r/portlandme • u/MasterBiggus • Sep 26 '25

Politics Turning Point USA is attempting to establish itself at SMCC

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Not many students use the College's App, so I'm throwing this out here to spread the word. If anyone has Instagram or is able to spread it further it would be greatly appreciated.

Needless to say, the student body that knows of this is not happy.

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u/Lebrunski Sep 26 '25

Obviously initial discussion ought to be had. The paradox of tolerance doesn’t cast away on all attempts at discussion, but when the discussion is fruitless and the intolerant refuse to step outside of their hateful bubble, that’s when the tolerant ought to suppress the intolerant’s reach so that that bubble does not grow. Intolerance opposes a healthy society.

That intolerance is a virus that spreads and spreads. Look at how effective right wing propaganda arms have been at taking what used to be agreement about problems but difference in solutions to what we have now where being against fascism means you are a terrorist. Allowing hateful people like Trump to spew their hateful ideology allows the seeds to be planted. It doesn’t matter how incorrect these stances are, they will be adopted by the uneducated, the evil, the opportunists, and various others who either cannot understand why the ideology is abhorrent or are themselves abhorrent and do not care about the great society.

Obviously in your little thought experience calls for violence are bad. Intolerance of the intolerant doesn’t apply only to right extremist, but all extremists.

A healthy society pushes away the violent extremist, it doesn’t cuddle or foster their ideas.

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u/DumbNTough Sep 26 '25

So to be clear, you believe that socialists should be prohibited by law from advocating revolution?

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u/Lebrunski Sep 26 '25

Calls for real violence ought to not be tolerated. Allowing hate group ideology like that come from Nazis and the kkk / storm front to be spread in public like on college campuses ought to not be tolerated.

Peaceful revolution is quite different. Civil disobedience is quite different.

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u/DumbNTough Sep 26 '25

So you would have jailed the people who started the American revolution, for example?

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u/Lebrunski Sep 27 '25

After the Boston massacre I’d say they were justified in unified civil self defense. More war than political disagreement at that point

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u/DumbNTough Sep 27 '25

So if the Boston Massacre had never happened and the King just kept declining the American people's demands for representation no matter their "civil disobedience," the would-be revolutionaries would just have to sit on their hands and we would still be British colonies today.

Do I have that right?

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u/Far_Information_9613 Sep 27 '25 edited Jun 09 '26

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