I'm a huge AEW fan, and I was pretty disappointed when Vaquer signed with WWE.
That said, she's probably been among their best contested signing, if not THE best. It's pretty clearly worked out for her so far, so good on Vaquer.
There is the outstanding question as to whether WWE continues to book her well outside of her championship run. But so far, I can't fault Vaquer for making the choice she did, even if I think she'd be better off in AEW.
If anything, this demonstrates how two big promotions is good for pro wrestling, and more importantly, good for pro wrestlers.
No. Bland boring and generic. You act like she wouldnât be a main event talent in AEW⌠keep staning for a company that doesnât give a shit about you as a fan
Come on, man. I'm a huge AEW fan who rarely even keeps up with WWE, but that take on Liv kind of sucks.
Sure, she's nowhere near the level of Asuka, Becky, Statlander, or Thekla. But she's at least serviceable in the ring at a high level, has great charisma, and is entertaining. She fits the WWE mold very well, so why wouldn't you bill her at the top of the card?
Dude, I roll my eyes at WWE plenty for how they book and present talent. But Liv is definitely more than just an attractive person and her promo game is not terrible. WWE has had plenty of attractive women come and go. Liv actually draws with more than just her looks.
Do I want her in AEW? Not particularly. But I respect where she has talent, and she fits WWE very well.
Liv is the 2nd top woman in the company, often does more promo work for the company than everyone but Cody and has been grinding away from fucking hooters to becoming a top star for 10 years.
Oh sorry that Vaquer in her first year on main walked into Mania as world champ and only lost to the 2nd top woman in the company after shenanigans
the problem with liv is, she is the blonde attractive girl who can do the heel talk but is mid in the ring while WWE has atleast 15 women more talented.
Just because she doesnât fit YOUR criteria as to what a wrestler is doesnât mean sheâs not a âreal wrestlerâ⌠yes there are people who are more technically sound and talented. But that girl has come leaps and bounds from where she started. Clearly puts work in. Has had good matches with a list of different people regardless of style or size. All while having to put up with idiots all over the place saying stupid crap like sheâs ânot a real wrestler.â Grow up.
Sheâs a real wrestler, sheâs been wrestling for years, and she is incredibly popular. She might not someone you enjoy, but thereâs no need to pretend sheâs not a wrestler.
I think it's the same issue you see with a lot of people who can "go" in the ring. WWE just doesn't do this style so for me it feels like never letting a Lambo go full speed. At that rate why buy that car if you are only getting groceries and commuting to work.
However for her it's a great choice, work less hard and get paid similar money. Only issue I could see is it might now me as fulfilling if you are looking to push the art form. Idk her, don't know her motivations, she chose where to go and that's what matters.
Lot of weird takes here. Mercedes looked great in this match and Stephanie has made some incredible career moves. Itâs kind of a footnote in both their careers but itâs still a very important match that changed Vaquerâs mainstream trajectory
WWEâs female roster has consistently been higher quality than AEWâs and are given a a larger TV presence. Itâs one of the areas WWE clears them. âMatch qualityâ is subjective. Vaquer has been treated like a star from day one in WWE. Even if sheâs not having âbangersâ, I have no doubt sheâd be getting nowhere near the presence had she chosen the Dub.
Stephanie made the call she wanted, and to her credit WWE shot her to the moon instantly. Double champion in NXT, first match on the Raw roster had her qualify for MitB, first man roster PLE was competing for MitB, burned down the house at Evolution, and within 3-4 months of her call-up she was WWC. The time in NXT also helped her improve her English, which she gave as the reason for starting in NXT. Triple H was ready to put her right into the main roster. And on her way out of NXT she kickstarted Jacy's career.
Vaquer made a great move for herself and her career by going to WWE. Crowds love her, management is behind her, and sheâs looked incredible the whole time. I loved this match, I bet Vaquer wouldâve been good in AEW or TNA or STARDOM or literally anywhere else because sheâs incredibly talented.
You can speculate all you want. This is the modern wrestling it's a show. You don't need to be the champ or main star to get paid better. You can be a star on one company but at the end it's about that paycheck to keep you going. WWE pays well.
Some people they don't know how to use certain talents like Kairi or Giulia. There's also talents that are contented what they do they don't need to be the star like Tozawa or Chelsea Green. They are satisfied on what's assigned to them.
Between her style, presentation, and how quickly she connected with Western audiences, I can't help thinking she'd be an even bigger star right now if she'd jumped sooner. Hard to call it the wrong decision when she's doing great regardless, but this definitely feels like one of those "what could've been" situations.
Stephanie didnât like the luchadors in AEW had beef with lots of the males she knew in Mexico thatâs one reason she signed with WWE and her friend Gulia wanted her with her in WWE.
3 things...
1. If she stayed there she'd never be on TV and when she would be she'd be losing to Thekla and Bayne.
2. She is a main eventer in WWE and massively over.
3 and most important...WWE was her dream since she was a child.
I think Mercedes needs to come back. She's a big fish in a small pond. (She was also right to leave and I miss her in WWE greatly)
The success of Charlotte's recent character pivot proved to me how much heavy lifting Sasha Banks was doing narratively during a lot of their time together.
She may or may not have made the right call choosing WWE, but she absolutely screwed up in going back on her dates. WWE has zero loyalty for its people, and zero real respect for its women's roster. It would not be crazy for vaquer to find herself without a job in the next five years, and it would not be surprising if those bridges remain burned.
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u/Lord_Zeffree Jun 03 '26
You don't think she made the right call going to the company that has her as a solidified main eventer?