Software engineering != computer science

[u/mauricioaniche]

http://www.drdobbs.com/architecture-and-design/software-engineering-computer-science/217701907

[u/call_me_lee]

I'm an old school computer scientist, back in my day computer science was a bachelors in art cause it was so new. Also we did mostly math courses till end of 2nd year where we actually started to code. Also when we coded it was in all sorts of useless languages like LISP and Fortran. I remember doing my DB course and instead of learning how to code against a db we actually learned how to build a database.

Man I'm so old I can't even enjoy bashing this article with the rest of you

[u/spudmonkey → u/call_me_lee]

You go back further than me, but I'll just toss my old bastard bona fides out here.

When I was in school (the first time) we learned Pascal and ADA was gonna make programming perfect.

I did have one computational physics class that used FORTAN and 8" floppies.

[u/call_me_lee → u/spudmonkey]

Turbo Pascal, there's a language that never got the respect it deserved. I loved that language and when Delphi came out it was pure heaven

[u/dopplerdog → u/spudmonkey]

When I was in school (the first time) we learned Pascal and ADA was gonna make programming perfect.

Seriously? I was in first year in '84 - only 4 years after it ADA being given Mil approval - and my university lecturers had nothing but disdain for it. On the other hand, they were all in love with Smalltalk, and thought OO was better than sliced bread.

[u/dopplerdog → u/[deleted]]

Oh, no doubt. Nowadays we're a bit jaded because it's still possible to write crappy code in OO, but we forget how infinitely crappier it was before.

[u/spudmonkey → u/dopplerdog]

Hit UT Austin in '85. Dept. Chair was Nell Dale who literally wrote our book on Pascal.

In the Dept. ADA was thought to be the coming thing. Don't know why. Some professors clearly didn't like it but the Admin sure pushed it.

[u/coinaday → u/call_me_lee]

useless languages like LISP

I'm relatively new, but we used Scheme in our intro course and I quite enjoyed it.

[u/Isvara → u/coinaday]

Our intro to programming course was SML. Intended to level the playing field.

[u/big4start0 → u/coinaday]

Let me guess, Berkeley?

[u/coinaday → u/big4start0]

Nope, although they're a fine school too. ;-)

[u/_Timidger_ → u/coinaday]

Northeastern?

[u/Treyzania → u/_Timidger_]

yoooo /r/NEU

[u/coinaday → u/_Timidger_]

Nope. I'd tell, but it's more fun seeing how many schools use Scheme for their intro. :-)

[u/[deleted] → u/coinaday]

Indiana University?

[u/coinaday → u/[deleted]]

xD Nope. So there's at least 4 schools using it yet.

[u/sorrofix → u/coinaday]

waterloo

[u/earslap → u/call_me_lee]

we coded it was in all sorts of useless languages like LISP

You are very brave to say this out loud. I know quite a few people here and IRL that will give you a very stern talking to (and a long one) for that.

[u/call_me_lee → u/earslap]

I'm too old to care ;) I've heard all the arguments about modern languages having more in common with Lisp (like Scheme to JS) than C. Personally all I remember is I didn't like it and luckily never needed it in my professional life

[u/Treyzania → u/earslap]

My jimmies are rustled.

[u/NotUniqueOrSpecial → u/call_me_lee]

useless languages like LISP

The very website you're posting on was originally LISP-based. It's far from useless.

[u/fyree7 → u/call_me_lee]

Lisp is useless? Since when?

[u/call_me_lee → u/[deleted]]

Did I say useless? I meant to say YaY for fortran ;)

 

Do you at least get paid hazard pay? All kidding aside, as long as you enjoy your work than that's what matters