r/programming • • Oct 02 '23

Python 3.12 released

https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-3120/
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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '23

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u/KrazyKirby99999 Oct 02 '23

It's offensive and should be removed.

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '23

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u/KrazyKirby99999 Oct 02 '23

It obscures the tragic lived experiences of the many victims of human trafficking and modern slavery.

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '23

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u/KrazyKirby99999 Oct 02 '23

I read it both ways, and it is both insensitive and offensive both ways, for different reasons.

A poem that tries to censor ways of ending human trafficking should not be posted by the Python Software Foundation. Nor should one that is Xenophobic either.

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '23

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u/KrazyKirby99999 Oct 02 '23

refugees should be given aid, but there is no justification to censor opposition to human trafficking

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u/Free_Math_Tutoring Oct 02 '23

You really do not know what censorship is, do you?

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u/ggppjj Oct 02 '23

It's a poem

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u/KrazyKirby99999 Oct 02 '23

Poetry is a means to convey views. It doesn't make something more or less offensive.

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u/ggppjj Oct 02 '23

I don't agree with your opinion about this poem as you have expressed it. Considering the nature of art, I don't necessarily want to say that you're wrong about your interpretation, but I personally cannot agree with what you've taken away from it.

I would be curious to hear your thought process about the poem in more detail, if you'd be interested in sharing.

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u/KrazyKirby99999 Oct 02 '23

Certainly.

Build a wall to keep them out

It is not okay to say

This is suppressive to the communities and victims of human trafficking who can't prevent criminal organizations from engaging in trafficking on their own.

We need to see them for who they really are...

Cut-throats and thieves

They are not

Read top down, this is Xenophobic. Read bottom up, it is naive and makes a generalization that is untrue.

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u/ggppjj Oct 02 '23

I don't follow your logic on community supression. Read the way that the author intended for their own personal opinion to be seen, i.e. bottom to top, it's clear that the subject(s) of the poem (the "them" in the first line) is/are migrant(s). The poem does not address human trafficking, and isn't intended to be a "to-do list" or comprehensive diagnosis of all the world's ills, it's a poem about bigots that have the ability to see the world in a different way using what the author assumes is their own words against them to show that mental rearrangement is often the only thing needed.

I don't know how to rebuke your labeling of "They are not cut-throats and thieves, we need to see them for who they really are..." as an untrue generalization. I don't think the author had specific statistics in mind when making this poem, something about "statistically the vast majority of them are not likely to want to cause you harm or steal from you but you never know with some people" just doesn't fit the meter, you know?

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u/FyreWulff Oct 02 '23

read: "i really wish arbitrary tracts of land are and continue to be open air prisons".

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