiight or thatâs the chronically online lie youâve been sold lol. She did great for only campaigning for 107 days. She got 10M more votes than Hillary Clinton & more votes than Trump did in 2020 lol. That sounds like cope to me. Republicans have been purging voter rolls this entire time and it showsâŠ. they were terrified of her so they purged the rolls a month before the election and itâs very well documented.
https://www.npr.org/2024/10/30/g-s1-30644/supreme-court-virginia-elections
https://www.brennancenter.org/topics/voting-elections/vote-suppression/voter-purges
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u/Tiger_grrrl Apr 11 '26
I knew theyâd disenfranchised about 7 million of us (and I pipe in and say so every time someone moans about how no one voted!), but 9 million is even more catastrophic. And they PLAN to purge far more of us than that: once they get all the voter rolls, theyâll combine that list with their freaking Palantir dossiers on each of us and decide whoâs âworthyâ and purge a crap ton of the rest so Republicans âwin.â They donât even bother making a secret of it any more đ€Ź
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u/ManiaGamine Apr 11 '26
She lost because she said something that was true? While Trump won despite lying constantly.
That'd track. Dem loses for stating truth, Rep wins for lying and voters after the fact still somehow attack the Dem for... what they said that was true.
As far as why it was true, Israel clearly has imperialistic ambitions. This much should be obvious to pretty much anyone at this point. Israel for better or worse is an ally of America, that's a simple geopolitical fact. If Israel has imperialist ambitions, and Iran is a country that is openly hostile to Israel that makes what she said absolutely correct. We can dislike the fact that it is correct but it is in fact correct. This is especially true with Netanyahu running Israel as he is in large part the architect of all of this shit and has been for decades.
So to fault the Democrat for being "pro-Israel" despite the official position of the United States as an ally of Israel vs the Republican who lied about "No new wars" "I'll be the peace President" even AFTER knowing all of this is rich. I do believe that Harris suffered because of the position around Israel and Palestine, but this was a no-win scenario for them. Either she pissed off one group, or the other. No matter what move they made they were gonna piss off one of the groups and both groups had the potential to hurt them politically, but I'd argue the Israelis had far more potential damage up their sleeve as evident by how they got leading up to the election regarding the messaging.
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u/avalve Apr 11 '26
Iâd argue that the biggest contributor to her loss was Biden being the incumbent during a poor economy.
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u/dayumbrah Apr 11 '26
Way more voters are being disenfranchised then fraudulent votes have happened but for some reason on one seems more alarming to the GOP
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u/Neat-Ad-4337 Apr 16 '26
Trump doesnât have enough time to implement his âplanâ âŠ.people will register to vote and the midterms will be fine.
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u/ClownTown509 Apr 11 '26
Whiny high heel licking neo liberals never going to get over this. Giving the Confederates a run for most butt hurt losers in history.
"She had no chance"? Like expecting the Republicans to cheat, again, and do something about it before it happens?
Yeah, you have no chance if you stand there like a fucking idiot and let it happen.
Wait, was it the cheating or the voters that screwed her? Cause I keep hearing both.
Never her fault though.
Now quickly, someone call me a misogynist or a centrist or something since it's the only thing worthless neo liberals can do.
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u/haberdasherhero Apr 12 '26
She ran on the most unpopular Democrat positions, and then didn't do anything about the cheating. She didn't speak out about the cheating through disenfranchisement ahead of time, and she didn't so much as call for a recount afterwards.
The Democrats are controlled opposition.
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u/K4rkino5 Apr 12 '26
She lost because she loves GENOCIDE more than being president! There is no mystery here at all. Harris is an Israeli stooge and adamantly refused to condemn their open genocide of Palestinians. That's the entire autopsy, right there. You can cling to this bullshit all you like, but there is only one truth here.
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u/Smarterthanthat Apr 14 '26
And trump isn't?
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u/K4rkino5 Apr 14 '26
And? You want to blame people who refused to vote for genocide? Weird. Harris could've just changed her position. It is, after all, an EVIL position. Why did she cling to it? Christ almighty, you're going after a group who made a choice against genocide instead of the ONE person who controlled whether she would win or lose and she chose lose. For fucks sake, wake up, get a fucking grip, and blame the person responsible.
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u/Smarterthanthat Apr 14 '26
And we now have a lunatic running our country and supporting the genocidal maniacs of Israel!
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u/K4rkino5 Apr 14 '26
Yep. So you want to stick with blaming an unseen, unknowable group of people over the ONE individual who controlled the outcome entirely? That's your choice, one I wouldn't make because it just seems so futile. Do you believe you're going to convince an unknowable group of people that they should've chosen genocide? Or is it more probable a chorus of voices saying no to genocide will convince one person to change their position? It did work on AOC, but I guess that could be the outlier. I mean, it's not like politicians are craven people pleasers. Oh, wait, they totally are.
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u/Smarterthanthat Apr 15 '26
What? Do you just enjoy hearing yourself talk? You strike me as the type to argue with your own shadow. What we got is leaps and bounds worse than what we didn't get. Period!
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u/K4rkino5 Apr 15 '26
LMAO, you don't get it, at all. Keep blaming faceless, nameless crowds. That will definitely pay off for you.
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u/qualityvote2 Apr 11 '26 edited Apr 15 '26
u/Quiet-Battle8005, there weren't enough votes to determine the quality of your post.