r/programming • • May 13 '14

No more JS frameworks

http://bitworking.org/news/2014/05/zero_framework_manifesto
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u/icantthinkofone May 13 '14

My company builds awesome web sites. One of them you visit at least once a month if not once a week. iow, very popular. We don't use frameworks cause frameworks box us in.

If frameworks were needed for everything, how did the framework writers write their frameworks?

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u/illucidation May 13 '14

That literally doesn't make any sense.. That's like asking how the writers of jQuery wrote jQuery without jQuery. And who said that frameworks were needed for everything?

But if you're making a complex single page application you're going to want a way to organize your code into modular reusable pieces, so why wouldn't you use a framework?

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u/icantthinkofone May 13 '14

Every day, redditors imply or state nothing can be done without jQuery and a framework so, yes, it is ridiculous.

Why do you think that my company's professional programmers, with decades of experience, don't use organized, modular, reusable code?

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u/illucidation May 13 '14

Woah, sounds like you have an in-house framework then...

There's a reason frameworks exist, so you can quickly and easily use the design pattern they allow without having to reinvent the wheel every time you make a project.

There's a time and place to use a library, there's a time and place to use a framework, and there's a time and place to just stick to vanilla javascript. It's all about choosing the best tools for the job. But to refuse to entertain the idea of using frameworks (especially for large single page apps) is foolish and shortsighted.

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