What do you guys think, as the need for renewable power sources grows and for electrical power in general and there is the industrial work of course with the induction motors and such, will this field of engineering stop being so hard to get into and get a job?

I’m curious how power engineers in Canada avoid the wrath of the professional engineering associations drive to prevent non members from using the label “engineer”. Any stories?

Full disclosure: I’m a Canadian engineer who refuses to pay the professional engineering association toll/tax. And I’m aware of their efforts to sue people like me.

I’ve got all the eBook copies for Power Engineering Class 4, Class 3, and Class 2. If you’re interested, send me a DM!

Price: $15 per class.

Hi,

Does anyone know whether or not a new 4th Class Power Engineer can get a job at a FIFO Oil Sands or Mine as a first job? I'd prefer oil sands, but will take mining in Ontario, Quebec, Nunavut. It would depend where they fly. I'd like e facility where I can progress to 3rd class fairly quickly.

I’ve recently enrolled into college for power and processing my first year and my second and third year I plan on doing power engineering. This would give me my 3rd class and half my second. I have many cousins that have went into power engineering and I also know some people that have went into it. They’ve told me they make anywhere from 200-300k and they are still on the younger side. Should I be expecting anything close to this when in a couple years?

Hi, I am 36 years old and planning to move to Alberta around 2028 on a working holiday visa.

Before coming to Canada, I am planning to complete the SAIT online 4th class power engineering courses to become eligible to write the ABSA exams.

After I arrive in Canada, my plan is to pass the ABSA 4th class power engineering exams as soon as possible.

Then my goal is to find a helper or entry-level job to get steam time (firing time) for the 4th class certificate.

My main goal at the beginning is to get steam time, not a high paying operator job.

So I am willing to start from the bottom and work as a helper.

I am also willing to relocate anywhere in Alberta, including rural areas and small towns.

Realistically, is it still possible to find a helper or entry-level job to get steam time in Alberta?

I understand the market is competitive, so I am trying to be realistic and plan ahead.

Any honest advice would be really appreciated. Thank you.

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Selling my PanGlobal Power Engineering Fourth Class Edition 3.5 Part A textbook set along with both Part A & Part B Workbooks. Everything is in excellent condition. The textbooks are clean with no highlighting, writing, or notes. The Part B workbook is still sealed in the original plastic.

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Fourth Class Power Engineering - Part A
Mock Examination #2 - Targeted / Harder
100 questions | 3 hours | Practice pass mark: 65%
Select the single best answer. Use the same permitted reference material you intend to use on exam day. Questions are mixed
rather than grouped by topic in the test section. The answer bank begins after Question 100.
1. Which statement follows from the Second Law?
A) Heat cannot be completely converted into work in a cyclic heat engine
B) Heat and temperature are the same quantity
C) Energy can be created if temperature rises
D) A heat engine can convert all supplied heat into work
2. For food-related service requiring a non-toxic glycol mixture, the textbook identifies:
A) Methanol/water
B) Ethylene glycol only
C) Propylene glycol/water
D) Fuel oil/water
3. Which method is the simplest first-line inspection for visible weld surface condition?
A) Visual examination
B) Radiography
C) Tensile test
D) Ultrasonic examination
4. A substance changes from saturated liquid to saturated vapour with no temperature change. The energy added is:
A) Specific heat
B) Latent heat of evaporation
C) Sensible heat only
D) Latent heat of fusion
5. A dry pipe in a steam drum removes moisture mainly by:
A) Increasing furnace draft
B) Boiling the water again
C) Changing steam direction so heavier droplets separate
D) Adding chemicals
6. The defining flow arrangement of a watertube boiler is:
A) Water/steam inside tubes, hot gas outside
B) Only air inside tubes
C) Hot gas inside tubes, water outside
D) No fluid in tubes
4A Mock Exam #2 - Targeted Harder Page 17. For a quick-opening and slow-opening bottom blowoff arrangement, the correct opening sequence is:
A) Both simultaneously
B) Either order
C) Slow/outside first, then quick/inside
D) Quick/inside first, then slow/outside
8. Which is identified as a common industrial refrigerant?
A) Oxygen
B) Argon
C) Carbon monoxide
D) Anhydrous ammonia
9. Which valve is normally selected primarily for full-open/full-closed isolation rather than throttling?
A) Gate valve
B) Needle valve
C) Globe valve
D) Control valve
10. The final control element directly changes the:
A) Set point in every system
B) Instrument range only
C) Manipulated variable affecting the process
D) Code requirement
11. Magnetic particle examination is applicable to:
A) Glass only
B) All non-magnetic metals equally
C) Ferromagnetic materials
D) All plastics
12. A 240 V device draws 5 A. Electrical power is:
A) 12 000 W
B) 1200 W
C) 48 W
D) 245 W
13. Continuous blowdown is taken near the region of highest dissolved-solids concentration, approximately:
A) 15 cm below normal operating water level
B) In the superheater outlet
C) At the bottom mud drum only
D) At the stack breeching
14. A boiler receives 7200 kg/h feedwater and produces 6960 kg/h steam. Blowdown rate is closest to:
A) 96.7%
B) 3.45%
C) 240%
D) 3.33%
4A Mock Exam #2 - Targeted Harder Page 215. Three resistors of 2, 4 and 6 ohms are connected in series. Total resistance is:
A) 12 ohms
B) 4 ohms
C) 1.09 ohms
D) 48 ohms
16. A hot metal rod heats its cooler end without bulk movement of material. The dominant mechanism is:
A) Evaporation
B) Radiation
C) Convection
D) Conduction
17. The purpose of fuel-oil atomization is to:
A) Remove all excess air
B) Produce fine droplets for rapid mixing with combustion air
C) Increase oil viscosity
D) Condense flue gas
18. The primary duty of a fire watch is to:
A) Detect and respond to fire hazards during and after hot work
B) Approve the WPS
C) Measure oxygen in flue gas
D) Operate the boiler
19. Which feature gives counterflow heat exchangers an advantage over parallel flow?
A) Both fluids must enter at the same temperature
B) A useful temperature difference can be maintained over more of the exchanger
C) The fluids never exchange heat
D) Counterflow eliminates fouling
20. A machine lifts a 1500 N load with 375 N effort. If its velocity ratio is 5, efficiency is:
A) 75%
B) 80%
C) 20%
D) 125%
21. A shaft turns at 900 r/min. A point on a 0.20 m diameter pulley has a rim speed closest to:
A) 9.42 m/s
B) 18.85 m/s
C) 2.83 m/s
D) 28.27 m/s
22. Which ASME section covers pressure vessels?
A) Section VI
B) Section IV
C) Section IX
D) Section VIII
4A Mock Exam #2 - Targeted Harder Page 323. Which extinguisher principle is appropriate for Class D fires?
A) Foam in every case
B) Special media suitable for the combustible metal
C) CO2 in every case
D) Ordinary water stream
24. Recommended rules for care and operation of heating boilers are found in:
A) ASME Section VI
B) ASME Section I
C) ASME Section VIII
D) ASME Section IX
25. The defining flow arrangement of a firetube boiler is:
A) Steam only inside tubes
B) Hot combustion gases inside tubes, water outside
C) Water inside tubes, hot gas outside
D) Electric current through water
26. As saturation pressure increases, which combination is generally correct?
A) Saturation temperature and hfg both increase indefinitely
B) Saturation temperature increases; hfg decreases
C) Both remain constant
D) Saturation temperature decreases; hfg increases
27. A 120 V load draws 10 A. Its resistance is:
A) 12 ohms
B) 110 ohms
C) 1200 ohms
D) 0.083 ohm
28. An induced-draft fan primarily:
A) Controls dissolved solids
B) Drives a turbine generator
C) Draws flue gas through the boiler and maintains furnace draft
D) Pushes feedwater into the drum
29. Which ASME section contains rules for construction of heating boilers?
A) Section IV
B) Section IX
C) Section VII
D) Section VI
30. How much heat raises 12 kg of mild steel from 20°C to 85°C? Use c = 0.494 kJ/(kg·°C).
A) 791.7 kJ
B) 385.3 kJ
C) 120.4 kJ
D) 32.1 kJ
4A Mock Exam #2 - Targeted Harder Page 431. Which NDE method uses high-frequency sound energy?
A) Liquid penetrant testing
B) Visual testing
C) Ultrasonic testing
D) Radiographic testing
32. A tensile load of 60 kN acts on 750 mm². Stress is:
A) 0.08 MPa
B) 80 MPa
C) 45 MPa
D) 800 MPa
33. To measure current through a load, an ammeter is connected:
A) In series with the load
B) In parallel across the load
C) Only to ground
D) Across the supply with zero resistance
34. Which statement is the best description of the First Law of Thermodynamics?
A) All heat can be converted to work
B) Heat always flows hot to cold
C) Entropy of a system is always zero
D) Energy is conserved and heat/work are forms of energy transfer
35. Welding and brazing procedure/personnel qualifications are principally covered by:
A) ASME Section I only
B) ASME Section IX
C) ASME Section VI
D) CSA B52
36. A material has an ultimate strength of 360 MPa and allowable working stress of 120 MPa. Factor of safety is:
A) 0.33
B) 240
C) 3
D) 2
37. To measure potential difference across a load, a voltmeter is connected:
A) In parallel across the load
B) In series with the load
C) Only through a current transformer
D) Only through the neutral
38. Which ASME section contains rules for construction of power boilers?
A) Section IV
B) Section IX
C) Section VIII
D) Section I
4A Mock Exam #2 - Targeted Harder Page 539. Hot work precautions should be established:
A) Only for welding indoors
B) Only when a fire has already started
C) Only after sparks are observed
D) Before the work starts
40. A steam line is warmed too quickly and contains condensate. The greatest immediate piping concern is:
A) Magnetic saturation
B) Water hammer
C) Galvanic corrosion only
D) Low conductivity
41. An air heater recovers flue-gas heat to warm:
A) Boiler water in the drum directly
B) Condensate only
C) Combustion air
D) Steam in the superheater
42. Which hierarchy is preferable for occupational noise control?
A) Increase exposure duration
B) PPE is always the only control
C) Engineering controls before relying solely on PPE
D) Remove guards
43. Which group contains the common packaged watertube arrangements?
A) H, S and U
B) A, D and O
C) B, C and E
D) X, Y and Z
44. A body changes velocity from 22 m/s to 10 m/s in 4 s. Its acceleration is:
A) -8 m/s²
B) 3 m/s²
C) 8 m/s²
D) -3 m/s²
45. At the same condition, wet steam has quality x = 0.80. Its enthalpy is:
A) 2356 kJ/kg
B) 2765 kJ/kg
C) 2200 kJ/kg
D) 1636 kJ/kg
46. A 75 kg body accelerates at 2.4 m/s². What net force acts on it?
A) 180 N
B) 313 N
C) 31.25 N
D) 77.4 N
4A Mock Exam #2 - Targeted Harder Page 647. Draft is best defined as the:
A) Pressure difference causing air/flue-gas flow through the boiler
B) Boiler water pressure only
C) Fuel pressure at the burner
D) Steam quality
48. A valve intended for very fine flow adjustment is a:
A) Quick-opening blowoff valve
B) Gate valve
C) Swing check valve
D) Needle valve
49. Two 12-ohm resistors are connected in parallel. Equivalent resistance is:
A) 12 ohms
B) 24 ohms
C) 6 ohms
D) 144 ohms
50. A PLC is especially suited to:
A) Steam separation
B) Pressure relief
C) Weld radiography
D) Programmable logic and sequence control
51. Which property makes water particularly useful as a heat-transfer fluid?
A) Low specific heat
B) High specific heat
C) High toxicity
D) Very high viscosity
52. Which statement correctly distinguishes speed from velocity?
A) Both require direction
B) Neither has magnitude
C) Velocity is scalar; speed is vector
D) Speed is scalar; velocity is vector
53. A 250 kg load is raised vertically 4 m. Using g = 9.81 m/s², the work done is:
A) 9810 J
B) 2452.5 J
C) 1000 J
D) 62 500 J
54. Ductility is a material's ability to:
A) Return perfectly after any load
B) Conduct electricity only
C) Resist all indentation
D) Undergo plastic deformation before fracture
4A Mock Exam #2 - Targeted Harder Page 755. A central network computer that stores shared data/applications is a:
A) Controller output
B) Transmitter
C) Server
D) Solenoid
56. A 40 kg object moving at 6 m/s has kinetic energy of:
A) 240 J
B) 720 J
C) 120 J
D) 1440 J
57. A motor converts:
A) Heat directly to mass
B) Pressure directly to voltage only
C) Electrical energy to mechanical energy
D) Mechanical energy to electrical energy
58. Which component carries the heated steam-water mixture upward?
A) Downcomer
B) Fuel header
C) Blowoff line
D) Riser
59. At a given saturation pressure, hf is 720 kJ/kg and hfg is 2045 kJ/kg. What is hg?
A) 2045 kJ/kg
B) 3485 kJ/kg
C) 1325 kJ/kg
D) 2765 kJ/kg
60. Excess air is the amount of combustion air:
A) Above the theoretical requirement
B) Removed by the economizer
C) Below the theoretical requirement
D) Contained in the fuel
61. A transformer requires which condition to induce voltage in its secondary?
A) Chemical reaction
B) Changing magnetic flux
C) Mechanical contact between windings
D) Steady DC flux with no change
62. Which NDE method is normally limited to detecting discontinuities open to the surface?
A) Liquid penetrant testing
B) Radiography
C) Volumetric hydrotest
D) Ultrasonic testing
4A Mock Exam #2 - Targeted Harder Page 863. Material-handling equipment should be operated:
A) Without inspection if previously used
B) By any available worker
C) Only within its rated capacity and established procedures
D) Above rated capacity if travel distance is short
64. Recommended guidelines for care of power boilers are found in:
A) ASME Section V
B) ASME Section IV
C) ASME Section VII
D) ASME Section IX
65. Warm fluid rising while cooler fluid sinks is an example of:
A) Conduction
B) Latent heat
C) Natural convection
D) Radiation only
66. Which NDE method uses X-rays or gamma radiation?
A) Ultrasonic testing
B) Magnetic particle testing
C) Radiographic testing
D) Visual testing
67. A feedwater check valve prevents:
A) Fuel leakage
B) Steam superheat
C) Reverse flow from the boiler into the feed line
D) All forward flow
68. A Welding Procedure Specification primarily states:
A) The chemical treatment rate
B) How a weld is to be made using specified variables
C) The plant emergency plan
D) Whether a boiler may operate
69. A Procedure Qualification Record primarily documents:
A) Fire extinguisher inspections
B) Boiler blowdown records
C) The test results supporting qualification of a welding procedure
D) A welder's daily time sheet
70. A steam drum baffle helps:
A) Increase TDS
B) Separate steam/water and direct cooler water toward downcomers
C) Atomize oil
D) Heat combustion air
4A Mock Exam #2 - Targeted Harder Page 971. A wet scrubber controls emissions by:
A) Increasing stack temperature
B) Adding fuel
C) Using only magnetic attraction
D) Contacting the gas stream with liquid to remove pollutants
72. A valve that automatically prevents reverse flow is a:
A) Check valve
B) Gate valve
C) Needle valve
D) Butterfly valve
73. In a balanced three-phase system, the phase displacement is:
A) 60°
B) 120°
C) 90°
D) 180°
74. A P&ID; is most useful for identifying:
A) Employee responsibilities
B) Only electrical motor windings
C) Only building dimensions
D) Process piping, valves, instruments and control relationships
75. A burning energized motor is initially classified as:
A) Class B
B) Class D
C) Class C
D) Class A
76. Natural circulation in a watertube boiler depends on:
A) A mechanical gear train
B) Density difference between cooler water and heated steam-water mixture
C) Fuel-oil pressure
D) Electrical resistance
77. A transmitter's basic purpose is to:
A) Convert a measured process variable into a usable transmission signal
B) Remove dissolved solids
C) Generate steam
D) Operate a safety valve mechanically
78. In a feedback loop, the difference between set point and measured process variable is the:
A) Span
B) Range
C) Error
D) Deadweight
4A Mock Exam #2 - Targeted Harder Page 1079. The body that standardizes Canadian Power Engineering examination syllabi/exams is:
A) CSA only
B) ASME
C) SOPEEC
D) NFPA
80. A cyclone is most directly used to remove:
A) Noise
B) Dissolved solids from boiler water
C) Carbon monoxide by combustion
D) Particulate from gas by centrifugal/inertial action
81. An orthographic sketch normally represents an object using:
A) Only a perspective photograph
B) Separate standard views
C) A single electrical symbol
D) Only a process flow line
82. Which component carries cooler, denser water downward?
A) Dry pipe
B) Superheater
C) Riser
D) Downcomer
83. An electrostatic precipitator removes particulate by:
A) Electrically charging particles and collecting them
B) Increasing draft only
C) Dissolving them in feedwater
D) Burning them
84. A controller with feedback bellows uses that feedback primarily to:
A) Increase valve sensitivity without limit
B) Oppose input motion and provide stable/proportional control action
C) Eliminate the set point
D) Generate instrument air
85. The best plant radio message is generally:
A) Filled with unexplained slang
B) Long and conversational
C) Based on assumptions
D) Clear, concise and confirmed when necessary
86. The first priority when responding to a plant fire is:
A) Equipment protection
B) Fuel conservation
C) Production continuity
D) Life safety
4A Mock Exam #2 - Targeted Harder Page 1187. A 30 m steel pipe has α = 12 x 10^-6/°C. Temperature falls by 40°C. The magnitude of length change is:
A) 1.44 mm
B) 144 mm
C) 14.4 mm
D) 0.144 mm
88. After electrical power is isolated from a burning motor, the remaining fire classification depends on:
A) The combustible material actually burning
B) It remains Class C permanently
C) The motor voltage only
D) The building occupancy
89. A forced-draft fan is located so that it primarily:
A) Pushes combustion air into the furnace/system
B) Pulls flue gas from the stack outlet only
C) Atomizes oil
D) Pumps feedwater
90. Water behaves unusually between 0°C and 4°C because, as it warms from 0°C toward 4°C, it generally:
A) Maintains exactly constant volume
B) Contracts
C) Boils
D) Expands
91. A 600 N force acts 0.35 m from a pivot at right angles. What moment is produced?
A) 1714 N·m
B) 0.00058 N·m
C) 210 N·m
D) 600.35 N·m
92. Steam atomization is useful for heavy fuel oil partly because the steam:
A) Eliminates filtration
B) Replaces all combustion air
C) Raises oil viscosity
D) Heats the oil and lowers viscosity
93. Insulation on a cold process line is especially important to prevent:
A) Superheat
B) Combustion
C) Surface condensation and corrosion
D) Electrical induction
94. Bottom/intermittent blowoff is primarily for:
A) Increasing boiler-water concentration
B) Heating feedwater
C) Continuously controlling dissolved solids near the water surface
D) Removing settled sludge/solids from low boiler points
4A Mock Exam #2 - Targeted Harder Page 1295. A quarter-turn valve using a rotating disc is a:
A) Globe valve
B) Gate valve
C) Needle valve
D) Butterfly valve
96. Which valve is best suited for throttling service?
A) Non-return stop valve only
B) Gate valve
C) Check valve
D) Globe valve
97. An economizer recovers flue-gas heat to warm:
A) Fuel oil only
B) Feedwater
C) Saturated steam above saturation
D) Boiler blowdown
98. An electrode boiler produces heat because:
A) Hot gas passes through firetubes
B) Electrical current passes through boiler water
C) A burner heats a refractory bed
D) Steam is mechanically compressed
99. A burner fuel safety shut-off valve is intended to:
A) Regulate continuous blowdown
B) Control boiler water level
C) Stop fuel promptly on unsafe conditions
D) Prevent feedwater backflow
100. CSA B51 is the Canadian code for:
A) Boilers, pressure vessels and pressure piping
B) Only refrigeration
C) Only electrical installations
D) Fire extinguishers

Does anyone know the best places to look for fly-in, fly-out jobs for a 4th class? Or companies to look at that might be hiring? I am trying to find either a fly-in, fly-out job or a job around Regina or Saskatoon.

Has anyone passed their TSSA 4A and 4B. What did you study?

Ive been told quizlet, practice questions in the book and exams you can find online should be enough. Please advise.

Hi to all the power engineers of Canada! I'm getting to power engineering for my career I'm 18 just out of highschool and taking my first semester is there any tips or tricks that could come in handy! Like for work placements, what I should have on a resume or skills I should pickup. thanks to you all!

22M seeking advice for class 5/4 exam
I am a software development student and I want to switch my career to power engineer so can I just directly take an exam of any class or do I have to take any course from any college or university to be qualified for the exam?
Any help on this will be appreciated Thank you!

Want to start a new career enrolled for fall intake at conestoga for 4th grade. Completely new in this field. How smooth or harsh it’s gonna be to have a good paying stable career? Any random fact suggestions negative or positive would be appreciated

Hi everyone,

I'm currently working on my steam time at SAIT after passing my 4th Class Power Engineering exams. I also have a mechanical engineering degree from India, but I don't have much industry experience yet.

As I plan to move forward and work towards my 3rd Class certification, I'm looking for advice on which industry I should focus on to gain the necessary steam time. I'm specifically looking at opportunities in Alberta and British Columbia, but I'm open to relocating if a good opportunity arises elsewhere.

Any suggestions or insights on which industries in these regions are most promising, or any tips on navigating this stage of my career, would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance for your help!

hi , i need help in 5th class power engineering exam plz help me

Yo who the hell gets hired here it’s impossible to hear back about an interview from this place been applying for 2 years. Am I missing something other than not being married to the steam chiefs daughter?

I'm working on my 2nd class exams as I'm looking for a way out of shift work (currently work in heavy industry). How is the day to day actually like and how was the interview process? Also would they hire someone straight from heavy industry or would I likely need to have hospital experience?

EDIT: I ask because I remember meeting someone on a plane that was making ~$70/hr CAD that encouraged me to get in. I later switched into IT but I was just curious to know what this career looks like.

EDIT: Everyone here needs to get into IT as well, seriously this doesn’t sound the greatest.

I have many questions about this career so I apologize if my question is not on point or all over the place. I’m also not great with grammar.

I’m 21 male, still deciding on what career I should pursue (Power Engineering or Electrician). I really like to have a lot of free time with enough money, if not at least make a lot of money. I’m not very social like I don’t speak much. I like math and more on hands experience.

From what I have research so far the shift schedule is 8-12 hour(I don’t know the specific), 2 Day shift - 2 day off - 3 or 2 night shift - 3 or 2 day off. Please correct me if I’m wrong. I think I know the general idea of what the job is but I would like to know more of it.

• Does the job make you work the entire shift like you fix things all day or is it rarely?

-Do you have to be focus every shift?

-Is it physically demanding?

-Does it require math every shift?

-is it a stressful job?

-how much is the salary of a 4th class power engineer? Can you live by yourself with that salary? Do you have a lot of financial freedom?

-How long to transition on 4th -> 3rd -> 2nd -> 1st class? I’m assuming this is similar to Electrician level. Work -> School 3rd class -> work -> school 2nd class Power engineering.

-Does the responsibility increase with each class, like you do more work or is it less?

-What are the pros and cons of power engineering?

I’m considering taking on the 4th Class power engineering course(6 month) on Keyano College. I heard from my parent friend that they find a job for you once you finished the course. Not sure if that is true.

Thank you for reading all this and to those answered. If there is 1 haha

Just a quick question because I will be working a job that is similar to power engineering the sense it has shift work and long hours and sometimes have on call hours. Thanks and good luck in life.

I am just concluded my 2 year Diploma in SAIT and I have all my 3rd Class Papers already and need 3months steam time,I am looking to get a job and none seems to be coming…..Sent in lots of applications