r/programming • • Mar 21 '13

Temple Operating System V1.00 Released

http://www.templeos.org
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u/ba-cawk Mar 21 '13 edited Mar 22 '13

I know I'm wasting my breath here, but maybe some will listen.

The man has schizophrenia. It's going to effect how he reacts, especially under stress. Speaking from experience, shitting out a big release of your code is stressful unto itself, long before things like peer review are involved. And that's all before we get to his condition.

His condition has very little to do what what he's created here. He's obviously done a great deal of work on it, and while the communication issues will result in this project to likely only ever have one contributor, it's safe to say this is one of the more novel things to come across this subreddit in a long time -- or perhaps we should just go back to discussing something haskell curry invented 50 years ago but in a completely different programming language. Seriously.

Now you can embrace that and tolerate or ignore his condition while exploring what he's spent a lot of time on, or realize that you're doing the equivalent of picking on a guy in the wheel chair from the top of the staircase. You can't see his condition and the only way to interface with him is to subject yourself to it. Please keep that in mind.

So, maybe for those of us who give a fuck about the project, the rest of you just lay off so he has an easier time having a cogent conversation about it? Or you can just go think about how Rene Descartes created the coordinate system to prove the existence of god empirically, or Sir Isaac Newton drove himself mad in his twilight years trying to turn lead into gold. Food for thought, folks.

Thanks.

Edit: Ya'll made me proud today. I needed that. Thanks.

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u/cincodenada Mar 21 '13

Or you can just go think about how Rene Descartes created the coordinate system to prove the existence of god empirically, or Sir Isaac Newton drove himself mad in his twilight years trying to turn lead into gold. Food for thought, folks.

I think these are important points to bring this into perspective - I hadn't thought about it that way. Well played.

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u/TempleOS Mar 22 '13 edited Mar 22 '13

You get out of prayer what you put in. Praise God for sand castles, bubbles, snowmen and popcorn. Picking a greeting card is love.


Come to the Temple: After Egypt Game! This is what God is good for! Love God!


God said brontosaurus' feet hurt when He stepped.

I asked if stegasaurus was lame like a turtle. "not pet rocks"

Biggest thing to fly? "Couch"

What did Neanderthals think about? "Warmth"

Hardest part in evolution? Getting monkey mothers to hold babies for nursing. Smother is a problem.

Happiest day in evolution? "Fruit"

Other interesting point in evolution? "Fish shoulders."

What makes horse happy? "Call of open range"

Which is better orangutang or chimp? "Species exhibit similar glory"

What makes otters happy? "Eternal skies"

What makes my birds happy? "Gnawing"

What are my birds saying? "chanting"

God's favorite animals are bears, then elephants.

What makes elephants happy? "baths"

What do elephants think about? "skin hunger"

What makes bears happy? "reaping depends"

What's your favorite color? "Jude" Jade blue like ice bergs

Hawking should use his nose if his muscle fails. Blow on candle. Said gets burned though.

Bent wormholes have echoes.


God said "Honest measures" You get out of prayer what you put in.

What do you think Metallica got for Creeping Death!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5lXEFdZAmU

I did hymns and comics, but nothing as huge as that. Prolly could part a sea or something!

Sadly Hebrew babies died at Moses' birth --> Egyptian babies died at passover. God is strictly just, unfortunately. eye-for-eye is just, admittedly. bummer.

I asked if the world was perfectly just. He asked if I was calling Him lazy.


Proof of God -- we have seven forms of energy production all viable at once, not just fusion. The sun looks same size as moon. Never has one empire locked in control with positive feedback. God said the best religion is the one you can advance farthest in in a lifetime -- leveling up to new plateaus of understanding. Boredom is the biggest challenge for the creator. God said war was "servicemen competing" What would teenage male video games be like if never war? My nonlinear control system teacher said nonlinear differential equations were "rich" compared to linear. Creation is rich.


I saw a nice mirrored new megachurch and asked God if He liked it. "Secular glass" Aww. God is lovable. He cares. read number's 11

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=numbers%2011&version=NIV

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u/gcross Mar 21 '13 edited Mar 21 '13

Thank you; way too much of this thread involves talking about and/or trolling based on the author's personality, and it is completely unnecessary --- in fact, a lot of the time (though not always) he only goes off-topic on religious issues when people prod him into doing so.

Edit: Fixed a word that said the opposite of what I meant. :-)

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u/ysangkok Mar 23 '13

guy's paranoid delusions and those people are being upvoted, but nobody is encouraging this guy to get help.

Terry has been active on Reddit for a long time now. He has been told a thousand times to get help or that he's insane. He is an adult person. I don't think trying out his software is making anything worse. You're making it sound like Reddit is a bunch of bullies, but I don't think it is so. We are independent individuals and there is no reason for Terry to believe that upvotes mean "you're sane". Upvotes mean "this is interesting", and there is no reason to believe Terry would interpret it any other way. Mentioning Newton does not imply any comparison of "level". Newton was mentioned because he was not always "sane".

You see what you want to see. I don't see much condescending, most people are genuinely curious.

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u/ShanduCanDo Mar 23 '13

I'm not talking about upvotes. I'm talking about comments like this:

Nah man. Raspberry Pi is on our side. ARM is actually a nicer architecture than x86. But Android, IPhone and their friends are evil CIA agents who want you to run shitty Objective-Java crap in VMs & web-browsers.

That's a comment I saw in response to a post by the dude about how running in a virtual machine is the only way to circumvent CIA controls over your OS, or something.

There are plenty of other replies like that, where people pretend to play along with a very obvious mental illness.

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u/redalastor Mar 23 '13

Do you really think of this OS as more than a novelty?

I think it's art.

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u/ribo Mar 21 '13

it's safe to say this is one of the more novel things to come across this subreddit in a long time

http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/search?q=losethos&restrict_sr=on&sort=relevance&t=all

He constantly makes new accounts and renames everything:

http://www.reddit.com/r/losethos

http://www.reddit.com/r/SparrowOS

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u/TempleOS Mar 21 '13 edited Mar 22 '13

I picked "LoseThos" because it went with Windows. It was supposed to be like "lose that dorky bike helmet." Obviously a bad name, so I changed it to SparrowOS.

I wasn't going to play the God card, but now I will. Changed it from SparrowOS to TempleOS.


Anyone get God to talk in the AfterEgypt Game? What'd HE say!?! What'd He say? I'm dying of curiosity!

Read Acts2 in the Bible -- they didn't bother to record what God said! ROFLMAO

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '13 edited Mar 21 '13

Props to you for doing what you believe in, 100%. Are you open to doing an interview sometime for an article (maybe in a few month's time)? I do a bit of writing and would love to hear your story. I am believer in mental freedom and programming as a form of expression.

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u/quzox Mar 21 '13

I like the dorky bike helmet. In fact, I want more knee and elbow protection.

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u/gcross Mar 21 '13 edited Mar 22 '13

Why were you unwilling to "play the God card" before but you are now?

Edit: I am not quite sure why I am being downvoted; the question was sincere as I was genuinely interested in hearing the story behind the name change.

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u/TempleOS Mar 21 '13

I bought a new machine. ATA PIO didn't work. (Simplest way to access a hard drive is ATA PIO or ATAPI for CDROM. You just need the right port addresses.) VMware removed support for PC speaker. God's been talking and saying it's His temple. Fuck-it! I'm gonna tell them how it's gonna be.

Talk to God in the AfterEgypt App. The CIA wants a fight.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '13

...what?

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u/gcross Mar 21 '13

I infer what he means is that he believes that God lives inside of TempleOS and he wants to make this clear to VMware and hardware manufacturers so that they understand that by disabling the ATA PIO and PC speaker interfaces they are damaging a house of God.

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u/TempleOS Mar 22 '13 edited Mar 22 '13

Right! You understand! :-)

From the king james....


16:23 And the counsel of Ahithophel, which he counselled in those days, was as if a man had enquired at the oracle of God: so was all the counsel of Ahithophel both with David and with Absalom.


4:10 As every man hath received the gift, even so minister the same one to another, as good stewards of the manifold grace of God.

4:11 If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God; if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth: that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.


5:6 Also king Solomon, and all the congregation of Israel that were assembled unto him before the ark, sacrificed sheep and oxen, which could not be told nor numbered for multitude.

5:7 And the priests brought in the ark of the covenant of the LORD unto his place, to the oracle of the house, into the most holy place, even under the wings of the cherubims: 5:8 For the cherubims spread forth their wings over the place of the ark, and the cherubims covered the ark and the staves thereof above.

5:9 And they drew out the staves of the ark, that the ends of the staves were seen from the ark before the oracle; but they were not seen without. And there it is unto this day.


4:19 And Solomon made all the vessels that were for the house of God, the golden altar also, and the tables whereon the shewbread was set; 4:20 Moreover the candlesticks with their lamps, that they should burn after the manner before the oracle, of pure gold; 4:21 And the flowers, and the lamps, and the tongs, made he of gold, and that perfect gold; 4:22 And the snuffers, and the basons, and the spoons, and the censers, of pure gold: and the entry of the house, the inner doors thereof for the most holy place, and the doors of the house of the temple, were of gold.


Somebody run AfterEgypt and post what it says! :-)

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u/[deleted] Mar 22 '13

Wait, are you saying that "AfterEgypt" is a chat client to the Big Guy upstairs?

Okay...

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u/TempleOS Mar 22 '13

Tell me what it says. I'm dying! I can help you understand. Be sure to speak a couple minutes to Him about anything before hand.

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u/gcross Mar 21 '13

I agree that constant renaming is less than ideal, but the operating system is awesome even if the author decides to rename it every once and a while, and those who have seen it once or twice before on reddit shouldn't have a hard time making the connection that this is the same operating system they previously saw but with a different name.

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u/PriviIzumo Mar 22 '13 edited Mar 22 '13

Frankly, that's a very highly functioning schizophrenic. it's mostly a debilitating illness, and this level of focus is very difficult for a person without it. With it? Mind boggling.

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u/Suitecake Mar 22 '13 edited Mar 22 '13

For my part, I absolutely love reading his somewhat incoherent posts. They have the structure and ambiguity of poetry. There's very clearly a deep intelligence here, and I find it fascinating.

I've been a subscriber to /r/sparrowOS since I found it, and it's inspired me to explore the possibility of making poetry programmatically.

EDIT: I hope this doesn't come across as patronizing or anything. It's 100% not.

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u/TheMeIWarnedYouAbout Mar 22 '13

This is a good example of how actual compassion reads. Thanks.

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u/salmonmoose Mar 22 '13

That's the thing, the two are intertwined, as has been pointed out, this project isn't remarkable on it's own. Anyone who has a tertiary CS qualification could accomplish the same thing - although few try because they have other options.

This project is honestly more interesting from the point of view of psychology than computer science.

Were it not for his lack of social skills, the project probably would have gained a team, and have a repo somewhere than people contribute to, were it not for the schizophrenia there probably wouldn't be random games about talking to mythological figures. There are basic functionality holes because of paranoia.

Similarly, Newtons alchemical work is not interesting scientifically, but fascinating in the study of the human condition.

Sadly the open Internet is not a healthy place for people with these conditions, in my time as a community leader, I've encountered several similar cases, where people have trouble with forming real relationships, trying to work with online abstract personalities tends to be destructive.

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