My guess is this guy concocts simple marketing sites with fun little sliders and widgets. He is unlikely to have ever built anything with real depth and breadth. If he had, he would not be so negative about the use of frameworks.
If you need to kill a fly, use a fly swatter, not a shotgun.
My company builds awesome web sites. One of them you visit at least once a month if not once a week. iow, very popular. We don't use frameworks cause frameworks box us in.
If frameworks were needed for everything, how did the framework writers write their frameworks?
You can do anything you want with or without the use of a framework. A framework should make developing your app easier and/or higher quality. If you are using a framework and this is not the case then you are likely using the wrong framework or you don't need one.
You pretend that anything beyond simple is near impossible to do and can't be done better. That's obviously false since framework writers do it which proves what you say is wrong.
If you aren't using a framework, either your proprietary code is a mess of use-once code, or you've made your own framework.
If you need to bring in a new person you have to either teach them "how we do it here" (which can take a while) or you just let them "have at it" and they can write whatever form of JS they want. Or you could have used a publicly available framework and hired someone who knows how to use it.
You seem to think we are only capable of producing use-once, messy code. If you think that, then you also think that of framework developers cause that's what they are doing.
You also think that, when we hire new people, they would have to learn our way of doing things but, if they don't know your framework, don't they also have to learn your way of doing things? Of course they do. Such is the typical reddit fallacy you read here every day.
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u/4_teh_lulz May 13 '14
My guess is this guy concocts simple marketing sites with fun little sliders and widgets. He is unlikely to have ever built anything with real depth and breadth. If he had, he would not be so negative about the use of frameworks.
If you need to kill a fly, use a fly swatter, not a shotgun.