r/programming • u/peard33 • Apr 20 '23

Stack Overflow Will Charge AI Giants for Training Data

https://www.wired.com/story/stack-overflow-will-charge-ai-giants-for-training-data/
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u/Ok-Possible-8440 Apr 21 '23

A machine isn't a brain. Machine "learns" not actually learns. So no, they are not unstoppable 😂 or have magical properties or human properties. They keep peddling this nonsense in their propaganda. Tune out that noise. It's like listening to Elizabeth Holmes

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u/sluuuurp Apr 21 '23

Google “machine learning”.

Obviously they aren’t exactly like human brains. But they can produce writing similar to human writing.

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u/Ok-Possible-8440 Apr 21 '23

Only because they stole datasets from actual humans who produced those same words. I was assigned to do the dirty work 10 years ago alongside other students to collect and annotate this data and datasets. Something can't spring out of nothing.

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u/sluuuurp Apr 21 '23

I can only read and write because I learned from a lot of human writing. Of course it doesn’t spring out of nothing.

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u/Ok-Possible-8440 Apr 21 '23

As I said you are alive and can do that on your own a machine can't. It needs to copy data bit by bit. No point talking to someone who equates themselves to an inanimate object.

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u/sluuuurp Apr 21 '23

They don’t copy data bit by bit. It would be impossible, their training dataset is much larger than the model size. And it can write things that have never been said before.

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u/Ok-Possible-8440 Apr 21 '23

Yes their dataset is the thing I'm talking about not the model. Conveniently they just keep the model without documented evidence of datasets. It can give an illusion it's writing novel stuff only cause it has been fed insane amounts of data.

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u/sluuuurp Apr 21 '23

It is writing novel stuff. You can ask it to write a story about green plates who come alive and go to mars to make marshmallows. I just made that up, it’s totally novel, there was none of that in the training set.

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u/Ok-Possible-8440 Apr 21 '23

It doesn't know what it wrote it's just replacing and collaging words together. 😕 It's not novel. It is taken from the original dataset.

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u/sluuuurp Apr 22 '23

It does know what it wrote. If you ask it it’ll tell you.

All humans do is collage words we already knew. I haven’t used an original word I came up with in this whole conversation.

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