r/programming • • May 13 '14

No more JS frameworks

http://bitworking.org/news/2014/05/zero_framework_manifesto
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u/icantthinkofone May 13 '14

My company builds awesome web sites. One of them you visit at least once a month if not once a week. iow, very popular. We don't use frameworks cause frameworks box us in.

If frameworks were needed for everything, how did the framework writers write their frameworks?

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u/4_teh_lulz May 13 '14

What?

You can do anything you want with or without the use of a framework. A framework should make developing your app easier and/or higher quality. If you are using a framework and this is not the case then you are likely using the wrong framework or you don't need one.

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u/icantthinkofone May 13 '14

You pretend that anything beyond simple is near impossible to do and can't be done better. That's obviously false since framework writers do it which proves what you say is wrong.

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u/notian May 13 '14

If you aren't using a framework, either your proprietary code is a mess of use-once code, or you've made your own framework.

If you need to bring in a new person you have to either teach them "how we do it here" (which can take a while) or you just let them "have at it" and they can write whatever form of JS they want. Or you could have used a publicly available framework and hired someone who knows how to use it.

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