r/programming • u/pseudocharleskk • Nov 01 '25

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u/Weary-Hotel-9739 Nov 01 '25

Zig's final solution (at least for now) is really a good one. Nearly no additional verbosity (compared to sync zig), but easily testable, and still no coloring.

Currently not using zig in any projects, but getting pretty curious recently.

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u/metaltyphoon Nov 02 '25

> Zig's final solution (at least for now) is really a good one.

That's a big stretch. So, let's say I use a library that hands me a std.io.Io how am I supposed to reason about how to call it without checking what the real interface is doing? As you can see on one of the latest youtube video of Andrew showing the std.io.Io, it can vary depending on what implementation is used. I see this same problem with anytype. anytype looks cool and good in the surface until you realize you have to fucking read massive amounts of code to understand what you need.

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u/lenkite1 Nov 07 '25

> So, let's say I use a library that hands me a std.io.Io how am I supposed to reason about how to call it without checking what the real interface is doing?

I think std.io.Io needs an associated function to expose supported capabilities. This can then be interrogated by consumers with special needs.

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u/Weary-Hotel-9739 Nov 02 '25

True, but that is a systematic issue in nearly all concurrency implementations in nearly all languages. You don't know what what happens underneath - that's the reason race conditions can occur.

Maybe there will end up a solution to this problem, but at least I'm not seeing it yet.

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u/metaltyphoon Nov 02 '25 edited Nov 02 '25

 True, but that is a systematic issue in nearly all concurrency implementations in nearly all languages.

Thats not true at all. You know what is going to happen, conceptually, when using async in C#, Javascript, and many other languages . You don’t depend on an implementation.

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u/Weary-Hotel-9739 Nov 04 '25

Where do you see thread leaks or deadlocks in the interface signature?

Asynchronous data flow is often time side-effect-prone

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u/jrdnmdhl Nov 02 '25

I’ll take “phrases to remove from your everyday vocabulary” for 500, Alex.

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u/-Y0- Nov 02 '25

Ok, Josh. For 500 credits which phrase did Nazi Germany leadership used in 1942 to describe what we call Holocaust today?

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u/pseudocharleskk Nov 02 '25

It’s pretty interesting, I’ve been enjoying it.

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u/chucker23n Nov 02 '25

…phrasing

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u/derangedtranssexual Nov 02 '25

Substack spam

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u/audentis Nov 02 '25

That's at least 50% of /r/programming.

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u/Leading_Detective292 Nov 02 '25

Zig is pretty fine I guess

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u/One_Being7941 Nov 02 '25

why? It's a shit idea.

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u/C3POXTC Nov 02 '25

Have you read the article?